'12 COLLEGE FOOTBALL OFF-SEASON (NSD, spring practice, summer sessions)

[ThaxbyChamblis]

 

[finallyfamous]

You guys read that Pryor article?

 

[Johnny_Cakes]

^ It was pretty sad. If it's true that his moms needed the money for rent

 

[bigmike23]

FSU in the big12 makes zero sense

 

[statis22]

I'm somewhat following it. The ACC just signed a new deal with ESPN where every school is to receive around $17 million which would still be behind the SEC, B1G, PAC 12 & Big 12.

Supposedly FSU & Clemson's athletic department operates in debt (don't know how true that is) and are looking around. (again supposedly)

It's all rumors but they just won't go away.

 

[statis22]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

FSU in the big12 makes zero sense

Missouri to the SEC made so sense either yet they're in the SEC.

 

[bigmike23]

The ACC announced earlier this week that it had reworked its deal with ESPN. The new deal, which runs through 2027, is worth about $17.1 million per year per school.
The old contract brought in about $13 million per year per school. One reason for the increase is two new members, as Pittsburgh and Syracuse are coming aboard from the Big East. Another reason is that conference TV contracts are on an upward tick, with no sign of slowing down.

Five of the six major conferences have seen TV revenue increase dramatically. (Getty Images)

One aspect of the new deal is that the network will televise three Friday night games each season; Boston College and Syracuse will host at least one of those games each. In addition, the network will televise an ACC game annually on Thanksgiving.

The Big 12 also reportedly has a new deal that officially will be announced any day now; that one, with ABC/ESPN and Fox, would be worth about $200 million annually for the 10-team league. Texas' Longhorn Network is not included in that figure.

Last year, the Pac-12 signed a 12-year deal with ABC/ESPN/Fox that begins this fall. Its schools will make an average of $21 million per school annually. (The deal has an "escalator clause," meaning early payments will be less than $21 million but later payments will be more.) The Big Ten's 10-year deal with ABC/ESPN started in 2007; the Big Ten Network deal runs through 2032. Each league school brings in an average of about $20.7 million annually. The SEC has a 15-year deal with CBS/ESPN that started in 2009, and each member gets about $17.1 million per year. Expect that contract to be renegotiated soon – and go way up – in light of league expansion and other conference's deals.

The one "major" conference missing from this conversation is the Big East, which is said to be renegotiating its deal. The Big East contract is complicated because there have been eight football schools and 16 basketball schools. Big East schools that play both football and basketball have been receiving a bit more than $3 million per year, basketball-only schools about half that.

[Pat Forde: John Marinatto is the latest example of a commissioner who didn't do enough]

It's folly to expect any new Big East deal to be anything close to the ACC's. As a football conference, the Big East has no cachet, and its basketball cachet is being watered down, as well. That is one reason John Marinatto became the Big East's former commissioner Monday.

With the defections of Pitt, Syracuse and West Virginia, Marinatto tried to keep the Big East as a viable football league, bringing in Boise State, Houston, UCF, Memphis and SMU. It didn't work and he paid for it. Other than Boise, those schools don't move the needle nationally for football at all. (And while Memphis helps for basketball, UCF, Houston and SMU don't. Boise is not joining in basketball.)

Expect the Big East's TV contract numbers to go up for the simple reason that the league provides a network football (and good basketball) inventory. But if the average annual payout is more than $10 million per school for football, it will be a huge surprise

 

[bigmike23]

Originally Posted by Statis22

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

FSU in the big12 makes zero sense

Missouri to the SEC made so sense either yet they're in the SEC.

 big 12 was falling apart and you had a few difference conferences looking at missouri because of its TV market, A&M needed someone to roll with, and missouri is close to other SEC schools. it made way more sense for them then FSU does for the big12

 

[sorkoram]

Not buying TP's story. This dude was on some foolery on campus 

 

[statis22]

But the Big 12 is stable now & has a bigger payout than the ACC. At least A&M had a few ties with the SEC, Mizzou had none.

 

[scarsorscabs]

Originally Posted by Statis22

I'm somewhat following it. The ACC just signed a new deal with ESPN where every school is to receive around $17 million which would still be behind the SEC, B1G, PAC 12 & Big 12.

Supposedly FSU & Clemson's athletic department operates in debt (don't know how true that is) and are looking around. (again supposedly)

It's all rumors but they just won't go away.

Pretty sure that's not true about Clemson's AD but that they were turning a decent profit (gotta pay for Sammy's Caddy somehow).  The new TV deal will help but at least from the standpoint of the fan base, it seems they're not too happy about the focus of the ACC on basketball and power concentrated on Tobacco Rd.  If FSU were to go, it seems like Clemson would want to...who knows whether that'll happen.  

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by Sorkoram

Not buying TP's story. This dude was on some foolery on campus 

people were telling me last year they were seeing him pushing different whips around campus every month... i'm just saying.  "friends" were giving him cars but not $3,000 for his mom?

 

[gunna get it]

why and where would they get the opportunity to get his mom money?

Its easy to paperwork a Car or no show job out to someone who's accessible.

Not so easy to Launder money and give away cash to someone Miles away, especially if they dont have their hand out

 

[sorkoram]

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Sorkoram

Not buying TP's story. This dude was on some foolery on campus 

people were telling me last year they were seeing him pushing different whips around campus every month... i'm just saying.  "friends" were giving him cars but not $3,000 for his mom?

Son was walking around campus in every name brand you could think of. 

 Mind you, I ran track so I had access too, but he took it to an entire new level. Everything was suppose to be kept hush hush, but with Pryor....not one __ was given.

His mom may have been struggling, but dude was not sending all of it home, guaranteed 

 

[gunna get it]

#MemphisDreamTeam

 

[trelvis tha thrilla]

Originally Posted by Bigmike23

FSU in the big12 makes zero sense

Missouri in the SEC makes no sense. Boise and SMU in the Big East makes no sense. If realignment was about common sense, the landscape would be much different.

Apparently the new ACC TV deal is worth around $17 million per school and that includes tier 3 rights for football, nothing else. The Big 12 contract is worth around $20 million and that doesnt include tier 3, so FSU and Clemson could make more money off the TV contract plus make more off their own 3rd tier rights.

Clemson and FSU could be in a division with WVU and whoever else. They are football first schools and want to be in a football first conference. Does it make sense geographically? Probably not. But everything else makes sense.


http://texas.rivals.com/c...363940&PT=4&PR=2

The Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN Wednesday announced a new media rights package that will elevate the per school payout for television and digital revenue tied to football and basketball to roughly $17 million, up from the roughly $13 million per school previously.
The contract includes football-only third tier rights revenue. And that's where the future of Florida State in the ACC and whether it would ever seriously consider jumping to the Big 12 could take on a life of its own.

The Seminoles are in one of the few states - with a population of 19 million - in which a university could turn its third-tier rights into the school's own television network the way Texas has done in the Lone Star State (population 25.6 million).
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[/td][/tr][tr][td]Florida State athletic director Randy Spetman has said that he may have to cut back his department's budget.[/td][/tr][/table]TOO GOOD TO PASS UP?: One industry source said if Texas can command $300 million over 20 years - $15 million per year in additional TV revenue - for its own network, Florida State should be able to command at least a third that much ($5 million), if not more, in a state with so many television sets and a passion for FSU sports.
So before everyone dismisses Florida State ever taking a serious look at jumping from the ACC into the Big 12, consider that.

 

[tmay407]

I see we're still relying on Chip Brown for realignment info...it's amazing how this guy has managed to turn himself into the "realignment expert."

 

[az5950]

Originally Posted by Sorkoram

Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by Sorkoram

Not buying TP's story. This dude was on some foolery on campus 

people were telling me last year they were seeing him pushing different whips around campus every month... i'm just saying.  "friends" were giving him cars but not $3,000 for his mom?

Son was walking around campus in every name brand you could think of. 

 Mind you, I ran track so I had access too, but he took it to an entire new level. Everything was suppose to be kept hush hush, but with Pryor....not one __ was given.

His mom may have been struggling, but dude was not sending all of it home, guaranteed 

lol, I can imagine, someone needs to find the clip of him leaving the team meeting in the 350 z

 

[scott frost]

Earlier today, Luther Campbell dropped a bomb on Drew Rosenhaus, alleging the North Miami-based NFL super agent paid Tommy Streeter -- one of five Miami Hurricanes football players who left school early to enter the draft -- $50,000 to sign with him. The Miami New Times columnist was a guest on the 560 WQAM show hosted by ex-Cane and NFL Hall of Famer Michael Irvin when he made the comments.

Streeter, along with other UM underclassmen who signed with Rosenhaus, ended up getting drafted lower than most draft analysts had predicted and lost out on millions of dollars in guaranteed money. Although Streeter was picked up by the Baltimore Ravens, a team that was one win away from the Super Bowl last year and needed a third wide receiver.
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Agents are prohibited from providing or offering money to prospective players or their family members and friends as an enticement to getting hired as their representative, according to the NFL Players Association's rules and regulations. However, agents routinely advance their new clients money prior to the draft, which they recoup after the players sign a contract with the teams that selects them.

Irvin called Campbell so he could elaborate on his column earlier this week in which Uncle Luke claimed that Lamar Miller, one of the former Canes who was drafted by the Miami Dolphins, had bought himself and his parents luxury cars before knowing how much money he was going to get from his first NFL contract.

Campbell told Irvin that Streeter bought a Porsche and that Rosenhaus gave the ex-Miami Northwestern High standout wide receiver a stack of cash. Earlier this year, Campbell wrote a column criticizing Rosenhaus for making a ton of money off African-American athletes from Miami. Campbell informed Irvin that he knows about Streeter's alleged signing bonus because Rosenhaus confirmed it to his wife Kristen, a Miami sports and entertainment attorney who was helping former Florida International University standout T.Y. Hilton choose an agent.

She is also a registered sports agent, but Hilton ended up picking Rosenhaus -- who according to Campbell did not want his wife to co-represent the star athlete. On the air, Campbell said:

She assisted T.Y. Hilton on deciding who his agent was going to be. She helped the family interview 20 agents. In that process, they all came in and did their presentation. Drew came and did his presentation. She asked him about promising Tommy Streeter he was going to be in the first round. He said yeah, [Tommy] is going to be a first round pick. Then she was asked what's this $50,000? [Drew said]:Yeah, I'm going to give T.Y. Hilton as well.
Campbell also claimed that Rosenhaus described the $50,000 as "a signing advance for your marketing."

When we reached Rosenhaus, he declined comment. "As a matter of policy I don't discuss agreements with my clients," Rosenhaus said.




http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/05/luther_campbell_alleges_drew_r.php

 

[scarsorscabs]

Declares early and gets $50k advance...buys Porsche. Drafted in the 6th or 7th round...lives in Porsche.

Swag.

 

[az5950]

This is where having too many yes men in your camp messes things up...Streeter was nowhere near a 1st rd lock, and neither was Lamar Miller although both were and are exceptional athletes.

 

[scarsorscabs]

FSU BOT Chair blasts ACC, opens door for Big 12

Until now, everyone officially associated with Florida State has publicly supported the recently announced television deal between the Atlantic Coast Conference and ESPN/ABC.

That is no longer the case.

In an exclusive interview with Warchant.com, Florida State Board of Trustees Chairman Andy Haggard blasted the agreement that will net each ACC school approximately $17 million per year through 2026-27.

While the new deal will result in an increase of nearly $4 million per school from the old contract, some of the terms have resulted in harsh criticism from Florida State fans and alumni. It has also drawn the ire of FSU's Board of Trustees' Chair.
"It's mind-boggling and shocking," said Haggard. "How can the ACC give up third tier rights for football but keep them for basketball?"

Haggard is referring to the fact that the ACC surrendered all third tier television rights for football to ESPN/ABC but kept them for men's basketball. That arrangement will likely result in substantial revenue for schools with a strong basketball following like North Carolina and Duke.On the other hand, it will do very little for schools with a more traditional football following like FSU, Clemson, Virginia Tech and Miami.

"It continues the perception that the ACC favors the North Carolina schools," noted Haggard.

Haggard added that he has received numerous emails from FSU fans and alumni since the deal was announced and estimates that about 95 percent are unhappy with the ACC's deal and how it will impact Florida State.

This overwhelming criticism over the ACC's handling of the new TV deal and FSU's recently announced financial shortcomings (projected $2.4 million deficit for 2012-13) have only added fuel to rumors of a potential move to the Big 12.

Haggard confirmed that as far as he knows there has been no contact between FSU and the Big 12 regarding possible expansion. However, he makes it very clear that he and the Board of Trustees would be more than open to exploring the possibility if it would mean additional revenue to the school.

"How do you not look into that option," asked Haggard. "On behalf of the Board of Trustees I can say that unanimously we would be in favor of seeing what the Big 12 might have to offer. We have to do what is in Florida State's best interest."

It has been reported that the new Big 12 television deal with ESPN/ABC will be result in each school receiving approximately $20 million per year. Were FSU and fellow ACC member Clemson to join the Big 12 that figure would go even higher. The SEC's new TV deal with Texas A&M and Missouri joining the conference is expected to be worth well over $20 million annually per school.

"With the SEC making the kind of money it does it's time to act," said Haggard. "You can't sit back and be content in the ACC. This is a different time financially. This isn't 10-15 years ago when money was rolling in."

Of the few who still support FSU staying in the ACC, most cite the number of well-regarded academic institutions within the conference. However, Haggard scoffed at the idea that the ACC somehow helps FSU's academic reputation.

"No FSU graduate puts on his resume or interviews for a job saying they are in the same conference as Duke and Virginia," he said. "Conference affiliation really has no impact on academics."

Haggard concluded that he will be speaking with FSU president Eric Barron and Athletic Director Randy Spetman about the best way to proceed in exploring options outside of the ACC.

 

[ThaxbyChamblis]

Wow I hope he didn't really promise those dudes they'd be 1st rounders

 

[nako xl]

Originally Posted by Scott Frost

Earlier today, Luther Campbell dropped a bomb on Drew Rosenhaus, alleging the North Miami-based NFL super agent paid Tommy Streeter -- one of five Miami Hurricanes football players who left school early to enter the draft -- $50,000 to sign with him. The Miami New Times columnist was a guest on the 560 WQAM show hosted by ex-Cane and NFL Hall of Famer Michael Irvin when he made the comments.

Streeter, along with other UM underclassmen who signed with Rosenhaus, ended up getting drafted lower than most draft analysts had predicted and lost out on millions of dollars in guaranteed money. Although Streeter was picked up by the Baltimore Ravens, a team that was one win away from the Super Bowl last year and needed a third wide receiver.
http://
Agents are prohibited from providing or offering money to prospective players or their family members and friends as an enticement to getting hired as their representative, according to the NFL Players Association's rules and regulations. However, agents routinely advance their new clients money prior to the draft, which they recoup after the players sign a contract with the teams that selects them.

Irvin called Campbell so he could elaborate on his column earlier this week in which Uncle Luke claimed that Lamar Miller, one of the former Canes who was drafted by the Miami Dolphins, had bought himself and his parents luxury cars before knowing how much money he was going to get from his first NFL contract.

Campbell told Irvin that Streeter bought a Porsche and that Rosenhaus gave the ex-Miami Northwestern High standout wide receiver a stack of cash. Earlier this year, Campbell wrote a column criticizing Rosenhaus for making a ton of money off African-American athletes from Miami. Campbell informed Irvin that he knows about Streeter's alleged signing bonus because Rosenhaus confirmed it to his wife Kristen, a Miami sports and entertainment attorney who was helping former Florida International University standout T.Y. Hilton choose an agent.

She is also a registered sports agent, but Hilton ended up picking Rosenhaus -- who according to Campbell did not want his wife to co-represent the star athlete. On the air, Campbell said:

She assisted T.Y. Hilton on deciding who his agent was going to be. She helped the family interview 20 agents. In that process, they all came in and did their presentation. Drew came and did his presentation. She asked him about promising Tommy Streeter he was going to be in the first round. He said yeah, [Tommy] is going to be a first round pick. Then she was asked what's this $50,000? [Drew said]:Yeah, I'm going to give T.Y. Hilton as well.

Campbell also claimed that Rosenhaus described the $50,000 as "a signing advance for your marketing."

When we reached Rosenhaus, he declined comment. "As a matter of policy I don't discuss agreements with my clients," Rosenhaus said.




http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2012/05/luther_campbell_alleges_drew_r.php

Luke's wife is a lawyer and openly broadcasting conversations she had during the course of her client's representation?  is she an idiot?

 

[CP1708]

^
Good point.  Entirely too much damn talkin goin on by all the parties involved.  Shut the hell up.  Lawyers, agents, and whatever Uncle Luke is, in house %+$#+!%*!!!%$.  Look it up.