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being a guard in the West is definitely not the way to make the All-Star game.
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Originally Posted by DiPlOmAt TDOt
Now the question is who would you pick as your RESERVES
Wait, I'm sorry, "hype"?
yes, hype. the hype that point guards are the greatest thing since sliced bread. the hype that lets people believe that jason kidd should have 2mvps. the hype that allowed steve nash to win 2 mvps. you know exactly what hype i'm referring to- you have a jason kidd screen name and you are a big fanof chris paul.
people act like allen iverson fell off or something. like he's still not the answer.
That's just simply untrue.
tell me why it is untrue. i told you why i feel the way that i do, you should do the same. or maybe you're being sarcastic. it's hard totell over the internet.
roy and paul are not having better seasons than allen iverson.
OKAY
Not to mention AI isn't even a true PG.he's noteven a point guard.
West don't need any more scorers. They need a good passer. And no AI isn't a good passer. I'd take Nash, Paul, Roy > him any day.
23ska909red02 wrote:
I'm going to leave this one as the thread for the All Star rosters.
indohan- when the reserves are announced, please edit your original post and add them, too.
I'll lock other All Star roster threads as I see them (like that one about Iverson beating T-Mac).
Yes, sir.
Originally Posted by FrenchBlue23
Guard: Kobe Bryant, (L.A. Lakers),Allen Iverson (Denver)Chris Paul (NO) or Brandon Roy (POR)
Wait, I'm sorry, "hype"?Originally Posted by Kiddin Like Jason
i refuse to buy into all this point guard hype.
roy and paul are not having better seasons than allen iverson.
That's just simply untrue.
^^ Please elaborate, in what aspect of the game are they having better seasons?? Paul averages more assist, b/c that's his job on that team...
Paul averages more assist, b/c that's his job on that team...
Iverson averages more points because that's his job on his team... What's your point? I think it's pretty hard to argue inIverson's favor that he's having a bigger impact on his team than Paul is having on his, but that's just my opinion...
Iverson averages more points because that's his job on his team... What's your point? I think it's pretty hard to argue in Iverson's favor that he's having a bigger impact on his team than Paul is having on his, but that's just my opinion...Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
Paul averages more assist, b/c that's his job on that team...
1st off all Iverson does much more than score on Denver
And all Chris Paul does is distribute? Oh, right. He's not leading the Hornets in scoring or leading the league in steals...Are you seriously saying you think that Paul could average as many points as AI?
Show me where I said that. Could Allen Iverson be the floor general/distributor Paul is if that were his sole focus? No, because that's nothow Allen Iverson is wired. AI is a scorer and killer, Chris Paul is a floor general and distributor.Take AI off of Denver they're not sniffing a playoff spot in the west...
That doesn't work both ways? Suffice to say Allen Iverson's supporting cast is miles ahead of Paul's. The Hornets are built aroundChris Paul with a bunch of second round talent (David West) and cast-offs from other teams.Brandon Roy is having a fine season and it would be nice if he made the all-star team but his numbers aren't really even comparable to AI's.
I never argued they were.2nd Paul is having a fine season and deserves to be an all-star but the only categories where he's beating AI statistically is in assists, where again, that's what he does and freethrow shooting (which who care 88 to 81).
To be fair, let's at least be accurate... In about 5 fewer minutes per game, Paul is better in the following categorites: Assists, Steals,FG%, 3PT%, FT%, REB, fewer TO's ... And he's doing so at a higher efficiency rating according to most every source...y'all acting like AI was an absurd choice. Bottom line is dude is probably one of the best you dudes have ever seen and it's sad that y'all don't recognize it,
Did I once say Iverson was poor choice? No. Did I say he wasn't one of the best to ever lace em up? No. Does that have any bearing on whetheror not I feel Paul is having a bigger impact on his team THIS YEAR? No, it doesn't.stop buying into the hype and actually watch some of these players before you make ignorant statements...
Coming from someone who implied that Chris Paul's only focus on the floor is as a distributor, that Allen Iverson holds more responsibility onthe floor for Denver than Paul did for the Hornets, and failed to bring up several categories in which Paul had an edge over Iverson... Well,
And all Chris Paul does is distribute? Oh, right. He's not leading the Hornets in scoring or leading the league in steals...Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
1st off all Iverson does much more than score on Denver
Are you seriously saying you think that Paul could average as many points as AI?
Show me where I said that. Could Allen Iverson be the floor general/distributor Paul is if that were his sole focus? No, because that's not how Allen Iverson is wired. AI is a scorer and killer, Chris Paul is a floor general and distributor.Take AI off of Denver they're not sniffing a playoff spot in the west...
That doesn't work both ways? Suffice to say Allen Iverson's supporting cast is miles ahead of Paul's. The Hornets are built around Chris Paul with a bunch of second round talent (David West) and cast-offs from other teams.Brandon Roy is having a fine season and it would be nice if he made the all-star team but his numbers aren't really even comparable to AI's.
I never argued they were.2nd Paul is having a fine season and deserves to be an all-star but the only categories where he's beating AI statistically is in assists, where again, that's what he does and freethrow shooting (which who care 88 to 81).
To be fair, let's at least be accurate... In about 5 fewer minutes per game, Paul is better in the following categorites: Assists, Steals, FG%, 3PT%, FT%, REB, fewer TO's ... And he's doing so at a higher efficiency rating according to most every source...y'all acting like AI was an absurd choice. Bottom line is dude is probably one of the best you dudes have ever seen and it's sad that y'all don't recognize it,
Did I once say Iverson was poor choice? No. Did I say he wasn't one of the best to ever lace em up? No. Does that have any bearing on whether or not I feel Paul is having a bigger impact on his team THIS YEAR? No, it doesn't.stop buying into the hype and actually watch some of these players before you make ignorant statements...
Coming from someone who implied that Chris Paul's only focus on the floor is as a distributor, that Allen Iverson holds more responsibility on the floor for Denver than Paul did for the Hornets, and failed to bring up several categories in which Paul had an edge over Iverson... Well,
Reading is fundamental, and this is why some should spend less time on Niketalk and more understanding simple concepts such as reading comprehension.
I said "considerably" ahead. I wouldn't consider .5 tenths in steals, 1.4% in 3pt shooting, 1 rb, or 3 percent in FG% when they're bothover 45% considerable. If we want to be minute AI averages .2 more blocks per game...and yes AI plays 4.4 more minutes per game, so Paul is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay moreeffecient since there's such a gap in minutes played.
You're going to use a million excuses of what you didn't say to try and defend yourinferences and implications. So I won't even waste my or anyone else's time rebuting the rest of the nonesense you quoted. All I will say is Iclearly gave credit to Paul for being a fine player and at no point did I say that he wasn't asked to do more than distribute all I saidwas he NEEDS to distribute for them to win.
So you can @#%%% and moan about who you think should be starting but the fact of the matter is AI has the spot. Period.
I said "considerably" ahead.
Really? Did you?2nd Paul is having a fine season and deserves to be an all-star but the only categories where he's beating AI statistically is in assists, where again, that's what he does and freethrow shooting (which who care 88 to 81).
Upon further review... Failure.You're going to use a million excuses of what you didn't say to try and defend your inferences and implications
No I'm not. You implied what you implied. You made the blanket assumption that Chris Paul averaged more assists because that was his job.When I used the same ******ed logic for Iverson, it was 'Well, Iverson does more than score!' Implying that Chris Paul didn't...So you can @#%%% and moan about who you think should be starting but the fact of the matter is AI has the spot. Period.
I'm *****ing and moaning? I wasn't the one calling others ignorant for their opinions or pulling out the RIF card when it wasn'tnecessary... I thought I was stating an opinion... Maybe I'm wrong.
And again, did I say Allen Iverson was a poor choice? No, I didn't. I never said I thought Chris Paul deserved the spot more, either. All I said originallywas that it's tough to argue Allen Iverson is having a bigger impact on his team this year than Chris Paul is having on his. You're the one that wentoff on some serious tangent, and you've yet to dispute the initial comment with any type of logic...
Originally Posted by Nowitness41Dirk
My man actually went back and edited his post... Originally, you ain't say ANYTHING about considerably. And you still haven't disputed the original comment from back before you went into your little hissy-fit...