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Who will Lebron James play for next year?

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Originally Posted by hallywoodxo  

To put this whole thing in perspective. Say you were playing pick up ball with someone who was extremely talented. Y'all are close to winning a game and come up short a few times to the same team. That extremely talented guy says you know what I'm just gonna hop on the team that keeps beating us. I can't imagine how any one would respect that.

That doesn't take away from the the guy being extremely talented. It's also his god given will to go and play with whom ever he desires, but the respect factor certainly takes a hit.


That's not exactly what happened with lebron but you get the picture. He's one of the greatest of all time undoubtedly but it should be understandable why some people have no respect for him.

But in a pick up game you could choose who you played with...and wouldnt be forced and obligated to play with a bunch of guys. You also could if you saw wasnt any good comp at this gym leave and play somewhere else. 

In all the pick up ive played i wasnt ever forced to play with certain individuals... without my knowledge or say so in the matter. Its not like you go to a park some random dude grabs you say hey you are obligated and forced to play with the worst guys i can find... And he in returns goes and get the best guys he can find out there......And if you cant beat them and the best players out in the park with yourself and the worse players.... then you just flat out suck and no good. 
 
Why lock the thread when u can just not enter to begin with ?

There are still lulz to be had its not that serious.
 
The main knocks on Lebron will always be, he had to "join" another superstar and allstar to win a chip. His horrible 2011 finals performance (still can't believe that). I just think he needs to win more on the biggest stage, as of now, he's only 10-13 in the finals!!! At least get to .500

You are the 1st person I ever seen say that 10-13 nonsense lml. He's 2-4 in the finals. What's so hard about saying it that way?
 
It's literally 10 pages of LeBron vs Kobe vs Jordan debates
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everyone says they hate it, but i think it's hilarious 
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You are the 1st person I ever seen say that 10-13 nonsense lml. He's 2-4 in the finals. What's so hard about saying it that way?
thats that deep research... term paper hate..... whats next dudes gonna credit/discredit dudes by wins/losses in individual playoff games as oppose to full series.... 

Cats out here using analytics to hate.... 
 
Romo
Peyton
Rose
ARod
Tiger

There are plenty of guys who blasted in social media...Bron cant act like he has it any worse than those guys

Some of those guys get way more flack for national media than Bron does

Not sure if serious.

Peyton is beloved by everyone even in his shortcomings

Rose & Romo get jokes but not to the extent of LeBron who is actually out here winning championships and MVP trophies

Nobody even watches baseball

Tiger has been forgiven like 3 years ago.

Which one of these athletes mother's are slandered on the daily?

But let's get it straight you're comparing him to an post-season under achieving QB.

Someone who keeps getting hurt

Someone who CHEATED on the sport & someone who cheated on his wife

But the guy who is the staple of the league with no criminal record & only off the court flaw is making a decision and televising it for charity is group with those dudes?

How Sway?
 
Not sure if serious.

Peyton is beloved by everyone even in his shortcomings

Rose & Romo get jokes but not to the extent of LeBron who is actually out here winning championships and MVP trophies

Nobody even watches baseball

Tiger has been forgiven like 3 years ago.

Which one of these athletes mother's are slandered on the daily?

But let's get it straight you're comparing him to an post-season under achieving QB.

Someone who keeps getting hurt

Someone who CHEATED on the sport & someone who cheated on his wife

But the guy who is the staple of the league with no criminal record & only off the court flaw is making a decision and televising it for charity is group with those dudes?

How Sway?
cause its simple.... ppl are simply lemmings... sheeps if you will... they follow feel/think whatever media/social media has told them/tell them.

from a stats/figure standpoint... ppl are further/smarter then ever before.... from a logic/reasoning/thinking for oneself etc.... this current latest gen might be the stupidest is recent history....

Guy discriminates practices racial discrimination.... um no biggie.... Guy gets recorded using racial undertones.... ppl are outraged 

Dude claims to be a christian pk kid...and love the kids.... goes out has kids in multi states doesnt take care of them.... and runs around chasing strippers/pornstars= Hes called superman.

Guy makes a decision...a legal decision about his work environment and where he would like the spend his career...... dude is a fraud/classless/has no heart... lol
 
Reasons why Lebron doesnt get all the respect:

1. The Decision- Not for the fact that he left to play with two All stars but rather for the whole spectacle of the announcing his decision with a prime time ESPN special etc
2. Having the another big spectacle with Wade and Bosh when they got to Miami as if they had already won the chip talking about not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6....
3. Him and Wade cracking jokes on Dirk about him being sick but yet he turns up GHOST in the finals
4. The constant flopping as if he is acting in a daytime soap opera. He is the best player in the game right now he should be better than that
5. Telling fans they still have to wake up to their miserable lives
 
Reasons why Lebron doesnt get all the respect:

1. The Decision- Not for the fact that he left to play with two All stars but rather for the whole spectacle of the announcing his decision with a prime time ESPN special etc
2. Having the another big spectacle with Wade and Bosh when they got to Miami as if they had already won the chip talking about not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6....
3. Him and Wade cracking jokes on Dirk about him being sick but yet he turns up GHOST in the finals
4. The constant flopping as if he is acting in a daytime soap opera. He is the best player in the game right now he should be better than that
5. Telling fans they still have to wake up to their miserable lives

The Dr. has spoken NT. *claps*
 
lol shaq and big z were serviceable big men to draw fouls... and collect garbage rebounds... and put up buckets here and there.... They were more of like john salley of the bulls.... bill wennington 

LMAO ain't that what Odom was during those few years. He ended up turning it up tho but not during his early Laker years.

Simple solution: lock thread between game days.


everyone says they hate it, but i think it's hilarious :rollin

EXACTLY. ****** act like they don't enjoy this.

It's like the Draya thread for men.
 
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Romo
Peyton
Rose
ARod
Tiger

There are plenty of guys who blasted in social media...Bron cant act like he has it any worse than those guys

Some of those guys get way more flack for national media than Bron does

Not sure if serious.

Peyton is beloved by everyone even in his shortcomings

Rose & Romo get jokes but not to the extent of LeBron who is actually out here winning championships and MVP trophies

Nobody even watches baseball

Tiger has been forgiven like 3 years ago.

Which one of these athletes mother's are slandered on the daily?

But let's get it straight you're comparing him to an post-season under achieving QB.

Someone who keeps getting hurt

Someone who CHEATED on the sport & someone who cheated on his wife

But the guy who is the staple of the league with no criminal record & only off the court flaw is making a decision and televising it for charity is group with those dudes?

How Sway?

Nobody watches baseball, ok.

ARod has been getting shots to the head since Texas days before steroid allegations. Thats never been new for him

Romo plays in the most popular sport, one of the popular teams out of any sport and he's a walking punching bag...during the NBA playoffs...you want to talk about an easy target?

D.Rose gets hurt, so?...that makes it more legit to be picked on more than Lebron because of Bron's clean sheet? There's rules to tbis **** now?

Bron isnt the first to go through this and he wont be the last so nobody wants to hear that **** as if he's got it so bad compared to others.
 
Gonna need more from Wade.

4 points in the 2nd half and lackadaisical 4th quarter defense won't cut it from the 2nd best player on a team with title aspirations.

Either score more or play D, preferably both. He did neither for the whole 2nd half, particularly after Bron exited the game.

Mia was winning when he came out the first time, he left, SAS almost instantaneously took the lead back.

He came back, immediately scored to cut it to a one possession game, came out again and SAS immediately went on a run.

Wade and Bosh were on the floor during all of this
 
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[quote name="rck3sactown"][quote name="FinallyFamous"][quote name="rck3sactown"]We should make an inconspicuously named NBA thread for the regulars, like CP's movie thread :lol[/quote]I like the idea.

I mean don't these guys get sick and tired talking about this? :lol[/quote]I'll PM CP and ask him for a good thread tittle :lol[/quote] "S&T Movie Thread"
 
LOL at nobody watches baseball.

AROD was always getting killed. I dont think he was ever loved like Bron was in Cleveland.
 
Just from the last few pages I've seen people say that the media and race are the reasons people don't like lebron

Maybe some people just want to root against him? why is that so hard to understand? Why is it so wrong?

I see many people root against Tom Brady but they aren't questioned and told they are bad people. But oh no don't talk about bron. You must appreciate and bathe in his greatness.

If anything the media is begging and pleading with you to like him. ive never seen people demand that you root for someone like this before. It's nuts.
 
Reasons why Lebron doesnt get all the respect:

1. The Decision- Not for the fact that he left to play with two All stars but rather for the whole spectacle of the announcing his decision with a prime time ESPN special etc
2. Having the another big spectacle with Wade and Bosh when they got to Miami as if they had already won the chip talking about not 1 not 2 not 3 not 4 not 5 not 6....
3. Him and Wade cracking jokes on Dirk about him being sick but yet he turns up GHOST in the finals
4. The constant flopping as if he is acting in a daytime soap opera. He is the best player in the game right now he should be better than that
5. Telling fans they still have to wake up to their miserable lives

I think there's more to it too, just on a general casual perception level.

When he was on the Cavs, he had goofy dudes around him like Varejao. And he had a special handshake for everyone down to the 15th man and the ballboy before games. You just had the general feel about his aura before games and on the court that dude was all-inclusive and a super nice guy and just a big kid and when he won, everyone won with him. Beyond just playing well, that's what really separated him from the pack and made him a public icon. His personality.

He was America's player, playing on America's team, being THE guy who put the Cavs on the map, who we could all win through.

Then he went to Miami, where from afar, there really ain't a single really likeable character on that squad. Haslem? Joel Anthony? Mike Bibby? No, just no. :lol And suddenly like a movie, dude's got the villain beard and he's wearing all black, and he's acting too cool with D-Wade, and...you couldn't script a better heel turn. You couldn't have Hollywood people write and direct every interview and little pre-game, off-court antic to turn people off more. Remember when every other day they'd say something that'd piss people off? Not just the "Not 1, Not 2..." but just everything. I remember LeBron saying something like...maybe we're just bad at talking to the press.

Suddenly, he went from having the most open, fun-loving style of play, to just this kinda bad boy, militaristic "**** you" brand of basketball. And no one liked the people he was playing with. There was no love for the franchise. Wade and Bron didn't figure out how to play together yet. They just looked so annoyed and over everyone. Probably from all the pressure and OD criticism they were getting, but still. To a casual fan, it's like a good guy turned bad and could care less about the fans. And to the basketball heads, it was sacrilege every time they took the court. You don't wanna beat each other?

And then the whole hate train turned self-fulfilling between all 29 taking took turns booing/roasting the life outta that squad that first year, and it really feeling like Heat fans were non-existent or just minimum knowledge hype-hoppers.

When a team wins, you wanna win with them. Even if it's not your team. And that Heat team was just too cool and exclusive to let other people in.

And worse, they took away America's team. I don't think any team's really been as widely loved as that '09 Cavs squad since The Decision.
 
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