2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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But the question is would guys like Davis and Boogie have really developed so much more in college had they dealed with 6'8 centers, inferior refereeing and guards that couldn't throw entry passes as opposed to what the NBA has to offer?
 
But the question is would guys like Davis and Boogie have really developed so much more in college had they dealed with 6'8 centers, inferior refereeing and guards that couldn't throw entry passes as opposed to what the NBA has to offer?
exactly. a year learning the ropes in the NBA > another year to develop in College against competition that is nothing compared to what they will face in the NBA
 
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How many 17-18 year old Hs seniors do you really think is gonna say to themselves "I'm not ready"?
Players used to be able to come to the NBA out of high school and it worked, not every high school player went straight to the NBA....
And not every HS player succeeded, having that option reopened or go to college for 3 years, what will the majority of 18 year olds pick
 
It's about making the NBA product better. Imagine how good Davis, Durant, Wall, Cousins, etc. would be their rookie years if they stayed one extra year?

Why are we assuming that they would've been significantly better going against lesser competition? A guy like Durant averaged 26 a night in his freshman year. He was not going to get significantly better going against that level of competition because he was not being challenged sufficiently. Who in the college ball was gonna D him up like Artest/Iggy/etc? Same with Davis & Cousins.

And then you have dudes who stay all 4 years & still need an adjustment period when they get to the league. Then you have 4 year dudes who never get it.

Iron sharpen iron. Practicing against better competition will always benefit you more than dominating lesser competition.

Should we have guys dominate lesser HS competition for another year too so that they can be "more prepared" for college ball? C'mon b.
 
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And not every HS player succeeded, having that option reopened or go to college for 3 years, what will the majority of 18 year olds pick
Of course they would WANT to go straight to the NBA. But i think it is pretty well known what players are actually good enough and would actually be drafted, which would be very few, the rest would know they have to pick college
 
Just go back to how it used to be.

if a player wants to enter outta HS he should be able to.

If a team wants to risk it then they should be able to.

Just dumb.
 
Just go back to how it used to be.

if a player wants to enter outta HS he should be able to.

If a team wants to risk it then they should be able to.

Just dumb.
Yes. Especially now that teams can utilize the D-League to get young players some experience without throwing them out on the floor
 
Just go back to how it used to be.

if a player wants to enter outta HS he should be able to.

If a team wants to risk it then they should be able to.

Just dumb.
Basically.

The assumption that a HS kid can make the right choice is idealizing youth in general :lol
 
Pretty much they are just trying to milk a couple more seasons out of these talented kids before they have to start paying them the big bucks 
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Just go back to how it used to be.

if a player wants to enter outta HS he should be able to.

If a team wants to risk it then they should be able to.

Just dumb.
This.

I do agree the NBDL would be a great alternative if they could get rid of the "D-League" stigma and have a combined salary cap with their NBA franchises so dudes could actually get paid
 
Why is the D league so frowned upon?

Bennett and Porter were two of the top three picks and both of them should've been sent down.

Isnt that what its for? development?
 
Yea thats what i thought. I think it would be a little extreme if each team have their own. They would have to pretty much double the amount of teams 
 
Wait there aren't 30 d league teams?

That's some of the dumbest **** I've heard.
nah there is only 17. it would cost way too much money for them to add 13 teams. plus i doubt the d-league makes them much money, and considering not that many players get d-league call ups, i think the D-League is giving plenty of players opportunities, no need to add another 170+ players to fill up 13 more teams
 
Well IMO, the notion that one can be better prepared for the NBA by staying in college longer is silly and futile. No matter how long you stay in college, the NBA is obviously going to be an adjustment for any rook, from the freshman to the senior who stayed all four years.

So for me, I feel that if a player wants to declare for the draft out of high school, so be it. It should go back to the old days. Making it mandatory for them to stay multiple years in college is unfair to me. You are already making millions off of these players, don't extend the years that they have to participate in this crude form of athletic slavery.
 
Durant would definitely develop more in the NBA. I'm not doubting that. But wouldn't he be better on day 1 after one more year of college? I don't think that's debatable. He would put on more muscle, gain experience, work on his weaknesses. Day 1 of the NBA he would be stronger and better - he still may struggle initially but he would be far better off.

I think a lot of people underrate how much players develop in the NBA (playing against the best, learning NBA schemes, getting on an NBA weight lifting plan, etc.) but I'm not one of those people. I just think superstar freshman would come in and be much better from day one if tey stayed another year after dominating CBB.

This solution does suck for the players so id only be okay with this if they bumped up the rookie scale by a decent amount. Rookie contracts are such a bargain.
 
Well IMO, the notion that one can be better prepared for the NBA by staying in college longer is silly and futile. No matter how long you stay in college, the NBA is obviously going to be an adjustment for any rook, from the freshman to the senior who stayed all four years.

So for me, I feel that if a player wants to declare for the draft out of high school, so be it. It should go back to the old days. Making it mandatory for them to stay multiple years in college is unfair to me. You are already making millions off of these players, don't extend the years that they have to participate in this crude form of athletic slavery.

A player can improve his game and knowledge of the game by spending years in college. That alone will make them better prepared for the NBA. High school players should be allowed to go pro but the NBA as a form of entertainment has the right to say we don't want you. No one is forcing these kids to go to college. They all have the option to go pro overseas.
 
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