2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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Antidope said:
Jeremy Lin and Omir Asik are due 15 million apiece. I remember when these deals happened and people were split down the middle on them based of the potential for those guys to be worth that crazy money (moreso Asik than Lin) but now neither are worth it, and those contracts are untradeable as far as I'm concerned. At least its only for a year though.
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72 mil on the payroll next season means they have very limited options in free agents

then the year after that they have to figure out if they want to pay bev and parsons
 
Antidope said:
Jeremy Lin and Omir Asik are due 15 million apiece. I remember when these deals happened and people were split down the middle on them based of the potential for those guys to be worth that crazy money (moreso Asik than Lin) but now neither are worth it, and those contracts are untradeable as far as I'm concerned. At least its only for a year though.
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Bigger deal imo is them trading Dragic.

The more I watch this Rockets team the less I think Carmelo makes any sense.  What they need is added toughness and coaching.  They don't necessarily need another high-volume scorer, and they definitely can't abide another defensive liability/questionable leader.
 
^Im sure plenty of teams would love Asik. Lin, not so much, unless Landry Fields can get him to Toronto.
 
speaking of melo

harden takes a million shots and people blame mchale and his offense

kd/westbrook take a million iso shots and people blame brooks

melo takes a million iso shots and hes a unchangeable ballhog that will never win?
 
sea manup said:
speaking of melo

harden takes a million shots and people blame mchale and his offense

kd/westbrook take a million iso shots and people blame brooks

melo takes a million iso shots and hes a unchangeable ballhog that will never win?
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It's because he's in NY. Nobody was saying that when he was in DEN.
 
sea manup said:
speaking of melo

harden takes a million shots and people blame mchale and his offense

kd/westbrook take a million iso shots and people blame brooks

melo takes a million iso shots and hes a unchangeable ballhog that will never win?
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Don't even try this. The people who say this are the same people who say Melo is out of shape, doesn't show effort on defense, and doesn't pass.
 
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speaking of melo

harden takes a million shots and people blame mchale and his offense

kd/westbrook take a million iso shots and people blame brooks

melo takes a million iso shots and hes a unchangeable ballhog that will never win?
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You're definitely obscuring the facts there.

-For me, KD clearly gets his shots in the flow of the offense which makes him not comparable to Melo in that way (plus he simply scores more while being more efficient).  Durant shot 50% with 30ppg this year!!  Melo could only dream of hitting either of those numbers.

-Westbrook gets criticized constantly.

-Harden is starting to get criticized constantly.  He is a better playmaker/less of a ball stopper than Carmelo, but he deserves huge criticism for his playoff performances.  He is out of shape and just straight up choking so far.  Plus his ugly flopping playstyle, but that's a separate issue.  And his leadership qualities seem to be about Melo-level.

Also Melo really will never win 
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Harden has taken 103 shots in 4 games lol. Son has only made 35. 33% shooting with all them attempts is crazy. Alot of his misses lead to fast break points for the oppossing team. And his lack of hustle to get back on d is comical at times.
 
VICTOR PAGE said:
Idk if I'm late or not but did anyone see Bonzi Wells' Jailblazer stories?

I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.

I lost it when I read Zach Randolph tossed a 5 pound weight at Jeff McInnis but it hit Dudley instead.
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Didn't someone say that was confirmed fake?
 
worldbeefreeg said:
VICTOR PAGE said:
Idk if I'm late or not but did anyone see Bonzi Wells' Jailblazer stories?


I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.


I lost it when I read Zach Randolph tossed a 5 pound weight at Jeff McInnis but it hit Dudley instead.
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Link?
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“It was madness. I’ve never seen anything like it. You think some of these guys had off the court issues? It was ten times worse inside the locker room. Some of these guys made Incognito look like Gandhi.”

These are just some of the words in the 550-page independent report released by former Portland Trail Blazers guard Bonzi Wells on the culture inside the Trail Blazers locker room. Wells played for the Trail Blazers from 2000 to 2003, the pinnacle of the time period in which the Trail Blazers were coined the “Jail Blazers” due to countless legal incidents off the court involving multiple players. The Leaveit2Divac investigative team has acquired the document and scoured the contents to provide the most shocking and disturbing incidents revealed by Wells. Here are some of the excerpts that got our attention:

“Two words: Ruben Patterson. It was 2001, my second year with the team, when he was brought on. Everyone knew about his past; he was a registered sex offender for the attempted rape of his kid’s nanny. These guys wouldn’t let him forget it. The worst was Shawn Kemp. At least two or three times a week, Shawn would bring in a briefcase full of pictures of his kids’ nannies. I’m talking hundreds of pictures of nannies, each one of them different and extremely graphic. Shawn was even in some of them. He would just dump them in front of Ruben’s locker and usually say something like, “I would’ve run train over your nanny.” He even snuck out of practice once when Coach Cheeks wasn’t paying attention to fill Ruben’s locker with nanny pictures. Thousands of nanny pictures came pouring out. I had just assumed Shawn went to take one of his customary coke breaks, but this almost sent Ruben over the edge. At this point, Shawn became legitimately concerned for his safety. He even sought out extra security personnel for himself and all of his kids that he knew of.”



Ruben Patterson

However, this wasn’t even the worst that Ruben got:

“One time Damon [Stoudamire] caught Ruben jerking it to a Victoria’s Secret catalogue. The guys wouldn’t let him live that down. He was Lubin’ Ruben after that. Rasheed [Wallace] and Zach Randolph were relentless. Those two made his life hell, calling him Lubin’ Ruben every chance they got. Ruben once told me he was contemplating “taking them out in front of everyone in the locker room,” but I talked him out of it. I told him he would probably miss and hit Steve Kerr.”

Ruben got the worst of it, but he wasn’t the only one:

“Darius Miles. Where do I even start with him? He got it pretty bad too. There were multiple times that Rasheed would run into the locker room completely naked, point to his genitals, say “Look, the second biggest bust in the room!,” and then look directly at Darius. Zach and Derek Anderson thought this was the funniest thing. He once even did it on the court when Coach Cheeks wasn’t looking. Come to think of it there were a lot of instances in which Coach Cheeks wasn’t looking. He was oblivious. Try imagining having Stevie Wonder as a basketball coach. That was what it was like.”



However, these incidents pale in comparison to this one:

“For the most part, the veterans weren’t subjected to this type of stuff. Pippen, Kerr, Arvydas Sabonis, Dale Davis; these guys were respected. Maybe Rasheed would call Arvydas “Saboners” every once in a while, but it wasn’t anything he couldn’t handle. However, the worst incident I can remember involved a respected vet. In 2002, some of us were in the gym before practice when Zach and Jeff McInnis got into a shouting match over hookers or something. This type of stuff happened like every other day so most of us just ignored it. Zach just lost it and fired a 5 lb. plate at Jeff. He missed way high and hit veteran center Chris Dudley in the back of the head. He had no idea what hit him. Zach actually felt pretty bad about it; Rasheed thought it was hysterical. Duds was out cold and we had no idea what to do. Antonio [Daniels], Arvydas, and Ruben Boumtje-Boumtje carried him to a massage table and laid him face down so anyone who saw him would just think he was waiting to get a massage. I had about 20 or 25 extra headbands in my locker so I just started wrapping those around Chris’ head to try to stop the bleeding. He woke up about 30 minutes later wondering what happened and why he was wearing 15 headbands. We just blamed it on Lubin’ Ruben. Duds was a real team player and didn’t want this to be a distraction so he just let it go.”
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:rollin at that Blazers story. If I was Dudley, I would've got Zbo or somebody to at least pay me a lump sum of money for taking that dumbbell to the head :lol

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I didn't know it was fake. lol
 
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100027 said:
VICTOR PAGE said:
Idk if I'm late or not but did anyone see Bonzi Wells' Jailblazer stories?


I haven't laughed this hard in a long time.


I lost it when I read Zach Randolph tossed a 5 pound weight at Jeff McInnis but it hit Dudley instead.
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Didn't someone say that was confirmed fake?
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Some of those players weren't even on the Blazers at the same time, plus just click any other story on leaveit2divac.com It's the Sports version of the Onion

http://leaveit2divac.com/clippers-a...off-blockbuster-deal-amid-racist-allegations/
 
100027 said:
Agree with who?

At least they did something.
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What they did was stupid though. The "at least" argument sucks. They could of took off the clippers logo off their jerseys or something. Something that actually took some thinking or effort if they really cared as much as they say. Laying their warm up shirts on center court? LOL. I wonder who's bright idea that was
 
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BLASTERCOMBO said:
What they did was stupid though. The "at least" argument sucks. They could of took off the clippers logo off their jerseys or something. Something that actually took some thinking or effort if they really cared as much as they say. Out ting their warm up shirts on center court? LOL. I wonder who's bright idea that was
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Jamal Crawford & Matt Barnes
 
BLASTERCOMBO said:
What they did was stupid though. The "at least" argument sucks. They could of took off the clippers logo off their jerseys or something. Something that actually took some thinking or effort if they really cared as much as they say. Out ting their warm up shirts on center court? LOL. I wonder who's bright idea that was
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Yeah I basically agree with you.  Very curious to see what the home game reaction is.  Hopefully the fans can make a stronger statement.
 
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