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Melo is just one of those players who won't win a chip in his career. Just face it. Nothing can save it.
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people thought the same about kevin garnett
put melo on a team where he is the second or third option and he has a great chance of winning a title
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Naw lol. The team is building around Conley and Marc. The only way they trade Marc is if they get high pick in this year's draft. Now, I'm sure they would trade ZBo for Pau's expiring.
Speaking of Marc, he seems to be playing like his brother this season. He came into camp out of shape, his body language seems bad at times and he's not being aggressive. I think some of it has to do with him playing euroball all summer and getting married. I also think part of it is the coaching change and getting use to a faster pace.
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Stop it.
Melo isn't a MVP in this league and never will be a MVP. Don't compare the 2. One plays defense and has all around game. Top 5 in his prime. Stop it. Defensive player of the year. 20+ 10+ in MIN. All NBA first team. Makes his teammates better. Doesn't jack up shots.
Stop it.
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if the grizz have a first late rounder and a trash player that expires at the end of the year that matches pau's salary yes please
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Paul Pierce is the best comparrison. Really similar career arcs, and similar play styles and criticisms at some points in their careers.
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the best teammate KG had before he came to boston was Wally SippinOnSizzurpiack. Cassell too.
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correct
then whats wrong with rose?
TF are you talking about now
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The difference between them is that KG never really wanted to be "The Man" in the first place. One of his biggest knocks in his heyday was that he deferred when the big lights came on.
Melo is the exact opposite.
Only time I can see Melo willingly accepting a secondary role is when he's in his 30s and his skills start diminishing.
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Spre had a great year then too. Dont forget that. Troy hudson used to ball. Trenton hassell was a stopper. When KG had talent, he made it out the first round. You put the right pieces around a great player, then they most likely will deliver.
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hey im just stating facts
maybe if you followed kevin garnett before he came to boston you could recognize that and stop letting the hate feel your head.
all around a prime KG was better but they both had the label of not being able to win a chip.
once kevin garnett came to boston the pressure of being the main man was gone thus creating the ego maniac who picks on white players known as present day KG
stick melo with two other stars that fit his game and he has every chance to win a title.
@ top 5 in his primeyou on one
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Yes. But Pierce never really jacked up shots like Melo. But good comparsion as I mentioned before. Melo needs to play the role Pierce played in BOS when KG and Ray arrived. If Melo can play Pierce's role, with some pieces around him, I dont see why he can't compete for a championship. He needs a PG that will control the game and get the team involved.
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That **** boils my blood manVP posted this in the Knicks thread:
I never even thought about that.
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Yeah Pierce is a good comparison. He really changed his attitude and style to become better, don't know if Melo will do that . Right now he's old Pierce.
at comparing Melo and KG, you must be insane
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well that means melo has to adjust his game plan and thinking.
chris bosh once said he wanted to be the man on his own team and got smart in the end and just joined wade and bron
and no, losing makes you change your thought process real quick
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comparing them based on being superstars all alone on their teams and not their game. big difference
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hey im just stating facts
maybe if you followed kevin garnett before he came to boston you could recognize that and stop letting the hate feel your head.
all around a prime KG was better but they both had the label of not being able to win a chip.
once kevin garnett came to boston the pressure of being the main man was gone thus creating the ego maniac who picks on white players known as present day KG
stick melo with two other stars that fit his game and he has every chance to win a title.
you on one
I live in MLPS though. been watching KG since day 1. Never heard of KG being labeled one of the players that will never win a chip. he never had any "real" pieces. But when he had some he led them to the WCF. Winning MVp that year as well. MELO will never win MVP. KG never had that label. Just stop. it was more of MINN than KG.
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well that means melo has to adjust his game plan and thinking.
chris bosh once said he wanted to be the man on his own team and got smart in the end and just joined wade and bron
and no, losing makes you change your thought process real quick
If you live in NY like I do, without the Knicks fan goggles, and you watch and read Melo in interviews and such, it becomes pretty clear that dude just doesn't have the mental capacity or interest to look at his game critically or change his approach.
Most recently he was out there saying he isn't being aggressive enough and is trying TOO HARD to get other players involved, and needs to get back to his game
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Yeah Pierce is a good comparison. He really changed his attitude and style to become better, don't know if Melo will do that . Right now he's old Pierce.
Or...it was just the simple fact that he had 2 other HoF'ers around him and an emerging star pg
?I wouldn't put much stock in his changing of attitude and style. I mean, If one has that much talent around him, of course he isn't going to be the same player as he was prior to them arriving
I can hear it now. If Melo ends up on a competent team with an actual supporting cast people will be talking about how "he's changed his game and attitude"
all about the talent around you. That's it.
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i wish this wasn't trueIf you live in NY like I do, without the Knicks fan goggles, and you watch and read Melo in interviews and such, it becomes pretty clear that dude just doesn't have the mental capacity or interest to look at his game critically or change his approach.
Most recently he was out there saying he isn't being aggressive enough and is trying TOO HARD to get other players involved, and needs to get back to his game
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Yeah Pierce is a good comparison. He really changed his attitude and style to become better, don't know if Melo will do that . Right now he's old Pierce.
dude is trippin with the KG and Melo comparsions.
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The Pelicans signed Niketalk's own Josh Childress.
Such a weird roster.
Such a weird roster.
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If you live in NY like I do, without the Knicks fan goggles, and you watch and read Melo in interviews and such, it becomes pretty clear that dude just doesn't have the mental capacity or interest to look at his game critically or change his approach.
Most recently he was out there saying he isn't being aggressive enough and is trying TOO HARD to get other players involved, and needs to get back to his game
i have always compared melo to glen rice but with weaker 3point skill. and like the old school miami heat and charlotte hornets fans have witnessed you cannot win jack **** with him as the main guy
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Why is Paul Pierce a good comparison to Melo? Has Pierce ever had a problem deferring? ****, dude managed to co-exist w/ Antonie Walker
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