2013 College Football Thread (Realer than Real Deal Holyfield -->S/O Craftsy)

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Dre, what do you like better about Yearby? You're not the first person who I've seen say that. I'm cool with Yearby and Sony, because we're not getting Cook now.

Cook is Faster

Yearby is quicker, better feet, excellent vision & balance, better in the open field & in one on one in space, & can make ppl miss in the hole/in close quarters.

Maybe there is film on cook that I've missed or haven't seen that'll render all of that moot. JY is a really good inside runner
 
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LOS ANGELES -- USC coach Lane Kiffin told ESPNLosAngeles.com on Wednesday that he thinks there is a "huge under-appreciation" by Trojans fans for how quarterback Matt Barkley played in his four seasons at the school.

He also predicted big things for Barkley in the NFL despite the QB's recent slide in some mock drafts.

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If Matt Barkley had the defense that Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer had, Matt Barkley would have won the Heisman Trophy just like they did. He would have had the winning records they had.
” -- Lane Kiffin
Barkley surprised many in December 2011 by electing to return for his senior season. Then, he was widely viewed as a top-10 prospect, but he has fallen out of the first round on most mock draft boards. Neither of ESPN's draft experts, Mel Kiper Jr. or Todd McShay, projects Barkley to go in the first round.

Barkley will throw for scouts late next month at USC's pro day.

"I think he's going to be a great starting quarterback in the NFL, and the film shows it," Kiffin said. "The plays he makes, all the throws he's made here, the leadership qualities ... I've said this before: If Matt Barkley had the defense that Matt Leinart and Carson Palmer had, Matt Barkley would have won the Heisman Trophy just like they did. He would have had the winning records they had."

Barkley's stock likely was hurt by USC's disappointing 7-6 season after a preseason No. 1 ranking, by his 15 interceptions (up from seven in 2011) and by the shoulder injury that ended his season two games early.

Barkley took some heat from USC fans as the Trojans' offense regressed slightly from a 10-2 season in 2011. The Trojans gained an average of 12 yards fewer per game and scored roughly a field goal less per game. It was largely defensive breakdowns that caused USC's downfall. The architect of the Trojans' defense, Monte Kiffin, resigned after the season and now is defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys. USC hired former Cal defensive coordinator Clancy Pendergast to install a 5-2 scheme it hopes will be more effective against spread offenses.

Kiffin traces the beginnings of the public's changed perception of Barkley to a 56-48 overtime loss to Stanford and quarterback Andrew Luck in 2011.

"Andrew threw an interception for a touchdown and, their very next drive we stop them, and [safety] T.J. McDonald gets called for a head-to-head personal foul that keeps the drive alive," Kiffin said. "Is that Matt Barkley's fault? If that flag's not thrown and we stop them right there, you go, 'Man, Matt just beat Andrew Luck.' When I remember Matt, I think of all that stuff."

Kiffin also stressed roster limits caused by NCAA sanctions that limited USC's array of targets and the depth on its offensive line during Barkley's tenure.

"There have been great USC quarterbacks [who have done] some things in the NFL," Barkley told reporters last week at the NFL scouting combine. "I know my case, my situation and my story is different than all those other guys. I don't think you can put everyone in the same mold. I know what I'm capable of, and I wouldn't be so quick to put a mold around me."
The man's got a point.  But he doesn't glides over the fact that this year Barkley never looked off Marqise Lee...
 
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How does Kiffin's defense feel hearin the coach throw them under the bus for the QB who ain't even a part of the team now?
 
How does Kiffin's defense feel hearin the coach throw them under the bus for the QB who ain't even a part of the team now?

Defense knows they blew **** the past three years, swizz cheese. That was last years defense with players that are not part of the team now.

Barkley was injured since the Stanford game. Monte fell on the sword, facts are facts, defense has been garbage the past three years.

Saying Barkley didn't have the defense Palmer and Leinart is a fact, those D's under Pete were top notch.
 
Markeith Ambles hardly getting any looks out of JC? Guess teams see him as too risky academically and just in general? 
 
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And then there were two men standing.

EA Sports announced yesterday that the cover vote for NCAA Football 14 had officially been trimmed down to two players, Michigan's Denard Robinson and Texas A&M's Ryan Swope. Robinson always appeared to be one of the favorites for the cover despite his lack of production under center, but A&M's Swope is proving that the underdog still has plenty of bite.

The casual college football fan will be forgiven if you are still left wondering just exactly who Swope is. After all, he is hardly a household name. Swope is currently ranked 22nd overall among wide receivers by National Football Post with a draft grade suggesting a potential fourth-round draft pick selection. Our friends over at Optimum Scouting tend to feel similarly. Swope had a solid season for the Aggies but his 913 receiving yards and eight touchdowns easily gets lost in the shuffle (eighth in the SEC in receiving yards), especially when Johnny Manziel was busy setting the football world on fire and offensive tackle Luke Joeckel was being heralded as a worthy number one overall pick.

But here he is, looking to represent Texas A&M on the cover of the NCAA Football franchise for the first time in school history. ESPN's sports media reporter Darren Rovell suggested he wanted to see if Swope appearing on the cover of the game would yield any difference in copies of the game sold.
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Hoping NCAA Football game has Ryan Swope on the cover. Would be a good experiment on if bad cover athlete hurts sales.
The answer, of course, is no. Sure, there may be a few more copies sold in and around College Station, Texas but I would take an educated guess that the nationwide sales of the game would not take any more of a hit for having Swope on the cover as it would for having any other player.

Like the Madden NFL franchise, albeit on a slightly smaller scale, the NCAA Football franchise has reached a point where the same product can receive a few tweaks and graphic enhancements form year to year and be sold to the same audience. The fans who purchase the NCAA Football title are not going to refrain from buying the game based on who is on the cover. They will buy it to play against their friends, classmates and others around the world through the wonders of network gaming. It does not matter to these people if Denard Robinson or Ryan Swope or Kenjon Barner or Lee Corso is on the cover.

Last year NCAA Football 13 featured Baylor's Heisman Trophy winning quarterback Robert Griffin III on the cover. We all know RG3 has become a clear superstar after one year in the NFL. His rise to fame brought attention to Baylor, of all football programs, in a season once again dominated by the SEC. But sales were relatively sluggish with RG3 on the cover. I would suggest this is because to the NCAA Football audience there was not enough reason to pick up the newest version of the game after shelling out money for NCAA Football 12 (oh, and NCAA Football 13 did not even have all of the teams). But was it because Griffin III came from Baylor, a program that has always been in the shadows of larger programs in their own conference, no matter the conference?

Does Rovell have a point? The anecdotal evidence, last season aside, may back his argument.

Last summer gaming website Pasta Padre took a look at the sales numbers of the franchise. NCAA Football 11 had opening sales eight percent higher than NCAA Football 10. NCAA Football 10 had a different cover athlete depending on the port but NCAA Football 11 had Tim Tebow on the cover. Featuring Tebow on the cover was a no brainer it seemed, and perhaps sales were boosted by his appearance slightly. NCAA Football 12 featured Alabama's Mark Ingram on the cover, and once again opening sales for the game skyrocketed, jumping to 15 percent higher than the NCAA Football 11 sales figures. Did having Heisman Trophy winners from Florida and Alabama help boost the sales? If so, what was NCAA Football 13's excuse, with not one but two Heisman winners?

Then there is my own empirical data.

I have been a long time supporter of the NCAA Football franchise. I do not buy the game every season as some might. Instead I may pick up a copy or two during a particular console's lifespan. I have a copy of NCAA Football 2004 for the GameCube (don't laugh) within an arm's reach from my desk and my Road to Glory in NCAA Football 12 has resulted in quarterback play the Texas Longhorns could only dream of having the last couple of seasons. Over the years I have purchased seven different versions of the game, and not one time did I take in to consideration the cover athlete appearing on the cover.

When it comes to video games there is a certain level of marketing needed to produce a strong consumer base. Any EarthBound fan may be able to tell you that. EA Sports has been fortunate to be able to build up a loyal consumer base as well as branch out to the more casual football fans. Their brand commands a certain level of consumer respect, regardless of how you feel about their business practices. But when it comes to sports games in particular, gamers need a reason to hand over $60 for a game year after year. Road to Glory was a terrific adaption of a sound philosophy. The Heisman Challenge failed to take things to the next level. What NCAA Football 14 offers or does not offer will have much more to say about the value of the game to consumers than the cover.

Will you buy or not buy NCAA Football 14 based on who the cover athlete is.
Ryan Swope??
 
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What's the story 8o

Edit: seems like someone was reaching on twitter about les having an affair w/ a student
 
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