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Boston can keep all those picks not many people want to play in Boston. 
2014-15 Official Lakers Season Thread, Vol: We Love Each Other
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They're doing it the only and right way. Along with ORL, PHI, MIL, etc. We must follow the model. Those teams will be contenders sometime in the next 15 years, surely.
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If Boston doesn't trade for love what exactly are they going to do with all those protected picks and late first rounders/second round picks?
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15 years though....lakers organization has averaged a finals appearance 15 of the last 30 years ( i think )
as long as the lakers are bringing in the 100 mil or so in profits, the team will spend to acquire talent.
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I was being sarcastic. I think it's quite comical to view it that way, sure if we had multiple picks in multiple drafts, we could try and hit the longest of long shots in duplicating what OKC did, still that is about as realistic as hitting the powerball. We have a possible top 5 pick in a far weaker draft than this year that we have to be worse than the worst season in franchise history to even keep and that's some type of plan? And even if that happens, a marquee free agent is supposed to find that situation attractive after 2 straight terrible seasons and maybe a mediocre season and still not being able to offer him the most money/attractive situation? I mean c'mon who's being realistic here.
You truly, honestly, don't get it, do you? Like, you're not even joking anymore, you honestly aren't sure what to do are you?
You think burning money on Melo and such is the way to go, or bullying our way around like the old days, but you really missin where the league is at these days, aren't you?
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I'd sure hate to see what happens to the shudda, wudda, cudda fans in this thread if the front office shakes things up and the team succeeds 
Every single day the same ol yap
They wanna be boston, they wanna be San Antonio like sheesh man
Every single day the same ol yap
They wanna be boston, they wanna be San Antonio like sheesh man
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- May 17, 2007
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Umm, you guys do know Boston got KG and Ray Allen because they had those draft pick & assets to trade right?
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- Mar 24, 2001
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Seriously . Boston has been completely irrelevant for most of 3 decades. It's like people can't grasp that la is not a small market like San Antonio
. Boston has been completely irrelevant for most of 3 decades. It's like people can't grasp that la is not a small market like San Antonio
- Mar 24, 2001
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Umm, you guys do know Boston got KG and Ray Allen because they had those draft pick & assets to trade right?
Mchale-Ainge relationship surely helped
- Jan 18, 2006
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What Boston is doing is nice. But its not 100%.
Yes we should rebuild.
But you got Time Warner Cable paying 200 Mil A year...do you think they want to see us rebuilding?
The situation is what it is. I truly believe you will get your wish and Melo won't come.
- May 17, 2007
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Exactly. Which is why the Lakers WON'T TANK this year. Of course it's the most logical thing to do, but it simply is NOT REALISTIC.
They're rebuilding thru free agency, except it, it won't change unless Kobe gets a season ending injury in the next 4 months.
- May 9, 2005
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Umm, you guys do know Boston got KG and Ray Allen because they had those draft pick & assets to trade right?
Yes, exactly.The Celtics right now aren't nice because they are acquiring a bunch of draft picks they can sit on for 15 years.
They're nice because those things put them in a much better position to make big moves than any other team.
They might not, they might have to sit on their picks and wait and have nothing turn out. But they at least have a higher chance of pulling something off.
Not saying the Lakers should tank to keep Top 5 to match, but... yeah.
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You guys just flat out, bottom line, unequivocally, don’t want assets. No matter what, you don’t want them.
You didn’t want to enhance our 2014 pick.
You don’t want to buy up/trade for extra picks.
You don’t want to save our 2015 pick.
You don’t want to save cap space.
You’re in here mocking a franchise that has multiple picks for the next 5 years, a solid young coach, a 28 year old Rondo and the #6 pick this past draft, which we didn’t care to fight for, and still has cap flexibility going forward. And you scoff at that.
You just want to throw money out the windows at any and every free agent there is, that still won’t get us a title.
Just put butts in seats. The 2014 LA Lakers. We fill seats.
Hey Miami Heat, you guys suck, you don’t fill seats til the 3rd quarter, we don’t care about your 4 straight Finals appearances, we sell out every game we play (and lose)!!!!!!!
We fill seats. And we overpay past their prime vets. And we have maybe 1 more pick in the next 3-4 years depending on how things shake out.
Ainge is doin it wrong, but Mitch is on the grind.
I can’t believe this is the same fanbase.
You didn’t want to enhance our 2014 pick.
You don’t want to buy up/trade for extra picks.
You don’t want to save our 2015 pick.
You don’t want to save cap space.
You’re in here mocking a franchise that has multiple picks for the next 5 years, a solid young coach, a 28 year old Rondo and the #6 pick this past draft, which we didn’t care to fight for, and still has cap flexibility going forward. And you scoff at that.
You just want to throw money out the windows at any and every free agent there is, that still won’t get us a title.
Just put butts in seats. The 2014 LA Lakers. We fill seats.
Hey Miami Heat, you guys suck, you don’t fill seats til the 3rd quarter, we don’t care about your 4 straight Finals appearances, we sell out every game we play (and lose)!!!!!!!
We fill seats. And we overpay past their prime vets. And we have maybe 1 more pick in the next 3-4 years depending on how things shake out.
Ainge is doin it wrong, but Mitch is on the grind.
I can’t believe this is the same fanbase.
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Umm, you guys do know Boston got KG and Ray Allen because they had those draft pick & assets to trade right?
By that rationale, we would be wanting to acquire all these picks (Randle and whoever we get next pick) so we can trade them right? However, that doesn't seem to be the consensus, we have people adamant over keeping Randle when his name comes up in trade scenarios. So looking back at that Celtics trade, they traded for Garnett who was 31 at the time as well as Ray Allen who was also 31 at the time.
Yet Melo at 30 is to old?
Yet a lot of people vehemently were against trading our pick for Kevin Love who is 25.
What are we saving for? You can't have it both ways. You want to save picks and assets to trade them, but you don't want to sign players because they may be too old.
I'm a bit confused.
What we are doing is by passing the whole trade our assets for good players, and straight up trying to sign players.
It may be a short sighted way of doing things, but it has been the way we've operated for years.
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It's because Randle is the only pick/asset the Lakers have.
In a situation like Boston, they can package a few of them to net a good player or star and still keep a couple as role players.
The Old Celtics had an abundance of assets to get TWO big names, and still have a couple left over to be role players. One of them that they held onto even turned into a star.
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but they had an established "star" already on the roster in PPUmm, you guys do know Boston got KG and Ray Allen because they had those draft pick & assets to trade right?
not to mention a player friendly coach in Doc
- Jan 18, 2006
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CP,
You have to understand not everybody is going to look at things the way you do.
Its so easy for you to say the things you say becuase you don't have anybody to report to.
Some fans want melo, some don't.
You made your case as to why we should rebuild.
We got it.
It's not up to us. It's up to mitch and Jim. You and I both know what's more important to them.
They are going to do what they can to put something around Kobe if they can. Deep down they know they messed up by giving him that terrible contract.
We will see....
You have to understand not everybody is going to look at things the way you do.
Its so easy for you to say the things you say becuase you don't have anybody to report to.
Some fans want melo, some don't.
You made your case as to why we should rebuild.
We got it.
It's not up to us. It's up to mitch and Jim. You and I both know what's more important to them.
They are going to do what they can to put something around Kobe if they can. Deep down they know they messed up by giving him that terrible contract.
We will see....
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I still don't understand why The Lakers aren't trying to sign Gordon Hayward. The kid can play. he only 24.
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When do you ever see the Lakers having an assortment of young talent as assets stockpiled up? We aren't getting our pick next year, and by 2016 Kobe will be off the books and we'll have a ton of money.
The only way the Celtics method works is if we go into this stockpiling assets and picks way of work for several of years, and I cannot emphasize enough that looking at how the Los Angeles Lakers work, that won't happen.
Lakers sucked and drafted Bynum, he was our young asset, we traded Shaq for Lamar Odom and Brian Cook. We traded Kwame Brown for Pau, stockpiling picks and picking up young assets was never a way they did things, and they aren't going to do that now ESPECIALLY in the twilight of Kobe's career.
I UNDERSTAND what the pro tank people are asking of and what they want, and it is reasonable in way. However, IT IS UNREALISTIC for this franchise to do so.
The stockpiling assets and draft picks is great in theory, however it isn't going to work for the Lakers because they aren't a team like the Celtics who can withstand decades of failure, JUST SO they can trade all there picks and get their one championship.
I'm not trying to be one sided or another, I actually understand where you are coming from, i'm just being realistic, and it is unrealistic to believe that the Lakers would spend several years tanking just so they can trade all their assets, or develop them, when they know they can for the most part outright sign them.
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The Celtics are absolutely running a clinic on how to rebuild quick.
Traded their coach
Their aging stars
Buying up assets
And still have Rondo to flip for even more assets.
We have jack ******* ****.
And Celtic fans are happy as **** right now. While we beg Carmelo to take all our money.
Sounds like Theo Epstein. HAHAHAHA
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Where is the league at these days, CP? Truly? Everybody is taking less than the max, yet guys are getting crazy deals and GMs are throwing around cash like it's monopoly money.
We have ONE year to gather all these potential assets to make a push to get someone in here next year, and if we miss on 2015, then what. Say we hit on your top 5 deal for next season, we lose the subsequent 2016 or 2017 because it's only top 3 protected to PHX. And subsequently 2017 top 5 to ORL.
All these teams, BOS and whoever you and others are lauding, have multiple years of sucking (ORL, PHI), 4-5 years of multiple picks, or guys already in the fold with them that they've had to overpay to retain (see Bradley). We have maybe a 2 year window to put enough assets (with maybe one draft pick and cap space) together to make something look attractive to KD who may not even leave OKC. That doesn't sound a little bit different than some of these other situations.
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I'm not saying the Lakers ever stockpiled picks, or expect them to now. I don't expect them to, either.Just saying why it's a good strategy, why it worked for the Celtics before, and why it puts them in a better position than us now.
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You've got to build a credible supporting cast and have some assets in your backpocket to attract stars these days.
Unless you're the ******* Lakers and have one max cap slot and TWC up your ***.
Unless you're the ******* Lakers and have one max cap slot and TWC up your ***.
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