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All valid points but the reason why I can't put him in my all time top ten is this
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How you win 67 games, the MVP, and allowed that to happen. He's great no doubt but needs help equal or greater than his talent to win 'chips.
Where in my post did I say he was a Top 10 guy? He's top 20, right ahead of Malone and Barkley, and you can argue KG.