2016 MLB thread. THE CUBS HAVE BROKEN THE CURSE! Chicago Cubs are your 2016 World Series champions

[freddie black]

McCarthy is by far the funniest guy in the bigs on Twitter. 

His post surgery/injury tweets >

thles pani pills are'nt havin any eff=ect at al;/ claer th*inking is me and motoor sskils is very greats
— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) April 30, 2015

Does autocorrect have a brain injury edition? Jesus this ****'s impossible
— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) September 10, 2012

@Buster_ESPN he is also frequently peeing into a bucket located next to his bed
— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) September 10, 2012

Bad news: doc says I might be one of those people who posts motivational nonsense all day on Facebook now
— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) September 11, 2012

WELL IF BEING DISCHARGED FROM THE HOSPITAL ISNT THE BEST TIME TO ASK ABOUT A THREESOME THEN IM FRESH OUT OF IDEAS
— Brandon McCarthy (@BMcCarthy32) September 11, 2012

 

[essential1]

So ironic the Yankees need a 2B

Still think they should have just made the offer close.. No not 10 years, and no not $240mil. But 7 years / $200mil makes Cano at least reconsider. Probably still leaves anyway. But we stuck at 7 / $175mil and wouldn't budge. Can't fault him for leaving, we should have just gone halfway between what we offered, and what Mariners offered, and then see.

Beltran wouldn't be here if Cano stays, and we likely make the playoffs last year, and would be favorites this year for the Division.

Like bdb said. Yanks are a #2 starter and a another bat away from contention. Don't know where their gonna get either from though

The bat is almost irrelevant. But it feels like they do need a righty hitter instead of Drew.. Way too many lefty hitters even for Yankee stadium.

If Tanaka wasn't injured, I'd just suggest they expand it to a 6 man rotation when Nova gets back, and take some strain off Tanaka, Pineda & CC.

But with Tanaka in the air, need to get a #2 or # 3 from somewhere.

Yeah didi and drew are terrible signings. I'm sure there will be atleast 1 trade before the deadline. He will get a infeilder not a pitcher.

Did wasn't a bad trade. They went for his defense. And truthfully anybody is better than that corpse we had last year that we were forced to bat 2nd in the order

 

[awwsome]

They might have to test Nelson Cruz again.

 

[thekidgriffey24]

Harold Reynolds just said that Brandon Crawford is a superstar

The man knows what he's talking about

 

[jumpman ii]

Harold Reynolds just said that Brandon Crawford is a superstar

Maybe on defense

 

[macbk]

Delgado was my dude in Backyard Baseball

Pablo Sanchez >>>>

Pete Wheeler leading off .

 

[jewbacca2]

Pablo Sanchez >>>>

Pete Wheeler leading off .

People used to cheese so damn bad in that game. Playing online, people would abuse taking extra bases and you could just manipulate with making the defense make throws. Jimmies still rustled about that.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Didi trade sucked. They got the guy for his defense but he's never posted a positive UZR in his career. -2.3 so far this year. -3.1 last year. Just for a comparison for the lulz Wilmer Flores' bum *** has a -0.1 UZR this year.

Gave up a very solid starter in Shane Greene for a guy that is mediocre at best. Is he an upgrade defensively from Jeter, sure, Jewbacca would be an upgrade, but Didi is nothing more than a league average player at best.

 

[essential1]

I wouldn't get ahead of myself with "very solid" starter for Shane Greene. He's an inconsistent back end starter. Doesn't mean he's not good, but his ceiling isn't getting past that.

Tanaka & Pineda 1 & 2. Eovaldi a 3 or 4. Severino on his way up in 2016. And CC with 3 more seasons on his contract. There was no place for Greene, and could replace him with Adam Warren. Or Nova when he's back from TJ.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Greene is solid. He's still learning his changeup which when on has been very helpful against lefties. I'd rather have Greene in the rotation than some of your other back-end options. Tanaka isn't a 1, sorry, can't have anyone that's one start away from Tommy John being a 1. Pineda is really a 3. You had a chance to have good SP depth by holding onto Greene and keeping Warren/Whitley as long-relief/spot starters but Cash had to jump the gun in bring in a league average shortstop. Yankees are going to regret that trade.

 

[essential1]

Ok. Under your scenario If Tanaka is not a 1. And he's a 2. Pineda's a 3. Eovaldi is a 4. And CC who is here for 3 years is a 5.

And they have Warren who is a SP, and Severino making his way up, and Nova who will be back soon.

Where do you put Greene because Eovaldi is as good, and you won't be able to move CC.

Carry 9 starting pitchers? They have enough back end starters, no point in keeping a guy who has that same ceiling when they had a guy they liked for a position of need.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Warren would be in the bullpen in long relief. You really don't know what Nova has if he even has anything at all. Severino won't be ready for at least a year so it's not something you'd be concerned about right now. You can never have too much depth. Especially when Tanaka is pitching with a torn ligament, CC is washed up and Pineda has had some injury issues in the past. I would much rather have that depth than a guy at short that's league average at best.

 

[essential1]

Warren would be in the bullpen in long relief. You really don't know what Nova has if he even has anything at all. Severino won't be ready for at least a year so it's not something you'd be concerned about right now. You can never have too much depth. Especially when Tanaka is pitching with a torn ligament, CC is washed up and Pineda has had some injury issues in the past. I would much rather have that depth than a guy at short that's league average at best.

You're missing the point, the trade for Shane Greene would happen anyway. If not this season, after the season. Maybe he ups his stock and they could have gotten more, or maybe he lowers his stock, or maybe it stays the same, but he was still going to get traded.

Warren is better in the bullpen I'll give you that, but he's still a decent enough pitcher to be a back end starter.

CC is washed up, but guess what, we're stuck with him. No way really around that.

They sure as hell could lose the trade, Greene may end up as a decent # 3. But they won't regret it. You're acting like they traded a surefire perennial All-Star or a # 1 or # 2 starter.

They traded a back end starter, when they had plenty of back-end starters (as if Back End Starters are not available every year for the taking) and replaced Greene with Eovaldi who is as good.

Greene is never going to be the guy that was the difference between anything. Didi isn't either but they had a surplus of one, nothing in the other and made a trade

So just stop it.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

i would've kept Greene

 

[freddie black]

Unfortunate setback for Alex Cobb.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Rendon suffered a setback as well. Sucks for those guys.

 

[awwsome]

Seems like more pitchers tearing up their elbows than ever recently.

Makes me wonder how guys like Nolan Ryan (I know outlier) pitched forever.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

i dont get it. is it the arm action/mechanics? is it the pitches being thrown? is it the way they grow up and dont properly rest/heal their arms? is it just the advancements in medicine? are teams/doctors too cautious/quick to pull the trigger? it's so weird.

 

[awwsome]

You would think that trainers and medical knowledge would be more advanced leading to less injury at this stage but that's hardly been the case.

I need hard data but it just seems like dudes are dropping like flies.

Can't even watch Darvish/McCarthy/Wheeler for a long while.


Edit: http://mlbreports.com/tj-surgery/

When you look from 2012 to now, something is definitely up.

 

[d3si]

I remember I read an article about Nolan Ryan's durability a long time ago. The key for his long career is work ethic. There wasn't sports medicine in his era. He had to maintain a strict workout program such as running, weight lifting and stretching. He said if you can touch your toes, then you can pitch longer. That's his theory.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

its so weird man.

 

[d3si]

Did anybody read an article about Ted Williams and his daughter Claudia on ESPN? Long article, but good read. Pretty sad. I didn't know Ted Williams had a tough life.

 

[jewbacca2]

As a former pitcher, this is my opinion:

Mechanics and not having a properly conditioned arm are the two biggest things that lead to jury.

Certain mechanical defencies put more stress on the elbow/shoulder. If you're interested in, there's tons of articles and information out there about what mechanical inefficiency leads to what injury.

And I've this part in here a 1000 times. Pitchers and baseball players in genera need to throw a whole lot to fine tune their craft. Every throw should be with a purpose trying to hit a specific spot or you're just wasting your time. Players need to learn not every throw needs to be a max effort throw. I believe people getting too hot too quick without properly warming up and without proper arm conditioning is a big factor leading to injury. Babying pitchers doesn't help, they need to throw, but controlled, and not max effort every time you pick up a baseball.

 

[johnnyredstorm]

Did anybody read an article about Ted Williams and his daughter Claudia on ESPN? Long article, but good read. Pretty sad. I didn't know Ted Williams had a tough life.

for anyone that wants to read it
http://espn.go.com/espn/feature/sto...ms-legacy-preserved-daughter-claudia-williams

lil long so ill get to it later

 

[johnnyredstorm]

As a former pitcher, this is my opinion:

Mechanics and not having a properly conditioned arm are the two biggest things that lead to jury.

Certain mechanical defencies put more stress on the elbow/shoulder. If you're interested in, there's tons of articles and information out there about what mechanical inefficiency leads to what injury.

And I've this part in here a 1000 times. Pitchers and baseball players in genera need to throw a whole lot to fine tune their craft. Every throw should be with a purpose trying to hit a specific spot or you're just wasting your time. Players need to learn not every throw needs to be a max effort throw. I believe people getting too hot too quick without properly warming up and without proper arm conditioning is a big factor leading to injury. Babying pitchers doesn't help, they need to throw, but controlled, and not max effort every time you pick up a baseball.

any links to these articles or more information on any of the points you made? if i ever have a son i want him to be the next great pitcher so i wanna learn as much about the craft and staying healthy as possible