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2016 Official NBA Off-Season Thread: Former Greatness
- Thread in 'Sports & Training' Thread starter Started by CP1708,
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- Jul 29, 2001
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Not even in part. Schultz is THE person to blame.
The team was losing $15 million a year by the time they sold (a number told to me by a minority owner years later, btw). Owning an NBA team wasn't a profitable venture (for everyone) until very recently. It was always a vanity project. Basically, a hobby. Some owners made money, most didn't. NBA teams were toys for rich boys. Schultz was kind of ahead of his time in a sense. He wanted to run it like a business and make money. Except, the league wasn't ready for it. He bailed after six years. Stern knew the OKC ownership group wanted a team, so he put Schultz into contact with them, with a guarantee they'd overpay by $50 million to cover his losses. Schultz says he courted local owners. Ballmer still regrets not buying at the time. He was CEO of Microsoft and says he didn't have time. Jim Sinegal from Costco wasn't quite powerful enough to sway opinion. So, Schultz sold the team in order to recoup his losses. That's all he cared about: coming out ahead.
I know the vote among the Sonics owners was close (there were two dozen or so of them), but Schultz swayed the couple he needed for a majority to approve a sale. APPARENTLY, none of them knew WHO the team was going to be sold to, and some who voted for the sale were pissed when they found out it was to out of town owners. A band of minority owners tried to block it by exercising their right of first refusal, but they didn't have enough money.
There's more to it, but that's why Schultz is a snake. He saw a chance to break even (or come out ahead) and ran with it. He didn't care. He's not a Seattle guy. He's a New Yorker. And his joke of a son spews nonsense about the NBA for the Huffington Post thanks to daddy getting him a cushy gig there.
Basically, **** Howard Schultz. He can die in a fire.
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Why do the Knicks ALWAYS have to get the short end of the trade stick whenever NT makes these awful trade predictions?
Knicks have no reason to trade for Blake Griffin when hey have Porzingas and Noah.
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Werd. At least say Knicks get kyrie and a first rounder
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Damn. This **** gets deep
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A lot of folks mentioned Harden, Ibaka, Jeff Green, Reggie Jackson as guys who have passed through OKC. Lets also not forget prime Tyson Chandler who they got for joe smith and Chris Wilcox. The Thunder team dr. failed Chandler at his physical and said he'd have a shorten career or may never play again b/c of his big toe 
. I've heard that he was told to fail him by the owners b/c after the trade a bunch of the Thunder's owners lost a bunch of money in the stock market right after the trade. If true, just another example as to how they were too cheap to keep all the talent around.
. I've heard that he was told to fail him by the owners b/c after the trade a bunch of the Thunder's owners lost a bunch of money in the stock market right after the trade. If true, just another example as to how they were too cheap to keep all the talent around.
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Swaggy T
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Caps and trades and clauses isn't something I'm well versed in so, those who know can you clear something up....isn't it going to be hard for OKC to trade Russ.....
I mean he only has a year left, and to do a sign and trade would mean he has to sign this year and leave Millions on the table so, I don't see him signing this year.....I mean who would give up Valuable pieces for a hope.....
How far off am I here?
I mean he only has a year left, and to do a sign and trade would mean he has to sign this year and leave Millions on the table so, I don't see him signing this year.....I mean who would give up Valuable pieces for a hope.....
How far off am I here?
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A lot of folks mentioned Harden, Ibaka, Jeff Green, Reggie Jackson as guys who have passed through OKC. Lets also not forget prime Tyson Chandler who they got for joe smith and Chris Wilcox. The Thunder team dr. failed Chandler at his physical and said he'd have a shorten career or may never play again b/c of his big toe
This is my all-time underrated "what-if". If their doc passes Chandler, he doesn't end up on the Mavs team that won it all in 2011. The Mavs and Thunder literally met a year later in the conference Finals, and Chandler was the defensive anchor for the Mavs. That rescinded trade literally swung one title, and possibly more. You can't say that about most "what-ifs" in NBA history.
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Real talk though, Boston and LA are the only two teams that would trade for him and offer just compensation.
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In order to do a sign-and-trade next summer, I believe he has to agree to (at least) a three-year deal. OKC is going to have to sit him down and have a real conversation about his future. They can't let him go for nothing like Durant. With the cap jump, he's looking for a full max deal (5 years with OKC, 4 years with other teams, I believe). That's why OKC is at a disadvantage: Westbrook holds all the power, as do his suitors. This could be a 2010 situation, where Cleveland got a bunch of random draft picks in exchange for LeBron. That;s why OKC should be more proactive and get as much as they can earlier, rather than wait.
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This is where those Boston picks come in handy.
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Thats basically why they will never get close to real value for westbrook.
Still better than nothing i guess.
Looking real dark ahead for okc
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^Mericaaaaaa
**** yeah!
**** yeah!
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You will never get equal return for a super star in any sport.
Thunder need to sit down with Russy and basically air it out.
Either he's gonna stay or they have to blow it up.
Thunder need to sit down with Russy and basically air it out.
Either he's gonna stay or they have to blow it up.
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God, just imagine if they lost their entire team to some other city. THINK OF THE CARNAGE!!!!
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Wonder what these people will do when OKC trades Rustle over the summer?
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Rednecks will use anything as an excuse to shoot some **** up
I personally am happy that kd left that hick town. Welcome to Cali trey fif
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Russ is built to stay....and not specifically off of that Aplha bs Beta merit.
KD has a team, an entourage around him who also weighed in on his decision and (key word here) Their future, as well as his. My friends were a part of my happiness at 27, it's just what it is. I shared my wealth and we all ate.
Russ rolls solo to dolo in that aspect. Really just him the bro The Mother and Father and the wife.
He marches to his own drum, and he "doesn't do dunk contests because he can't dunk on people"
Not trying to talk myself into him staying but as with anything in my life I try and apply "what would I do" or a "logical" approach to before leaning on my own understanding.
My heart says Russ stays and KD wins a chip and returns back to OKC homesick from a year of debauchery.
My mind says the latter doesn't happen, even the Chip for KD and Russ plays out his year in OKC and resigns a year from now after loving having his team be, legitimately his.
KD has a team, an entourage around him who also weighed in on his decision and (key word here) Their future, as well as his. My friends were a part of my happiness at 27, it's just what it is. I shared my wealth and we all ate.
Russ rolls solo to dolo in that aspect. Really just him the bro The Mother and Father and the wife.
He marches to his own drum, and he "doesn't do dunk contests because he can't dunk on people"
Not trying to talk myself into him staying but as with anything in my life I try and apply "what would I do" or a "logical" approach to before leaning on my own understanding.
My heart says Russ stays and KD wins a chip and returns back to OKC homesick from a year of debauchery.
My mind says the latter doesn't happen, even the Chip for KD and Russ plays out his year in OKC and resigns a year from now after loving having his team be, legitimately his.
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God, just imagine if they lost their entire team to some other city. THINK OF THE CARNAGE!!!!
Then the people will forget in a year while drinking 3.2 Beers at Sooner tailgate parties, as they did before Thunder arrived.
Bend_The_Knee
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A-friend, let's just say Russ gets traded, either by the deadline or next summer in a S&T.
To what team would you think he goes and what would you like in return?
To what team would you think he goes and what would you like in return?
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If OKC is smart they trade Russ to any dumb team willing to rent him before the season starts. Get some young players and a couple draft picks.
As said Lakers and Celtics would probably do that.
Just a businessman that didn't really care about the fans or the franchise that wanted to break even/make a profit.
Coldblooded but a snake? Maybe if he lied to everybody constantly that the team wasn't moving.
As said Lakers and Celtics would probably do that.
Reading that it don't come off like Schultz is a snake.
Just a businessman that didn't really care about the fans or the franchise that wanted to break even/make a profit.
Coldblooded but a snake? Maybe if he lied to everybody constantly that the team wasn't moving.
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