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Lakers were -550 against the Pistons Is that the biggest choke in Finals history? I couldn't find odds prior to 2004.
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right but still...none of the 'other guys' are as important as the mj's, the kobes, the brons. Without the main guys, the 'other guys' would never even be in the position to contribute. Of course they're important, but they're not the most important.
I mean, yeah of course? I don't think anyone would say Fox was as important as Shaq or that BJ Armstrong is as important as Pippen.
But they matter. A lot. This isn't tennis and your roster outside of your star(s) goes a very long way towards determining w's / l's.
You can believe in Bron and still think the Warriors will win the series
Ppl are comparing Bron to Jordan at the moment, so I don't think this is about ppl thinking LBJ isn't good enough supplement his team's shortcomings vs GSW.of course. who is arguing the contrary?
maybe people recognize that the cavs arent good enough and they don't believe bron is good enough to supplement their shortcomings?
But that's literally the ONLY 'logic' I've seen with people picking the Cavs. It's Bron this, Bron that.
I hate this argument. Yes, Cavs won games 6 and 7 once Dray came back, but the team he can back to was not the same team pre game 5. Iggy was clearly playing hurt, as his back was flaring up. Also, with no Bogut, Dubs were unable to set the tone, allowing Bron and and Kyrie to attack the paint at will, which led to them getting in their zone, leading to 40 point games for each of them.I don't understand this. They still lost two more games after game 5 with draymond
But somehow ppl discount the love and kyrie injury in 2015.
Ezeli, neither of which were effective against s. Of course, I expect Lebron to also bang down there.
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You can believe in Bron and still think the Warriors will win the series
More excuses for the Warriors losing game 6 and 7. How big a factor was draymond when you need Andre and bogut at 100%? They are both older players and they played consecutive long seasons.
Game 7 at home with their 3 best players. Love was hurt and ineffective for most of the series; so that must count for something.
I genuinely hope the cavs pull this off. It'd be so dope to see.
'08 they got Gasol and immediately started beating up on everyone, including the defending NBA champs. Meanwhile Boston needed 7 games against the 37-45 Hawks and a very shallow Cavs team. Calling Boston the better team after the fact is disingenuous. The Lakers were playing better ball against better comp at the time. As a unit, they looked superior.Nah they just don't believe in him. Even when Bean didn't have the horses info 2008 the general public and odds makers favored him against a better team. Lebbywinks is a false prophet.
If this is true why doesn't Jordan have 13 rings?right but still...none of the 'other guys' are as important as the mj's, the kobes, the brons. Without the main guys, the 'other guys' would never even be in the position to contribute. Of course they're important, but they're not the most important.
Got chaKD, no question. Warriors lose, Steph still has a championship in 3 Finals appearances.
Warriors lose, and KD is 0-2 against Bron.
Really need KD to go super saiyan levels these finalsbruh bouta get the monkey off his back just like bron in 2012. the irony.
KD gives him buckets true, but IMO when they play he be in awe of LeBron and Bron ends up outplaying him