AIR JORDAN 3 BLACK CEMENT - NOVEMBER 23, 2024

Crazy...I see a Vietnam pair for under retail that's not too bad. I'll probably just cop those. They're gonna be every day beaters anyway.
 
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Oh they gave you the Wallabee toe joints! That’s despicable :wow:
 
Nah that's just your pair. My VW1 joints look nothing like that
That's the problem with working with your sample size of one pair and talking in absolutes. Same guy who was saying there was only one good Military Blue factory (LN3) before even getting a pair in. Didn't turn out to be true at all.
 
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Quick comparison with my WC 3
Yeah my VW pairs look nothing like this on the toe, I feel like I’ve seen OG’s with that stubby toe in pictures though 🤔

Talking in absolutes here. That pair up there is awful but there's zero overlap near the toecap on either of my Vietnam pairs. We got experts telling us how all Vietnam pairs are constructed and they've not even touched a Chinese pair.

This factory/shape talk is gonna age horribly once we hit this time next year and people are actually wearing their pairs only to notice it makes no difference which factory made what, yet all these hoops were jumped through for a certain factory manufactured pair.

😂 never change NT, never change..
 
The lil lip above the elephant print is an eyesore and only seems to be on the Vietnam pairs.

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Yep. That’s the exact difference between the two. Lip on the Vietnam pair is more vertical while the China (LNM & LN4M) lip is more cinched and horizontal/flat making for a much sleeker look that you see on the WCs and Deserst Elephants for example. Began to point this out last week but was too exhausted/over it go into detail. It’s a super subtle detail but makes a huge difference in how the shoe is overall shaped around the toe area. That said, it doesn’t mean the Vietnam pairs are inherently bad either. It’s a minor difference that most people wouldn’t even notice, as we can see in these comments. VW1 and LNM pairs look largely the same on foot and after seeing so many variations of pairs on eBay I definitely came across some great looking Vietnam pairs with a nice shapes. Just all comes down to preference if you even know there’s a difference. Sadly, I know the difference and now I have to buy a 3rd pair that I wasn’t planning to lol.
 
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LN4M is better but LNM is best.

That widows peak should be flushed (nearly horizontal) following the EP. And the EP should not stand straight up like a vertical line. I’m not even going to get into the build/uppers lol. VW1’s are :sick:
I agree all this except for the fact that if you look at pics of the OGs, you’ll see that on a lot of them the EP stands up straight like a vertical line as you’re describing. So technically that’s an OG feature. It varied depending on the factory, same as we’re experiencing now. Still I agree they should have made the lip more horizontal if they were going to go that route. Also I’ve seen a lot of VW1 pairs where the EP curves (One of my pairs has it) but the non horizontal lip almost kills it. It’s like a wasted effort lol. Still happy with my pairs overall though.
 
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Quick comparison with my WC3

Notice how the toe of WC flows, and its roundish, has more of a slope/cleaner look with the overlap above the elephant print.

Curves.

Vietnam BC3 has a boxy, sloppier overlap.

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One of my pairs the right shoe looks nearly identical to my WCs, while left is identical to what you show here. Frankly, it's a violation of my senses; absolutely can't stand it. Yes, I've seen OGs with really thin and vertical EP, but there's still an overall slant to the toe box; what we have here simply cannot be compared. Fortunately I'm able to make a good pair b/c I ended up with 3 pairs. One right shoe is completely deformed....as in from the top view you can see the whole shoe curves.

Ironically, the EP is low and consistent across all pairs. It's just that toe box cut. Tongues are only barely lower than my WCs and not an issue for me. I do still need some time to take them out and look more closely. These observations were from quickly opening and taking a look.
 
I have 5 mens pairs from various retailers. (Dicks, Footlocker, DTLR, local boutique, and JD) all of my pairs are VW1. Where are the China pairs coming from?
 
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Quick comparison with my WC3

Notice how the toe of WC flows, and its roundish, has more of a slope/cleaner look with the overlap above the elephant print.

Curves.

Vietnam BC3 has a boxy, sloppier overlap.

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Thank you for the pics and for explaining. Will have to look at my pair later when I get home but I didn't notice that on mine.
 
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