Finally got to hold these in person today. Was trying to enter the raffle at fta and come to find out they did fcfs guarantee tickets yesterday. Here's my observation. The fire red doesn't pop at all, very dull. There's no shine to the 'leather' like in some other pics posted before. The 'leather' is rock hard, feels more stiff than the wc iv's from last year. The blue tint still bugs me, but it isn't too dark. It will yellow in time. What bothers me is the netting on the sides and tongue are clear. WTF??? You can make that clear but not the bottom soles? Overall, easy pass for me. Really wanted these but refuse this quality. You really need to hold these in hand to understand what I'm talking about. And these won't be hard to find if you do your homework.