Air Jordan 6 OLYMPIC JULY 2012 Now with Photos!

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Originally Posted by Jada2001Retro

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@ all these jits talking about "oh about time" when we all know 90% of ya'll had no idea about these when they released originally.

My thoughts exactly. People who were wearing and collecting jays when jordan was playing in the 90's thats a shoe head not 9-10 years after he retired from the bulls, that actually does not even make sense, people collect his shoes because its a trend and thats all. 
This is a great shoe. 
 
speaking as someone who's been in to jays since 89/90, i don't care for these oly vi's. tbh, i'd much prefer the upper be two different materials like the carmines. two different colour leathers just looks crap imo. for vi's, if it's one material, it needs to be one colour.
 
hopefully these dont relese with the round(sb) laces like the 00's did, i hated that look and swapped for flat laces!
 
Originally Posted by JHes91

Hopefully they will release the carmines also


We can only hope !I have a feeling they are holding all the VI's back until the 23rd anniversary to unleash a barrage of CW's !
 
Originally Posted by Toffeerado

Originally Posted by Jada2001Retro

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@ all these jits talking about "oh about time" when we all know 90% of ya'll had no idea about these when they released originally.

My thoughts exactly. People who were wearing and collecting jays when jordan was playing in the 90's thats a shoe head not 9-10 years after he retired from the bulls, that actually does not even make sense, people collect his shoes because its a trend and thats all. 
This is a great shoe. 
Another guy who says JAYS instead of Jordans 
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 Is there really needed to shorten a word like JORDAN that has only two syllables at all.
and as we have so many Jordan brand shoes, i often have to mention AIR JORDANS the one and only true Jordan line in my opinion.
 
Originally Posted by Toffeerado

Originally Posted by Jada2001Retro

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@ all these jits talking about "oh about time" when we all know 90% of ya'll had no idea about these when they released originally.

My thoughts exactly. People who were wearing and collecting jays when jordan was playing in the 90's thats a shoe head not 9-10 years after he retired from the bulls, that actually does not even make sense, people collect his shoes because its a trend and thats all. 
This is a great shoe. 


And yet you're talking about you wish they didn't come out, so the "value" will be protected
 
Originally Posted by Magic1978

Originally Posted by Toffeerado

Originally Posted by Jada2001Retro

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@ all these jits talking about "oh about time" when we all know 90% of ya'll had no idea about these when they released originally.

My thoughts exactly. People who were wearing and collecting jays when jordan was playing in the 90's thats a shoe head not 9-10 years after he retired from the bulls, that actually does not even make sense, people collect his shoes because its a trend and thats all. 
This is a great shoe. 


And yet you're talking about you wish they didn't come out, so the "value" will be protected


I think that's the wrong dude who said protect value.
 
Originally Posted by jm9312
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 Perfect execution. 
These will be copped regardless of the new colored midsole or if they fix it. I could give 2 ++%!! about it. The only VI's that really matter to me are Infra's and Carmines. But I just really, really like this colorway so they will more than likely be acquired. 

I need more white/blue kicks in my life. 

Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

Originally Posted by elcerrito91

Erased for peace of mind
Dude, why is it always about collectors and money with you- and what are you talking about the money isnt there. Fools payin $400 + for those new DB IV's, Ray Allen 13's goin for upwards of a grand- WE DID NOT pay those kinda prices EVER- until people like you came around- who treat sneakers like theyre freakin Pokemon, beanie babies or pogs. (When i say we, im talkin about ppl like me who grew up on Jordans and Nike BB shoes- money had nothin to do with it for me- and it wasnt about quantity either. Now, we have all these idiots, who "collect" for a couple years, most dont even really wear them- and then you see their stupidA$$' selling their whole "collection" when they realize what buffoons they were for spending all that money in the first place. You say they have no reason to listen to the haters and will continue to keep makin "low quality" shoes- then why do you find it necessary to continue all these rants and complaints? The reason we've gotten to this point is because of people exactly like you. I havent bought a pair of Jordans (new releases) since 2005, except for a couple pairs of split CDP packs to ball in (what a mistake that was) lol- and i wont buy these. But i know they will sellout with the quickness- and not 1 damb is given- let them do them- and u do u (but what is it that u do anyways)......


Realest @#$% I read in the whole thread. Its a damn sneaker. We copped these %%$!@ when we were kids because they were cool looking shoes. Regardless of how and where the damn colors were. 

Nowadays dudes have this @#$% broken down to a science, paying attention to stitching, cuts, and all this other @#$% that didn't even matter back in the day. Its one thing to have a hobby, and its another thing to take it too damn far. 
 
Originally Posted by PRIME

Originally Posted by jm9312
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 Perfect execution. 
These will be copped regardless of the new colored midsole or if they fix it. I could give 2 ++%!! about it. The only VI's that really matter to me are Infra's and Carmines. But I just really, really like this colorway so they will more than likely be acquired. 

I need more white/blue kicks in my life. 

Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

Originally Posted by elcerrito91

Erased for peace of mind
Dude, why is it always about collectors and money with you- and what are you talking about the money isnt there. Fools payin $400 + for those new DB IV's, Ray Allen 13's goin for upwards of a grand- WE DID NOT pay those kinda prices EVER- until people like you came around- who treat sneakers like theyre freakin Pokemon, beanie babies or pogs. (When i say we, im talkin about ppl like me who grew up on Jordans and Nike BB shoes- money had nothin to do with it for me- and it wasnt about quantity either. Now, we have all these idiots, who "collect" for a couple years, most dont even really wear them- and then you see their stupidA$$' selling their whole "collection" when they realize what buffoons they were for spending all that money in the first place. You say they have no reason to listen to the haters and will continue to keep makin "low quality" shoes- then why do you find it necessary to continue all these rants and complaints? The reason we've gotten to this point is because of people exactly like you. I havent bought a pair of Jordans (new releases) since 2005, except for a couple pairs of split CDP packs to ball in (what a mistake that was) lol- and i wont buy these. But i know they will sellout with the quickness- and not 1 damb is given- let them do them- and u do u (but what is it that u do anyways)......


Realest @#$% I read in the whole thread. Its a damn sneaker. We copped these %%$!@ when we were kids because they were cool looking shoes. Regardless of how and where the damn colors were. 

Nowadays dudes have this @#$% broken down to a science, paying attention to stitching, cuts, and all this other @#$% that didn't even matter back in the day. Its one thing to have a hobby, and its another thing to take it too damn far. 


   you have a point.
back when I was in elementary school, the word quality just meant having a pair of air jordans or nikes. no one cared about the color makeup, stitching, glue spots, etc...we all just wanted to be like Mike and wear what he wore on the court and what our favorite celebs wore.

and about quality..I want to say the first shoe that had a radical change was the 2001 true blue IIIs. the jumpman replaced the nike air, the elephant print was considerably bolder, the back of the tounge was changed to blue, the mold was bulkier, and the blue wrapped around the midsole instead of stopping midway like the originals. I'd imagine that these got the same kind of hate back in 2001, yet theyre praised like gold today. go figure.
 
Originally Posted by sthebest

Originally Posted by PRIME

Originally Posted by jm9312
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 Perfect execution. 
These will be copped regardless of the new colored midsole or if they fix it. I could give 2 ++%!! about it. The only VI's that really matter to me are Infra's and Carmines. But I just really, really like this colorway so they will more than likely be acquired. 

I need more white/blue kicks in my life. 

Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

Dude, why is it always about collectors and money with you- and what are you talking about the money isnt there. Fools payin $400 + for those new DB IV's, Ray Allen 13's goin for upwards of a grand- WE DID NOT pay those kinda prices EVER- until people like you came around- who treat sneakers like theyre freakin Pokemon, beanie babies or pogs. (When i say we, im talkin about ppl like me who grew up on Jordans and Nike BB shoes- money had nothin to do with it for me- and it wasnt about quantity either. Now, we have all these idiots, who "collect" for a couple years, most dont even really wear them- and then you see their stupidA$$' selling their whole "collection" when they realize what buffoons they were for spending all that money in the first place. You say they have no reason to listen to the haters and will continue to keep makin "low quality" shoes- then why do you find it necessary to continue all these rants and complaints? The reason we've gotten to this point is because of people exactly like you. I havent bought a pair of Jordans (new releases) since 2005, except for a couple pairs of split CDP packs to ball in (what a mistake that was) lol- and i wont buy these. But i know they will sellout with the quickness- and not 1 damb is given- let them do them- and u do u (but what is it that u do anyways)......


Realest @#$% I read in the whole thread. Its a damn sneaker. We copped these %%$!@ when we were kids because they were cool looking shoes. Regardless of how and where the damn colors were. 

Nowadays dudes have this @#$% broken down to a science, paying attention to stitching, cuts, and all this other @#$% that didn't even matter back in the day. Its one thing to have a hobby, and its another thing to take it too damn far. 


   you have a point.
back when I was in elementary school, the word quality just meant having a pair of air jordans or nikes. no one cared about the color makeup, stitching, glue spots, etc...we all just wanted to be like Mike and wear what he wore on the court and what our favorite celebs wore.

and about quality..I want to say the first shoe that had a radical change was the 2001 true blue IIIs. the jumpman replaced the nike air, the elephant print was considerably bolder, the back of the tounge was changed to blue, the mold was bulkier, and the blue wrapped around the midsole instead of stopping midway like the originals. I'd imagine that these got the same kind of hate back in 2001, yet theyre praised like gold today. go figure.
The thing I've never understood to this day is a lot of people's misconception with the word "quality". The thing I always read in threads is guys going back and forth about the "quality" of a shoe based off of things that really have nothing to do with its quality at all. 
Dudes will say "Oh, the red is a shade darker, the quality on these are worse" or something like "Man, they took the Nike Air off the back? The quality on the old ones are better"

Word? The QUALITY and build of the shoe is worse because Jordan Brand became its own stand alone brand outside of being directly under Nike's wing? Of course there's going to be a damn Jumpman on the back. Its Marketing. You don't see a Chevy with a damn GMC badge on it do you? 

Guys will !%@%! and moan about patent cuts, stitching, and Nike Air tags as if those things help keep the shoe together. The stitching on the 2011 III's is just as good as the OG. That stitching isn't going to rip any faster than a pair from the 80's would have back then. 

Dudes need to go look up the meaning of quality and then change their choice of words when complaining about these shoes man. The QUALITY of a shoe is measured by its materials used and the overall construction of the shoe. A shoe that will last you 5-10 years without falling apart is a good QUALITY shoe. Just because a company decides to change some minor color/design aspects of the shoe, that doesn't mean that the quality of the shoe is worse. It means they have altered the aesthetics of the shoe. Aesthetics =/= Quality. 

The ONLY real change in Jordan sneakers I have seen in the past 10 years is the leather, which imo is finally getting better again. 

The shape of the shoes isn't a quality issue for the VI's and the XI's, but rather a design change. 

/Rant

StheBest that rant wasn't directed towards you fam, just more of my thoughts on what we were discussing
 
But the whole reason why so many complain these days is because both aesthetics and quality have gone downhill ...drastically!
 
Originally Posted by FIREPOWER23

But the whole reason why so many complain these days is because both aesthetics and quality have gone downhill ...drastically!
Actually that trend is already going uphill again since 2010. 2002 to 2009 have been the worst by far.
Now the leather is more consistent, paintjob crack and chip much less, overall shapes has also redeemed a lot.
Sure they still are not comparable to everything that came out before Summer 2001, but yet there have been

improvements which is a good sign.
 
Originally Posted by elcerrito91

would rather have 00s (with these popping up, I wouldn't doubt people would try to cash out while the money is still there, same story on white/black-True Red Xs....I've already seen quite a few white/ black-royal- orange flame (NY) Xs, white/black- royal blue- metallic silver (Orlando) Xs, and white/ black-kelly-yellow gold (Seattle) Xs go on the bay for pretty reasonable values).


PASS, why not just buy the real thing? (nobody said this hobby was cheap)...the beasts don't even know what these are, it'd be funny if they sat, though I seriously doubt that will happen
Wait a sec. Your the same guy who posts in the SB fourms whenever there is a new Sb and tell everyone not to buy it and to just buy the older, hard to get, "golden age" expensive ones. Now your doing it in JB forms. Stop tryna tell people to buy the new shoes already. go create a blog if you still have stuff to say on it or make moves to get the quality back other than complaining and trying to convince us. We know already about quality and you've said your peace so guess what? MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE. Its done. Just stop.
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Originally Posted by Nowitzness41

Originally Posted by elcerrito91

Erased for peace of mind
Dude, why is it always about collectors and money with you- and what are you talking about the money isnt there. Fools payin $400 + for those new DB IV's, Ray Allen 13's goin for upwards of a grand- WE DID NOT pay those kinda prices EVER- until people like you came around- who treat sneakers like theyre freakin Pokemon, beanie babies or pogs. (When i say we, im talkin about ppl like me who grew up on Jordans and Nike BB shoes- money had nothin to do with it for me- and it wasnt about quantity either. Now, we have all these idiots, who "collect" for a couple years, most dont even really wear them- and then you see their stupidA$$' selling their whole "collection" when they realize what buffoons they were for spending all that money in the first place. You say they have no reason to listen to the haters and will continue to keep makin "low quality" shoes- then why do you find it necessary to continue all these rants and complaints? The reason we've gotten to this point is because of people exactly like you. I havent bought a pair of Jordans (new releases) since 2005, except for a couple pairs of split CDP packs to ball in (what a mistake that was) lol- and i wont buy these. But i know they will sellout with the quickness- and not 1 damb is given- let them do them- and u do u (but what is it that u do anyways)......

I'M SORRY TO TAKE THIS THREAD OFF TOPIC 

(if you quote this post, do not quote the pics; no reason to).

I haven't bought a pair of Jordans at retail since 05 as well and won't cop another future Jordan either. I find it necessary to make these complaints because they are just my op, and to be honest it seems like few people who are still on NT know the real reasons why the situation is what it is because a lot of you seem to think that JB owes you something or is supposed to make the shoes exactly the same way as the OGs (or in this case a retro + cw), JB is using us for money, don't you guys get it? I'll say what I said a page back, JB never cared about collectors for anything more than a profit opportunity and they sure are taking full advantage....are you really what brainwashed by them, that you can't see that by now?






Notice how we haven't had Flip Jays like pics in a long time as far as GR releases go; the days of these kinds of pick ups are pretty much over (the money isn't there like it used to on a widespread level, it's not like Grapes, Space jams, etc were as limited as DB IVs or RA XIIIs either)...my point is that sneaker collecting has dramatically changed in recent years, it's not how it used to be as far as the modern era (99-present) where Nike really took notice of us and exploited the market:
not necessarily all resellers, but:

and

Originally Posted by elcerrito91

Originally Posted by moneymike88

elcerrito91

I wont quote all those pics but according to that post Grapes, Altitudes, DMPs, Laser IV's, and Olive V's were a general release 
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Stop posting.
okay, though they were not officially a GR, I meant more available than DB IVs or RA XIIIs; at least Grapes, Olive Vs and Space Jams were......the others you mentioned above were marketed as "limited"(Olive Vs included; urban account) so I'll give you that, but the days of reselling at high values on a general level are pretty much gone which was what my overall point of mentioning those pairs was......That aside, nobody can argue about JB not caring about collectors for anything other than money or how they exploited us though.



Buying new Jordans for collecting is essentially pointless since they will most likely be retroed again/ they aren't as good as their predecessors (why not just spend your money on the real thing (OG or earlier retro edition) of the same shoe instead especially when you know they are better?), also because stuff is retroed so frequently and in such high quantities, a myth of exclusivity (also formed by being marketed as "limited") is created and the shoes become quite commonplace/ worthless. Another thing is that a good amount of experienced NTers still think the shoes as sacred  and that JB should or even that they have the obligation to make them exactly as the originals or not make them at all and that some pairs should be left unretroed etc). So my question is, why are experienced NTers still falling for JB's tricks and obvious manipulation of the market even when you do know the issues I'm talking about and why are some of you still believing that JB actually cared about us except to make more money or  that they actually care about our feelings on shoes? I understand that some of you may feel like you "need" these for the collection or just to have/ wear which is fine, but I just can't see how you can settle for a subpar "altered" version that isn't even the real thing and especially when you know they won't be as good as the 00 version......I'd rather just shell out the 4-6ish for the real deal; (fyi, there's a yellowed DS 9.5 for 4 on the bay right now, if anyone wants em for that low...same dude has DS sz 12 white laser IVs for 389 plus shipping too).




 Also can't you tell that JB is obviously cashing out and taking maximum advantage of collectors because they know that a substantial amount of us are losing interest in the line and they want to make the most money as possible while they still can, because why else would they retro these, Chicago Xs, white/ cement IVs, Columbia XIs etc all in one year combined with all of the other recent retros of "classic" CWs: (Black Cement IIIs, True Blue IIIs, Last Shot XIVs etc)?!? The fact that they are retroing some of the pairs that most of us would have never thought they would (Altitude XIIIs, Chicago Xs, Bordeaux VIIs for example), is a clear sign to me that JB is feeling the pressure caused by some of us losing interest and thus want to release the stuff while enough of us are still around and willing to buy the pairs because it's not like the kid (most likely an HB) who got into Jordans in 08 would know what Chicago Xs or Olympic VIs are anyways, thus may not be willing to buy them due to a lack of connection/ reliability to the shoes themselves.



I seriously would not doubt that DMPs, Laser IVs, XQ Is would be retroed at some point, just due to the fact that they are retroing shoes that were marketed as "limited" pairs too, such as Olympic VIs or Altitude XIIIs, as well as practically every shoe that some collectors are still "waiting" for (Chicago Xs, white/ cement IVs etc) which basically is a message to me that anything is up for grabs as far as retros go and I would bet that JB will take full advantage of our reduced presence similar to what they've been doing since 00 as far as catering to us, which actually just produced more HBs, who then allowed JB to lower quality/ prod costs because the current market would buy the stuff anyways (this applies to mainstream Jordan consumer as well, who doesn't necessarily know about collecting or is uninformed as far as quality declination goes and who usually are into Jordans because they are "cool" or a status symbol, which makes them HBs at the end of the day as well). JB was created in 97 to milk the line for as much profit as possible and thus was built on a bubble that is going to pop sooner than later imo, give or take a few more years, possibly five.

Originally Posted by YoungSk8

^You type too much...

I know, but what I'm saying should be understood by those who are uninformed/ who basically allowed JB to do the stuff they've been doing since 04, and sadly even some members are NT still don't know.


"Stop Posting", "You type too much", everything "Nowitzness41" said....truer words were never spoken...
All i heard elcerrito say was "Wahh! They dont make the new shoes from anybrand like old ones and i dont like it so imma tell everybody, everyday of my life to not like it and  not buy newer models because what i think matters for everybody! Wahh!"



DUDE PLEASE.....

























LET IT GO.
 
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