All Things Sports Media Thread!!

[JD617]

It's a damn shame when great writers lose their jobs while loudmouth morons like Skip, Stephen A, and Rovell are still employed.

 

[mr marcus]

Greenwald was leaving grantland regardless next week anyway

 

[therealrell]

It's a damn shame when great writers lose their jobs and loudmouth morons like Skip, Stephen A, and Rovell are still employed.

That's not how any of this work. SAS and Skip are box office draws despite how you feel about them. Their ratings justify the salaries they make. If Grantland had the revenue that many of you think it generated it would still be alive. Their daily, weekly and monthly analytics would tell the story. Legit revenue streams are very hard to come by and those that are available are nurtured. Grantland simply wasn't that.

 

[JD617]

I understand that. The point still stands. It's a shame that brainless yelling is what brings in revenue, and not quality content.

 

[Benny Hinn]

It's a damn shame when great writers lose their jobs and loudmouth morons like Skip, Stephen A, and Rovell are still employed.

That's not how any of this work. SAS and Skip are box office draws despite how you feel about them. Their ratings justify the salaries they make. If Grantland had the revenue that many of you think it generated it would still be alive. Their daily, weekly and monthly analytics would tell the story. Legit revenue streams are very hard to come by and those that are available are nurtured. Grantland simply wasn't that.

Disney is making ESPN layoff hundreds of people because of the NFL and NBA deals. This is not just Grantland.

Plus Simmons is making bank off his podcasts now. Guy does like 3 promos ever podcast.

 

[therealrell]

I understand that. The point still stands. It's a shame that brainless yelling is what brings in revenue, and not quality content.

I feel you. I really do. I rarely watch ESPN programming. Grantland suffered from its inability to appeal to a wider base. It had very cool kids vibe to it. It tried too hard to be smart and different and as a result likely turned potential readers away.

 

[mr marcus]

 

I understand that. The point still stands. It's a shame that brainless yelling is what brings in revenue, and not quality content.

I feel you. I really do. I rarely watch ESPN programming. Grantland suffered from its inability to appeal to a wider base. It had very cool kids vibe to it. It tried too hard to be smart and different and as a result likely turned potential readers away.

Grantland was never really advertised by ESPN and had terrible placement on the main ESPN site. Also your average sports fans want quick hitting content and doesn't want to read pages after pages after pages. It's why **** sites like deadspin and those other clickbait sports sites bring in a lot of revenue. Sports writing is a different animal these days 

 

[therealrell]

Disney is making ESPN layoff hundreds of people because of the NFL and NBA deals. This is not just Grantland.

Plus Simmons is making bank off his podcasts now. Guy does like 3 promos ever podcast.

They fired 250 people recently with more to come. The Grantland writers will be alright. I'm not crying over them like the sports media circle jerk is doing right now. The older people who were laid off that won't be hired due to age discrimination is who people should feel bad for.

 

[hood17]

@espnmikes All Grantland writers will have their contracts honored. The intent is to use the sportswriters on other ESPN platforms.

I'm worried that Cheap Heat is now going to be horrible because ESPN now partner with WWE to show highlights on SC now which makes no sense to me.

I would hope the NBA hires Zach Lowe and let him have all their resources to do something on his own.

Jalen and Jacoby with the new show is strictly ESPN right?

 

[mr marcus]

 

Disney is making ESPN layoff hundreds of people because of the NFL and NBA deals. This is not just Grantland.

Plus Simmons is making bank off his podcasts now. Guy does like 3 promos ever podcast.

They fired 250 people recently with more to come. The Grantland writers will be alright. I'm not crying over them like the sports media circle jerk is doing right now. The older people who were laid off that won't be hired due to age discrimination is who people should feel bad for.

let us be upset in peace. 

 

 

@espnmikes All Grantland writers will have their contracts honored. The intent is to use the sportswriters on other ESPN platforms.

I'm worried that Cheap Heat is now going to be horrible because ESPN now partner with WWE to show highlights on SC now which makes no sense to me.

I would hope the NBA hires Zach Lowe and let him have all their resources to do something on his own.

Jalen and Jacoby with the new show is strictly ESPN right?

yep

 

[RyGuy45]

Wow

Despite the conspiracy theories, this has nothing to do with their beef with Simmons. At the end of the day, it is all about profit and revenue. If Grantland was truly profitable, ESPN would have kept it alive. The revenue that they brought in was not significant and therefore made it expendable. It is why Buzzfeed can literally post crap all day and continue to do so on a daily basis because the clicks justify it. Grantland satisfied a niche audience and when it comes to the bottom line that is simply not enough.

Grantland was never really advertised by ESPN and had terrible placement on the main ESPN site. Also your average sports fans want quick hitting content and doesn't want to read pages after pages after pages. It's why **** sites like deadspin and those other clickbait sports sites bring in a lot of revenue. Sports writing is a different animal these days

This. We have made the internet an A.D.D.-ridden experience where troll headlines garner clicks and $$$ -- and great writing and longform pieces have no real place.

It's why I still appreciate reading the newspaper every day, the NYT every Sunday, etc.

Fantasy sports now is THE "thing" for ESPN and similar sports sites to garner clicks. It's made a huge dent into ESPN's bottom line -- unlike Grantland.

The may have been posted in here previously but ESPN.com's September Top Traffic:

View media item 1768633

 

[jpzx]

Yikes. Where did you find that graphic?

 

[herbshuttles15]

Whoa......... Well now espn means nothing. Their superior fantasy football app is all they have.

realest **** anti ever said

 

[Trey Bantz]

Whoa......... Well now espn means nothing. Their superior fantasy football app is all they have.

Not even dude. Yahoo is so much quicker with the injury updates. I'll get a notification about a player from Yahoo, then the same notification will come from ESPN like 5-10 minutes later.

 

[RyGuy45]

JPZ - http://awfulannouncing.com/2015/esp...almost-exclusively-from-fantasy-football.html

 

[jpzx]

@MikeJonesWaPo: Washington WR Pierre Garcon files a class action lawsuit on behalf of NFL players against Fan Duel.

They're saying misappropriation, but Fanduel and Draft Kings still exist because of the "fantasy sports" loophole. In that case, fantasy sports have always been around and the avenue to monetize in the way FD/DK have done this fall has always been there for the taking by whoever jumped on it first then.

So how can the players win this since Fanduel and Draft Kings are proven to still exist only because it's inexplicably defined as "fantasy sports". Fantasy sports have always been around and thus, the case will be made that the players are only doing this now because fantasy sports are making $/want a piece of the pie.

 

[Clyde Frog]

We have made the internet an A.D.D.-ridden experience where troll headlines garner clicks and $$$ -- and great writing and longform pieces have no real place.

Yep. The effect of the facebook's and twitter's. We are wired to scroll and skim.

 

[jpzx]

@McCannSportsLaw: Ed O'Bannon-styled litigation comes to Daily Fantasy Sports: NFL players say FanDuel must pay for using their names.

I guess, but wouldn't it have to be a number then that both Yahoo and ESPN could digest in paying for the use of names. Unless they already do. But the NFL has reason to not want this $ in order to pay for players' names to get out of hand because obviously because of how ESPN is already so tied in with the NFL for rights and losing $ as we have talked about today. Plus, Robert Kraft has a stake in DK/FD, among other owners, so the NFL and its owners both have reasons to try to mitigate this.

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This is awesome. Redick-Lowe podcast post-Emoji Day was terrific.

@JJRedick: Wouldn't say this if I didn't mean it- Grantland had incredibly talented writers and created fantastic content. Sad day.

 

[jpzx]

RIP FanDuel

Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo
DraftKings has a licensing agreement with the NFLPA. FanDuel does not.

 

[Benny Hinn]

Disney is making ESPN layoff hundreds of people because of the NFL and NBA deals. This is not just Grantland.

Plus Simmons is making bank off his podcasts now. Guy does like 3 promos ever podcast.

They fired 250 people recently with more to come. The Grantland writers will be alright. I'm not crying over them like the sports media circle jerk is doing right now. The older people who were laid off that won't be hired due to age discrimination is who people should feel bad for.

Huh?

You realize the job market for journalism like this is terrible right now, right? Everybody has a low attention span now and wants "articles" written in Top 10 lists

And I don't think Grantland has any "older" people. I honestly don't think they had anybody on the staff that was over 45.

It's never cool when anybody gets laid off. What an odd stance and angle to come away from this.

 

[elpablo21]

 

[jpzx]

The climate's very, very bad (I mean look at the five years behind us, what other profession can you say, 'I realistically have no idea what my profession is going to look like in five years?')

 

[osh kosh bosh]

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

The **** is going on today?

Dis all tew much for a damn Friday afternoon. 

Like damn sports world...SLOW the **** DOWN. 

 

[Trey Bantz]

The climate's very, very bad (I mean look at the five years behind us, what other profession can you say, 'I realistically have no idea what my profession is going to look like in five years?')

The legal profession to an extent.