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Stephen A Smith is a pessimistic Knick fan, though. He sees more negatives than humanly possible.
and we're done
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Anyways...
**** everyone that said Philly bk and the sixers were better than us and saying we're a 7 or 8 seed
I don't care how early in the season it is I'm gunna talk my ****
Only thing I hope is that the team, and especially Melo, can keep this intensity up for a whole season. I get exhausted just watching them work and play this hard
I loved how last year was the first time in forever we didn't give uncontested drives to the basket when we had Tyson on the floor, but seems like we have the bigs to do it for the whole 48 minutes now
We've come a long way since opponents were blowing by Nate rob and crawford and giving eddy curry and david lee the best view in the building of their layup/dunk
Oh yeah and when Amare Shump and Camby come back our depth is gunna be one damn good problem to have. Hopefully since this is real life and not NBA2K as long as we're winning players don't get upset about PT and don't have their morale meter and rating plummet
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Also, icing on the cake that bk and the eagles lost tn
And loving that we have 5 players on the floor at all time that know what they're doing and know their roles. No scrubs or young dudes trying to find their identity. This leads to everyone trusting each other on the floor, more confidence and continuity, and allows for the whole team to be vocal on both ends. The trust and communication have been impressive. I finally feel like I'm watching a real team.
And loving that we have 5 players on the floor at all time that know what they're doing and know their roles. No scrubs or young dudes trying to find their identity. This leads to everyone trusting each other on the floor, more confidence and continuity, and allows for the whole team to be vocal on both ends. The trust and communication have been impressive. I finally feel like I'm watching a real team.
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Sheed AF1s!!! They better release
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It was last season but don't get selective amnesia now...dudes was calling for Melo's head last year when he came back and ****** up that streak...
That was last year...but its a new season....and a much more healthy Melo.
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i enjoy when the knicks win. too many haters being ***** on this board. 3-0 and not against shabby teams.
like everyone has said who isnt a jerk, the past is the past. you cannot predict what will happen this season off the last..
like everyone has said who isnt a jerk, the past is the past. you cannot predict what will happen this season off the last..
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So it looks like you gonna have to score in the 100s to beat the Knicks. The problem is nobody has scored over 90 yet
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Turnovers!!!!!! That's the reason we let Lin go and that's why we are starting so hot. It's that simple
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Felton's defense has been good too
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Honestly guys, we're 3-0 because Lin isn't on this team. We beat a VERY good and efficiently run defensive team twice, and once at their home. Like I said earlier, I want to see how we fair against the Celtics and Bulls. So far we beat 2 teams that lack size and an inside presence. Let's see how we fair against bigger teams.
Having Felton and J.Kidd is also a MAJOR addition to the offense. One of the biggest problems we had last year was that our ball movement was pathetic. That's why I was so hesitant about Woodson being our coach.
I'll be the first one to admit that i thought Woodson would give us a a boring/dry offense, but I had no idea the ball movement would've been like this.
We're 3-0 because...
1. No Lin to turn the ball over 8 times a game
2. Felton and Kidd pushing the ball up and staying aggressive
3. Melo finally being a leader on BOTH ends of the floor
4. Our defensive intensity is absolutely amazing to watch. I'd rather hold opponents to under 90 points than score 100+ every game.
As long as we can keep this defensive intensity up and keep the ball moving, we're looking to see Miami in the Eastern Conference finals.
Having Felton and J.Kidd is also a MAJOR addition to the offense. One of the biggest problems we had last year was that our ball movement was pathetic. That's why I was so hesitant about Woodson being our coach.
I'll be the first one to admit that i thought Woodson would give us a a boring/dry offense, but I had no idea the ball movement would've been like this.
We're 3-0 because...
1. No Lin to turn the ball over 8 times a game
2. Felton and Kidd pushing the ball up and staying aggressive
3. Melo finally being a leader on BOTH ends of the floor
4. Our defensive intensity is absolutely amazing to watch. I'd rather hold opponents to under 90 points than score 100+ every game.
As long as we can keep this defensive intensity up and keep the ball moving, we're looking to see Miami in the Eastern Conference finals.
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Ima start by saying that I was at the Heat game, and it was to date BY FAR the best Knicks game ive ever been to. After the amount of times ive personally witnessed Bron Bron make the Garden his personal playhouse I have been waiting YEARS for him to walk off the court like a little ***** being heckled by the NY fan base. Words cannot even describe.
Next thing. **** D'Antoni. **** Jeremy Lin. **** Landry Fields.
While Lin and Fields were out getting theirs" this summer for god knows what reason, marketing, cool handshakes, whatever the ****. The Knicks avoided Lin's $15 a year ridiculous **** contract and Landry Field's $20 how the **** did he get that kinda money deal with Felton for $4 mil and Brewer for just over 1, for 2 players who fill each role MUCH more effectively, a move ive been applauding since day 1.
Fields showed up to camp last season admittedly out of shape but he is a much better PG than Lin. Hes more experienced, more agile, a better shooter, better defender and less turnover prone, plus i think he is the quarterback this team needs going forward now that it is known he is not just our stop gap PG, He loves playing in NY and I personally love having him.
Brewer's J is suspect as **** (although it looked nice tonight) but in no dimension of the universe can it be worse than Field's broke *** ****. Adding on to that he does nothing worse than Landry. He is the much better defender, he is more athletic, and is a better finisher at the rim, and as far as i know he doesnt play like a scared little *****. Considering that Brewer has been a starter on a better team for the past couple of seasons and Landry's own fanbase (who once worshiped him) couldnt want to get rid of him any quicker, it is unbelievable to me how Fields came away with that contract and we got Brewer at such a steal. Another move i loved this summer.
Lastly **** you Mike D'Antoni. Woodson is an underrated coach who has the respect of the players. They love him, they want to play hard for him, AND he STILL gets them to play ******g defense, You dont need to throw $ down the ******g drain for Mike D'Antoni who essential;ly coaches the way weve been ******g playing anyway with the pick and rolls, fast ball movement, and 3 point shots. Except with D'Antoni it is live and die by the 3 and no D, PEACE mother ******.
Last but certainly not least is the argument i have been making all ******g offseason even if you go back and look at my first post from just before the preseason. All i hear this summer is how the Knicks didnt get better, just got older, and i was always on the **** that ****. Cause you say we got older i say that the Kbicks got some SAVVY VETERAN ******* who know their role and most importantly KNOW HOW TO WIN. These dudes are battle tested leaders who know where they stand with the team.
If you tell me were going out and starting Jason Kidd/Prigioni, Kurt Thomas, and Marcus Camby/Rasheed Wallace as 3/5 of the starting lineup expecting 25+ minutes a night from each then maybe get a little worried. But as i have said all summer long there is nothing wrong with getting some experienced veterans if they are for the right role on the team. We are not the celtics who are asking 3 35+ year olds to carry their team throughout the season. We got a bunch of guys, who yes are 35+, but to come in and play a role they are all WELL capable of for 20 minutes a night MAXIMUM while leading these young guys mentally. Notice how we have not blown a lead yet. Extra passes. Help defense. Boxing out. Drawing fouls when nothing is available. These are all savvy veteran moves brought to this team by some great offseason aquisitions regardless what ******g beat writers want to say about our average age because the majority of our players playing big minutes are not 31+ years old. As long as these dudes stay healthy we should be alright.
Anyway im all about this team right now. Not even so worried about shooting so well every night, because unlike with D'Antoni when we are blowing teams out it is NOT because we are hitting every 3 we take and dropping 120+ on opponents. Yes we are shooting well, and yes we are scoring well into our 100s but we are not winning BECAUSE of that. With the way this team is playing I can still be confident that even when we have the occasional off night we can still keep it close with defense limiting opponents under 90 a game, which is the way it should be. Blow teams out when we shoot hot, but even if we dont grind out those 81-77 games like we did back in the mother ******g day. When the old dudes on this team were back in their prime. And were doing this all without 2 of our best defenders.
Obviously it is still early and Im not ready to start making plans for the ECF yet but great ******g start, lets keep it up. Only thing that worries me is working Amare back in because we work so well without him and we have not proven to work well with him. But for me it is like last April. We may play better without Amare and dominate regular season games and pull off maybe the occasional victory over a team like the Heat. But lets be real this team cannot and will not hang with the big boys like Miami in a 7 game playoff series UNLESS we can work our 2nd best scorer into the mix AND work together/play defense as good as we have as a unit and we have not proven we can do so. So yeah, still a long road ahead of us but good ******g start men. Been waiting years for a team like this and i know most of yall have also, so lets get pumped cause we should, but lets also stay realistic cause weve all seen runs before.
Next thing. **** D'Antoni. **** Jeremy Lin. **** Landry Fields.
While Lin and Fields were out getting theirs" this summer for god knows what reason, marketing, cool handshakes, whatever the ****. The Knicks avoided Lin's $15 a year ridiculous **** contract and Landry Field's $20 how the **** did he get that kinda money deal with Felton for $4 mil and Brewer for just over 1, for 2 players who fill each role MUCH more effectively, a move ive been applauding since day 1.
Fields showed up to camp last season admittedly out of shape but he is a much better PG than Lin. Hes more experienced, more agile, a better shooter, better defender and less turnover prone, plus i think he is the quarterback this team needs going forward now that it is known he is not just our stop gap PG, He loves playing in NY and I personally love having him.
Brewer's J is suspect as **** (although it looked nice tonight) but in no dimension of the universe can it be worse than Field's broke *** ****. Adding on to that he does nothing worse than Landry. He is the much better defender, he is more athletic, and is a better finisher at the rim, and as far as i know he doesnt play like a scared little *****. Considering that Brewer has been a starter on a better team for the past couple of seasons and Landry's own fanbase (who once worshiped him) couldnt want to get rid of him any quicker, it is unbelievable to me how Fields came away with that contract and we got Brewer at such a steal. Another move i loved this summer.
Lastly **** you Mike D'Antoni. Woodson is an underrated coach who has the respect of the players. They love him, they want to play hard for him, AND he STILL gets them to play ******g defense, You dont need to throw $ down the ******g drain for Mike D'Antoni who essential;ly coaches the way weve been ******g playing anyway with the pick and rolls, fast ball movement, and 3 point shots. Except with D'Antoni it is live and die by the 3 and no D, PEACE mother ******.
Last but certainly not least is the argument i have been making all ******g offseason even if you go back and look at my first post from just before the preseason. All i hear this summer is how the Knicks didnt get better, just got older, and i was always on the **** that ****. Cause you say we got older i say that the Kbicks got some SAVVY VETERAN ******* who know their role and most importantly KNOW HOW TO WIN. These dudes are battle tested leaders who know where they stand with the team.
If you tell me were going out and starting Jason Kidd/Prigioni, Kurt Thomas, and Marcus Camby/Rasheed Wallace as 3/5 of the starting lineup expecting 25+ minutes a night from each then maybe get a little worried. But as i have said all summer long there is nothing wrong with getting some experienced veterans if they are for the right role on the team. We are not the celtics who are asking 3 35+ year olds to carry their team throughout the season. We got a bunch of guys, who yes are 35+, but to come in and play a role they are all WELL capable of for 20 minutes a night MAXIMUM while leading these young guys mentally. Notice how we have not blown a lead yet. Extra passes. Help defense. Boxing out. Drawing fouls when nothing is available. These are all savvy veteran moves brought to this team by some great offseason aquisitions regardless what ******g beat writers want to say about our average age because the majority of our players playing big minutes are not 31+ years old. As long as these dudes stay healthy we should be alright.
Anyway im all about this team right now. Not even so worried about shooting so well every night, because unlike with D'Antoni when we are blowing teams out it is NOT because we are hitting every 3 we take and dropping 120+ on opponents. Yes we are shooting well, and yes we are scoring well into our 100s but we are not winning BECAUSE of that. With the way this team is playing I can still be confident that even when we have the occasional off night we can still keep it close with defense limiting opponents under 90 a game, which is the way it should be. Blow teams out when we shoot hot, but even if we dont grind out those 81-77 games like we did back in the mother ******g day. When the old dudes on this team were back in their prime. And were doing this all without 2 of our best defenders.
Obviously it is still early and Im not ready to start making plans for the ECF yet but great ******g start, lets keep it up. Only thing that worries me is working Amare back in because we work so well without him and we have not proven to work well with him. But for me it is like last April. We may play better without Amare and dominate regular season games and pull off maybe the occasional victory over a team like the Heat. But lets be real this team cannot and will not hang with the big boys like Miami in a 7 game playoff series UNLESS we can work our 2nd best scorer into the mix AND work together/play defense as good as we have as a unit and we have not proven we can do so. So yeah, still a long road ahead of us but good ******g start men. Been waiting years for a team like this and i know most of yall have also, so lets get pumped cause we should, but lets also stay realistic cause weve all seen runs before.
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When we went our separate ways with Donnie I thought all this franchise worked for and all that we as fans endured had gone to waste, but Grunwalds done an A+ job since he's been in office.
Using our amnesty clause on Chauncey to get a center who became the DPOY
Getting JR for cheap, Lin, and Novak
Not overpaying Lin and Fields
Replacing them with players at a much lower price who are better and are vets
Getting 2 rookies who can contribute right away when we didn't even have a first round pick
Correct me if I'm wrong, but dude must have had something to do with drafting Shump
Helping to make this a franchise that vets want to play for and players are willing to take a pay cut to be in.
Getting rid of toney douglas
I don't think he's made one bad move yet, and dudes killing it from both a basketball and financial standpoint
Using our amnesty clause on Chauncey to get a center who became the DPOY
Getting JR for cheap, Lin, and Novak
Not overpaying Lin and Fields
Replacing them with players at a much lower price who are better and are vets
Getting 2 rookies who can contribute right away when we didn't even have a first round pick
Correct me if I'm wrong, but dude must have had something to do with drafting Shump
Helping to make this a franchise that vets want to play for and players are willing to take a pay cut to be in.
Getting rid of toney douglas
I don't think he's made one bad move yet, and dudes killing it from both a basketball and financial standpoint
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Agreed. He deserves a blank check from Dolan so we could fire him in two years.
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other then da ugly *** font on da new jersey, im ******g wit this knicks team this year...bunch of wily vets and my man sheed still puttin in work
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yep, this knick team is having ALOT of fun
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Idk how woodson is gonna have the rotation once shump and amare are back. Seems like we are too deep lol
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3 games in. 43 3 pointers. No shump, No amare, no problem. 75 page thread.
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When we went our separate ways with Donnie I thought all this franchise worked for and all that we as fans endured had gone to waste, but Grunwalds done an A+ job since he's been in office.
Using our amnesty clause on Chauncey to get a center who became the DPOY
Getting JR for cheap, Lin, and Novak
Not overpaying Lin and Fields
Replacing them with players at a much lower price who are better and are vets
Getting 2 rookies who can contribute right away when we didn't even have a first round pick
Correct me if I'm wrong, but dude must have had something to do with drafting Shump
Helping to make this a franchise that vets want to play for and players are willing to take a pay cut to be in.
Getting rid of toney douglas
I don't think he's made one bad move yet, and dudes killing it from both a basketball and financial standpoint
Donnie Walsh drafted Iman Shumpert. It was his last decision before he left. Grunwald may have had some input.
Too early to tell if Grunwald is legit or killing it, its been one year. As far as the amnesty situation, Grunwald completely handled that situation wrong. We could have kept our amnesty, not signed Billups, and signed Tyson. Amnesty could have been used on an overloaded contract to free up cap (Amar'e), and go after free agents who said they'd sign in NY (Deron Williams or Chris Paul) or others. Many teams still have their Amnesty, they're actually waiting to use it in the right situation, we pulled the trigger to soon. Never liked how that situation was handeled.
Grunwald made the right choice in not signing Lin, Fields, and losing Toney Douglas - but it isn't rocket science. Landry Fields and Toney Douglas
Bringing in the vets was good, he realized its a must win team now. Getting back Felton and signing Kidd were his best move.
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Donnie Walsh drafted Iman Shumpert. It was his last decision before he left. Grunwald may have had some input.
Too early to tell if Grunwald is legit or killing it, its been one year. As far as the amnesty situation, Grunwald completely handled that situation wrong. We could have kept our amnesty, not signed Billups, and signed Tyson. Amnesty could have been used on an overloaded contract to free up cap (Amar'e), and go after free agents who said they'd sign in NY (Deron Williams or Chris Paul) or others. Many teams still have their Amnesty, they're actually waiting to use it in the right situation, we pulled the trigger to soon. Never liked how that situation was handeled.
Grunwald made the right choice in not signing Lin, Fields, and losing Toney Douglas - but it isn't rocket science. Landry Fields and Toney Douglas
Bringing in the vets was good, he realized its a must win team now. Getting back Felton and signing Kidd were his best move.
lol you gotta be kidding...i think he did it the right way...No way we could have gotten Tyson Chandler without doing that
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Shump starts automatically which is a no brainer.
STAT on the other hand is going to get starts by default unless he shows he doesn't deserve to be starting.
I'd rather have Felton starting over Kidd, he attacks the paint more.
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What do you mean I'm kidding proph.
We still could have signed Tyson if we never picked up Chauncy's player option and kept our amnesty.
Did I not make that clear? Was that not the better way to go about it?
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