and we're done

Rautins was a nothing pick and we let Landry walk.

I'm just saying, worse players with worse behavior problems have sat on that bench. And knowing Pringles, he would've got the passive-aggressive "sit your *** down" message early and often. There's a better basketball culture in Indiana for sure, but you're saying he'd end up like Titus Young if we drafted him?

NY is ruthless if you're not acting right, and how shorthanded we've been, it's not like we would've just cut him or stopped trying.

Putting aside his faults, Mike Woodson can reach difficult players.
 
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Lance would have been caught up in some ****. Let's be real here.....

Fields was addition by subtraction.

Jennings would have been traded for melo along withe everyone else :smh:

It look alike Novak, JR, felton are signed in 2015. So once we pay melo... How much money we got? Are we screwed another decade?
 
^Nah in two seasons we should have a ton of cap space once Amar'e & Tyson's contracts come off the books. The Knicks don't have much flexibility in the short term but they are not screwed for the long term which I like.
 
Report: J.R. Smith will re-sign with Knicks on four-year deal
By Zach Harper | NBA writer
May 20, 2013 10:32 am ET

J.R. Smith should be ready to cash in this offseason. After making a little more than $5 million over his last two years with the New York Knicks, he has a player option for next season that he will undoubtedly forgo in hopes of signing a more lucrative contract.

But just how lucrative will that contract be? After winning Sixth Man of the Year (even if you think someone else might deserve it), he should have plenty of suitors in need of a scorer lining up to pay him for his services. However, he stated within the past week that he wants to retire as a Knick. This could be a ploy to drive up the negotiating price for Smith, or he could be sincere.

Marc Berman of the New York Post is reporting that this plan is definitely sincere and that it includes Chris Smith, J.R.'s brother, getting an NBA job in the process.

The J.R. Smith/Chris Smith package deal is shaping up.

The Post has learned point guard Chris Smith, J.R. Smith's brother who injured his knee during Knicks training camp, has fired his agent, Marc Cornstein, and will hire J.R.'s rep, CAA superagent Leon Rose, who also handles Carmelo Anthony.

J.R. Smith is expected to opt out of his contract and re-sign with the Knicks in a four-year deal starting at about $5 million because the Knicks own his early-Bird rights rules.

The Knicks could be outbid for J.R. Smith by an under-the-cap team, though it's unlikely considering his playoff flop. But having Chris Smith as part of the package has convinced the Sixth Man of the Year he wants to stay. After the Game 6 loss Saturday, the embattled Smith said “I want to retire a Knick.''

This would end up being a great contract for the Knicks because they don't really have the luxury of competing with higher bids, and while Smith's shot selection might not be ideal for a lot of offenses and systems, his value should certainly be higher than $5 million per season. He has an incredible ability to score and more than enough talent that coaches can consistently harness out of him.

The idea of packaging with his brother is a smart move by the Knicks if they want to circumvent the process of trying to outbid the rest of the teams that might want to sign Smith. Chris Smith went undrafted in the 2012 NBA draft and was given a roster spot on the Knicks' Summer League team. He averaged 5.2 points in 19.4 minutes during his five games, and shot just 29.0 percent from the field and 37.5 percent from 3-point range.

But that didn't stop him from getting a training camp invite with the Knicks. He hurt his knee during training camp and was waived before the season started.

J.R. Smith averaged a career-high 18.1 points and 5.3 rebounds while shooting 42.2 percent from the field and 35.6 percent from 3-point range. He beat out Jamal Crawford and Jarrett Jack for the 2012-13 Sixth Man of the Year award, the first of his career.
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He is taking a pay cut. He knew he lost a lot of money in FA.
 
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GREENBURGH, N.Y. -- Add Marcus Camby only playing 12 seconds against the Pacers to the head-scratching moves Knicks coach Mike Woodson made in the series.

While the Pacers outrebounded the Knicks by 52 over six games, Camby was sitting on the bench pain-free, according to his agent, Richard Kaplan.

"He has been healthy for a while now. I'm not sure why he didn't play," Kaplan told ESPNNewYork.com. Camby had been suffering from plantar fasciitis in his left foot down the stretch of the regular season.

Adding to the confusion, Tyson Chandler said Monday that his "strength and physical presence" were lacking against the Pacers, after having lost 10 pounds from the flu. Woodson preferred to play small ball for more offense, but the Knicks could've used Camby.

Camby, 39, who's signed through 2015, will likely return next season. "He's under contract and there is no question they can use him, so one would expect he'd be back," Kaplan said.




I hope that's just agent talk. I would be ppiiiiiiiisssseed if Camby was good to go while Tyson is struggling and kenyon is too short
 
where can i get this knicks fitted tho? :nerd: I wanna get it

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Carmelo Anthony's NBA title chances with the New York Knicks are slim, according to Syracuse head coach Jim Boeheim. (Associated Press)

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Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim maintains little hope that former Syracuse star Carmelo Anthony can win an NBA title with the New York Knicks.

"Not on that team," Boeheim said. "He did what he can do. He played very well the final game. Everybody's killing him but Tyson Chandler just didn't try to catch the ball. He threw him the ball and Tyson Chandler went like this (Boeheim dodged in a chair in his office in the Carmelo K. Anthony Center). He was wide open. He should have been looking for the ball right here. Kenyon Martin should have been looking for the ball. They both went like this (Boeheim dodged again). Carmelo gets turnovers and the announcers aren't smart enough to even think, 'Well, the guy should try to catch the ball.' "

Boeheim said he watched the Knicks series closely, following his former star.

Anthony averaged 28.5 points in the Eastern Conference semifinals, including a 39-point effort in Game 6 when the Knicks lost 106-99 to the Indiana Pacers. He scored more than twice as many points as any other Knick in the 4-2 series.

Boeheim said the Knicks needed Anthony, Raymond Felton and J.R. Smith to play well every night to have a chance in almost any game this season.

"Those guys weren't great players where they were and now they're asking them to be second and third options," Boeheim said. "In Miami the second and third options are Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. Your fourth option is Ray Allen, who is still in good shape. Your fifth option is Shane Battier, who is still a good player. The New York Knicks have who?"

Smith was second in playoff scoring for the Knicks with an average of 13.5 points, down from 18.1 during the regular season. Felton's average of 13.9 points dropped to 11.

The Knicks had hoped to form a potent forward tandem with Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire, but injuries limited Stoudemire, and questions about the chemistry between the two forwards has existed for nearly as long as their partnership.

The failure of that combination forced the Knicks to rely on role players, who Boeheim said weren't up to the task and left Anthony holding the bag.

With their offensive options limited, Knicks head coach Mike Woodson went to isolation sets, which only increased the offensive reliance on Anthony.

"I said to my son, 'He's going to have to get 50 for them to win,' " Boeheim said. "That's what he needed. Fifty. You're not going to get that against Indiana. They run an isolation offense so he goes one-on-one all the time. It's hard. It's hard work. They need more of an offense where he can get something going. He has to work too hard. That's not his fault. That's how it's set up."

The Syracuse coach, who won his only national title with Anthony as his star, has always been a vocal supporter of his former player, even appearing on the Colin Cowherd show earlier this month and defending him against an ardent critic.

The loss to the Pacers didn't change that.

While Roy Hibbert's block of an attempted Anthony dunk will remain the most memorable moment from Anthony's playoff failure, Boeheim said it was New York's lack of offensive options that allowed him to lurk beneath the basket instead of guarding his man.

"Tyson Chandler claims he never gets the ball. He doesn't try to get the ball," said Boeheim, who coached Chandler when he was a member of the 2012 United States Olympic team. "He had two points and Hibbert had (21). What was the difference in the series? Raymond Felton was 0-for-7. Lance Stephenson had (25) points. They're going to blame it on Carmelo? I told him when he went to New York, they're going to blame it on you."

"They have no chance to win. (Knicks starter) Pablo Prigioni has never scored against (the U.S. team). We played Argentina six or seven times in different events. He hasn't scored ... against us. You have to have players to win in the NBA."

While he was underwhelmed by the Knicks' supporting cast, Boeheim was impressed by the ensemble the Pacers have put together.

"Hibbert is really good," Boeheim said of the former Georgetown star. "(Paul) George is really good. They're all-stars, both of them. George Hill is really good. (David) West is a (former) all-star. That's three all-stars. It's not even close."

Even that won't be enough to challenge the Heat, Boeheim believes.

"LeBron (James) is the best player in the NBA," Boeheim said. "Unless he or Wade gets hurt, they're going to win this year and they're going to win next year."

As for the Knicks? According to this story in the New York Post the Knicks have little financial flexibility to make the move the Boeheim believes the franchise needs (signing Chris Paul) and Anthony can opt-out of his contract at the end of next season.

"They're getting nothing but older," Boeheim said. "They're not going to get better. They need two more options. Chris Paul would be the guy. ... No one else can help them. They're not going to beat Miami. Indiana's not going to get worse, they're going to get better. It doesn't look good."
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he spit some real, reeeeeeeal ****. Especially that paragraph about Shane battier being the 5th option. But yeah let's listen to the SAS of the world and trade him for...... Ummm TBD
 
Boeheim with too much truth.

But run the tape back about 2 years and change and talk about how the Melo and the Knicks had all the leverage against the Nuggs, but somehow ended up bidding against themselves and trading any chance of more options and flexibility for him so that he could get his extra $600k a year and make it just in time to get swept by the Cs.

Let's talk about that.

Dolan, Isiah, Melo, his agent, D'antoni and Grunwald made this mess we gotta live with for the next 2 years.
 
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So it really does seem like we're stuck with this team. Most likely, we re-sign JR, and have the 3 million midlevel (Bc we're above the cap threshold if we do?) and i guess just veterans minimums. Prigioni and kmart are not coming back for that, but Copeland might (although if prig and copeland are restricted can we match any offers?). With our 3 mil I guess we try to get a vet, and we have to hope to draft someone ready to play. Not looking too bright. Sad as it is, the key to a great team in the NBA is hitting with the 2-3 big contract players each team can get. Of our 3, one can't stay healthy and may not be the same again, and the other is soft as hell and can't guard or rebound against any top 15 centers.

On the bright side they're off the books in 2 years, but it's going to be a mediocre 2 years, unless we somehow draft the next Rondo at the end of rd1, or Amare returns to health (even if he does Woodson won't play him) and Tyson improves dramatically. I don't ever want to see J Kidd play significant minutes again and a successor to Chandler/Amare would be welcome so a PG, and backup Center seem to be the biggest needs. An athletic SF that plays defense (like Ronnie Brewer or Corey Brewer, both of whom we gave up for nothing the last 2 years) and rebounds could help too. Really need to get lucky and hit on this draft pick imo. can't go wrong as long as the guy can play and isn't an undersized PF who can't play defense (not taking shots at anyone, but this is probably the only thing the team doesn't need).
 
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