Andrew Tate. DONE.

[cragmatic]

From my thankfully limited observations of these dudes, it seems like they'll say something there's a little truth to then run wild with it. I even saw brief clip of Tate saying one thing I'd agree with, but then there's EVERYTHING else.

I guess that's the game. Still boggles my mind anyone would call in and ask these people their opinions on anything.

I did see him talking about how parents really have no say in what their children are learning. How they go to school for 8 hours a day, and then go home and have more influence from their teachers than the actual parents. It definitely came across as trying to instill fear in parents, especially the crowd that is worried about “woke” in schools.

But we all know how white washed history is for an example so I def felt like he was making some interesting points.

 

[trynafeelmink]

His insecure male fans are fueling this assessment of him, whether it was his intention or not. If this were really about grey areas he would bring more balanced people to interview but thats not getting any likes.

His show was definitely balanced between women & men, & again the reason the clips with him critiquing women got all the likes & shares is because of the "outrage" & the thought that nobody should be able to speak honestly to women about some of their choices & lack of accoutability.

He could berate & talk down to broke men all day & call em bums, nobody cares because that is normalized.... the genders switch & now it's bullying & Hate (Despite all of these women calling into his show specifically for his opinions)

 

[trynafeelmink]

I just scrolled through that FD signifier guys Twitter

 

[cragmatic]

I just scrolled through that FD signifier guys Twitter

Am I looking at the right twitter account? I see a lot of Lovie Smith discourse

 

[trynafeelmink]

Am I looking at the right twitter account? I see a lot of Lovie Smith discourse

Yea I scrolled around & Seen all the tell all signs of the left wing Twitter grifter, these dudes are essentially the opposite ends of the Tates/Fresh & fits of the world.

 

[DCAllAfrican]

 

[WASHED KING]

I agree with some of FD Signifier's takes. His video about black athletes being exploited I enjoyed watching, and his one on black masculinity.

Same with KS I can agree with some of a person's opinions and not agree with it all. Doesn't have to be a zero sum thing.

I don't agree with A THING TATE SAYS though

 

[deusavertat]

His show was definitely balanced between women & men, & again the reason the clips with him critiquing women got all the likes & shares is because of the "outrage" & the thought that nobody should be able to speak honestly to women about some of their choices & lack of accoutability.

He could berate & talk down to broke men all day & call em bums, nobody cares because that is normalized.... the genders switch & now it's bullying & Hate (Despite all of these women calling into his show specifically for his opinions)

I wasnt talking about balance of men and women. I was talking about balance of the type of women and men he interviews on the show.

The men who feel emotional connection to said bums, nobody cares about IS his target audience. Say some sh** about the modern woman, degrees, etc and they are all ears.

 

[cragmatic]

I agree with some of FD Signifier's takes. His video about black athletes being exploited I enjoyed watching, and his one on black masculinity.

Same with KS I can agree with some of a person's opinions and not agree with it all. Doesn't have to be a zero sum thing.

You hit the nail on the head. I feel like too many people in our society think if one person says something you strongly disagree with, you have to completely write them off. It’s okay to agree and disagree with different stances someone may have and not completely write them off.

 

[WASHED KING]

You hit the nail on the head. I feel like too many people in our society think if one person says something you strongly disagree with, you have to completely write them off. It’s okay to agree and disagree with different stances someone may have and not completely write them off.

Well if they do that then they can't put people in boxes and "CANCEL" them.

 

[deusavertat]

It is completely normal to write someone off for saying something you strongly disagree with ESPECIALLY when they also come with a following of people who generally go against your core values. We do this all the time consciously and subconsciously. The "cancel culture" "balance" rhetoric are coming from people who want the other sh** normalized.

Delivery is everything. Its not accident that certain type of men are attracted to the Tates and Samuels.

 

[Mark Antony]

It is completely normal to write someone off for saying something you strongly disagree with ESPECIALLY when they also come with a following of people who generally go against your core values. We do this all the time consciously and subconsciously. The "cancel culture" "balance" rhetoric are coming from people who want the other sh** normalized.

Delivery is everything. Its not accident that certain type of men are attract to the Tates and Samuels.

Thread is giving me a headache. First it's if you don't like them, just don't engage and pay them any mind. Now if you don't engage and pay them any mind you "cancelled" them.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Thread is giving me a headache. First it's if you don't like them, just don't engage and pay them any mind. Now if you don't engage and pay them any mind you "cancelled" them.

Given who is saying it, it isn't really a surprise

Like I sometimes wonder if people know how the internet works. Hell, how people work.

 

[cragmatic]

Obviously there are extremes and outliers but maybe if people worked harder to find common ground and work through their differences instead of just writing people off who don’t completely agree with them, the world would be a little friendlier and a little less divided .

 

[WASHED KING]

I'm here for the shoots people work themselves into tbh.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Obviously there are extremes and outliers but maybe if people worked harder to find common ground and work through their differences instead of just writing people off who don’t completely agree with them, the world would be a little friendlier and a little less divided .

So black people should work harder to find common ground with the racist white people that routinely try to inflict cruelty on their communities?

 

[cragmatic]

So black people should work harder to find common ground with the racist white people that routinely try to inflict cruelty on their communities?

When did I say that?

Way to completely jump to conclusions.

 

[RustyShackleford]

When did I say that?

Way to completely jump to conclusions.

It was a question

That is why I put a question mark

So answer the question instead of clutching your pearls

 

[cragmatic]

Here’s a perfect example for you Rusty…. Since all you ever want to do is argue.

I used to be very very against gun ownership, I didn’t see nor understand why people felt the need to own weapons. While I by no means have been converted to a gun enthusiast and I still believe we need stricter gun laws, I have listened to folks on the other side of the argument (many of which are not racist white people) and I have changed my perspective and have a wider understanding of some of their viewpoints.

 

[cragmatic]

Here’s a perfect example for you Rusty…. Since all you ever want to do is argue.

I used to be very very against gun ownership, I didn’t see nor understand why people felt the need to own weapons. While I by no means have been converted to a gun enthusiast and I still believe we need stricter gun laws, I have listened to folks on the other side of the argument (many of which are not racist white people) and I have changed my perspective and have a wider understanding of some of their viewpoints.

 

[RustyShackleford]

Here’s a perfect example for you Rusty…. Since all you ever want to do is argue.

I used to be very very against gun ownership, I didn’t see nor understand why people felt the need to own weapons. While I by no means have been converted to a gun enthusiast and I still believe we need stricter gun laws, I have listened to folks on the other side of the argument (many of which are not racist white people) and I have changed my perspective and have a wider understanding of some of their viewpoints.

Answer my question

I don't care about your views on guns

 

[cragmatic]

Answer my question

I don't care about your views on guns

Nope I don’t think that at all. I think we should hold racist white people accountable, and there are also racists people from every color and background. but I literally said nothing about it. You’re just looking to argue like you always do.

And of course you don’t care about finding common ground with people, instead you jump to extremes of a topic I didn’t even mention of finding common ground with.

Never change Rusty , never change.

 

[Mark Antony]

Given who is saying it, it isn't really a surprise

Like I sometimes wonder if people know how the internet works. Hell, how people work.

Thought it was pretty funny too and soon enough they'd contradict themselves.

 

[cragmatic]

Answer my question

I don't care about your views on guns

I’m gonna reverse your question on you.

If a child is raised by racist white people, and raised with racist ideologies, and they are given the mindset to write off everyone who doesn’t look like them or think like them, instead of learning to communicate with those who are different from them…. And idk, maybe learning that the racist ways they taught were wrong? How are people as a whole ever gonna move forward?

Because if we don’t try to correct these views or educate those who are been wrongly raised/taught/etc, how are we ever supposed to advance as a society?

It’s not a child’s fault for how they are raised, but with proper discourse, conversation, and communication, wrong ways of thinking can be changed with some people.

 

[WASHED KING]

And here.....we.....go.