Arguably the BEST Hip-Hop Album to date...

[blacklion23]

^^^Puff was talkin crazy as far as his statements about the song or on the song?

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

double

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

He could have even been talking about me [laughs], 'cause there was some cuts at Biggie on the Cuban Linx… album.


more than 1??

i know of shark ninjas


what else

btw is this from the xxl? whats on the cover?

 

[putting in work]

Props to OP

Big = GOAT to me... but

If we're going off of sheer quality and overall material...

I'll have to give it to NaS though I'm not a fan of him... I do respect his music.

Big is my favorite and RTD and LAD are very appreciated.

I will say that between which two I like more it could change, but I too favors LAD more because it has more material.

Puff should have put Victory on LAD to solidify it, but of course he had to save something to help push his album.

My top three albums goes...

Illmatic
Ready to Die
Life after Death

in no order though... well... nah not going to do it to myself because I don't want/need a brain fart this late at night.

 

[Animal Thug]

^Yea it was from the XXL.

I think Cuban got at Big on 'Ice Water'...can anybody confirm?

When Raekwon said some thing about 'White tryin to throw bleach in my eyesight'...

right?

 

[sonunox34]

[h4]13 "Notorious Thugs"[/h4]
FEATURING LAYZIE, KRAYZIE AND BIZZY BONE
Produced by Stevie J. and Puffy
Puffy Big understood how important the Midwest and the South were at that time. He loved Bone Thugs. Being that he really liked melodies, he really liked Bone Thugs.
Krayzie Bone Puff just called up one day while we were out in California, "Come by the studio tonight." So we went. As soon as we walked in, Big was like, "What y'all eating, drinking and smoking?" It was a shock how down-to-earth he was. #%%%+ used to floss in his raps big-time, but when you met him he was a real humble dude. There were a lot of things that he wanted to know about us and about our flows. He just wanted to know how we came about doing our style and how we did our vocals. He was watching us do our parts like, "Goddamn, y'all @!*$@@ are crazy."
Layzie Bone I came with a couple ounces of herb, and about 15 minutes into the session, Biggie had it in his hand [laughs]. I'm like, "This #%%%+ just gangstered me for my weed!" But I ain't say nothing because it's cool. When Biggie did our style, that's when Bone received respect for our %#$!. It was like the whole industry never gave us our Ps. But Biggie was telling us that whole night in the studio like, "Y'all just came in and laid it down so fast. Y'all @!*$@@ are amazing." He was marveling off of us. And we telling him how much love we had for him.
D. Roc That dude Layzie was passed out in the truck. Like they ordered a case of Hennessy, drinking it by themselves. He was drunker than everybody and everybody was like, "This #%%%+ is gonna *%+* up our whole night." When it was his go, I went and tapped on the window. His face was on the glass-slobbing, knocked out. I tapped. He walked straight out the car, into the booth, did his verse in one take and went straight back into the joint and passed out again.
Stevie J. After Bone Thugs went in there and ripped it, Big took it home for a minute. He was like, "I ain't laying mine. I got to wait. This style ain't what I'm used to."
Lil' Cease The Bone Thugs %#$!, nobody could be in the room [when Big was recording his verse] for that. He really wanted to sit there and master that %#$!, 'cause he knew he was about to do something different, and whatever came out the studio was gonna be so, so new.

I would give ANYTHING to somehow tag along for that recording session

It was the fact that it was called "Ten Crack Commandments." Chuck's not into that. He doesn't want his voice affiliated with anything that involves drug use or drinking alcohol, sex or whatever. So they came after me and Biggie's estate, saying that basically we violated in the fact that we used him in a song that condoned drug use. I didn't look at it that way, because, to me, that record was to cats in the street. So, to wrap that up, I told him-this is after the fact that Big had passed already, and [his death] was still fresh-I told Chuck, 'cause I was on tour with him, I was like, "Yo Chuck, why don't you be easy on that? Because I feel like, why should we have to go through this when Big is dead and he's not here to defend this lawsuit. You gonna put his mother through it? I don't think that's spiritually fair." He said, "You know what? If it gets out of hand with everything, I'll dead it." I said, "OK, fine." He never deaded it. I found Chuck one day around my neighborhood that I live in now. He happened to tap me on my shoulder, he was with his kids and I got into it with him a little bit. I never spoke to him again and I started kind of having a little hate for him to a certain degree. I felt like he was a hypocrite. I would never sue a dead man, especially Big. I thought that was spiritually wrong, especially for what he stands for. Because I love Chuck D as a lyricist, a performer and a writer and as the head of Public Enemy. I love what he represents, and I felt like that was a foul on the fact that he couldn't let a man's death override a lawsuit. I'd rather it be all on my back than have to go sue a dead man's estate. It put a big dent in the rap game. But I saw Chuck at Jam Master Jay's wake, and we spoke and we got everything behind us now.

very interesting..... whole OP is a great read

 

[jthagreat]

Originally Posted by blacklion23

^^^Puff was talkin crazy as far as his statements about the song or on the song?

on the song. if ahh.com wwas up and running i would search it...im sure someone will vouch...let me check my itunes...

 

[dipsetgeneral]

Illmatic OP...






















Illmatic

 

[inspektahdeck]

Originally Posted by Animal Thug1539

^Yea it was from the XXL.

I think Cuban got at Big on 'Ice Water'...can anybody confirm?

When Raekwon said some thing about 'White tryin to throw bleach in my eyesight'...

right?

yeah it was and Big responded on kick in the door

 

[aka king arthur]

Bigs flow is effortless

 

[stringer bell 32]

so many damn good songs on this album, come to think of it

 

[ydbounce]

@ parts of the album being recorded in Trinidad
I love all the little facts I can gather about my ppl's island

 

[ravageent2009]

album is

but its not the greatest hip hop album ever.

all eyes on me,Illmatic,it was written,OB4CL ,ScarFace(My Homies)> Life after death

and its a double disc that sold 5 million copies its not diamond.

its not like you can go in the store like "hey i only want life after death disc one ".

you have no choice but to buy both. so how can you possibly agree with its so called "diamond status"

 

[deuce king]

It's a great album, no doubt about that, but it's not the BEST hip hop album to date.

 

[daytona 5000]

Originally Posted by The Takeover

Didn't read but Ready To Die >>>> LAD
and best hip hop album of all time goes to Illmatic IMO.

Cosign 100000000%

 

[jpioneer]

Originally Posted by DAYTONA 5000

Originally Posted by The Takeover

Didn't read but Ready To Die >>>> LAD
and best hip hop album of all time goes to Illmatic IMO.

Cosign 100000000%

Me three.

 

[iknowrap]

Life After Death was just to raw man....I bought Born Again and was acting like I never heard the verses before...thats how hard BIG was spitting on this album

I put it like this from 1997 thru 1999...there was not an album better than this...if u liked one more than this cool, but if there is one u think is lyricallyn musically better...let me know

2000-2009....take the best rap/hip-hop album from this decade, which means it was better than the best albums released each year in the decade and compare itto LAD...i think its gonna be pretty hard to find one to match it...musically maybe, but lyrics, content i dunno.

U cant really knock Illmatic...but Life After Death just had to much ammo to ignore and be like Illmatic was the most complete album of all time imo....

U put Illmatic and Reasonable Doubt together....u get Life After Death...maybe im reachin lol

 

[d723]

Sorry, but...

> Life After Death

In EVERY way.

 

[gone in 60 seconds]

Originally Posted by Deuce King

It's a great album, no doubt about that, but it's not the BEST hip hop album to date.

 

[nocomment6]

I like ready to die better. but good album, one of the best.

 

[diceloveme]

Originally Posted by D723

Sorry, but...

> Life After Death

In EVERY way.

Dre and Big Boi Dont even believe that.

 

[thekingofva]

Life After Death is the best hip-hop album since 1997 but it isn't even Biggies best album. The best hip hop album to me is "Doggystyle" or"ATLiens" that's just my personal preference.

 

[MajinZuub]

I LOVE this album and it's a classic....
But I can't say it's the best hip-hop album to date. There's a handful of albums where all the tracks are awesome and you listen to them all theway through; I personally cannot get down with Nasty Boy.

 

[mathilda lando]

Originally Posted by diceloveme

Originally Posted by D723

Sorry, but...

> Life After Death

In EVERY way.

Dre and Big Boi Dont even believe that.

Aquemini is right up there with the upper echelon albums.

 

[dfabix]

I could go for best double disc of all time.