Breaking Bad Thread - "El Camino" - A Breaking Bad Movie on Netflix 10/11

[swendro]

so in the first scene where the russian wipes blood off his boot...were they just coming from murking deckland & co or was that for something else?

From killing Declan. He's not Russian though lol.

 

[coldcity]

so in the first scene where the russian wipes blood off his boot...were they just coming from murking deckland & co or was that for something else?

From killing Declan. He's not Russian though lol.

ok thats what i thought but i ran out the room for a few min's & didnt kno if i missed anything

not russian but you knew exactly who i was talking about

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

I also want to say Jesse's parents moved. If not that they and Jesse made it clear they don't want anything to do with each other anymore, especially after Jesse bought back his aunt's house from them for pennies fair market value.

Why are the "Europeans" murking everybody though? There has to be a legit reason.

i think they could get involved if something were to happen to todd, but i dont necessarily see it happening esp this close to the end it would feel like a cop out to have a super army just come thru and wipe everything.

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up

Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

 

[akajae]

I really hope Jesse doesn't ruin the show for me...

dude needs to get got ASAP...A @#$%* SAP!

dude is marshmallow soft

 

[hand2handking]

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up

Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

but they were bout be the real swindlers, buying the house and selling it back knowing it was a meth house

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up


Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

but they were bout be the real swindlers, buying the house and selling it back knowing it was a meth house

I honestly don't think a basement being a meth lab is that bad I dunno, maybe this show has jaded me.

Once you get the smell out, which is easy, it's all good.

 

[coldcity]

@ "fair market value" Using that Saul slick talk. They got swindled. It aint even fair that the person that devalued the home gets to get it back for cheap after they paid to fix it up


Yeah I'd feel it was a bit cheap to bring the parents in now for anything serious. Maybe just another tense talk. Nothing like them being involved. I think it'd be too cold if Walt held them hostage or something.

but they were bout be the real swindlers, buying the house and selling it back knowing it was a meth house

exactly ... they tried to get over & failed

 

[hand2handking]

i think thats the point is that its not all good because those fumes will seep into the walls and prolly eventually contaminate the pipes too.  im not an expert, but i think saul or walt mentioned something about unknown dangers of living in a meth contaminated house beyond just the smell. 

i think thats whats all the tents were for too in the fumigation scheme, in addition to the smell it was so the that foundations of the house wouldnt be affected.

i dunno maybe its just me, but i likened it to something like asbestos.

 

[Sir San Diego]

That episode was intense.

Jesse is a *****. He chose the life and now wants to cry about it? It's his fault that he got manipulated. Homie thought he was street smart and got outsmarted by his old teacher and now he wants to fake tough it for Brock? Lil' dude is alive, just move on with your life. You had enough cash to dip out, but you wanna **** the plan up because you have a soft spot for kids?

Ugh. :x

Walt gave him a chance to get lost too. He hugged him on some "yeah, you're right I would murk you so dip because I still got love for your dumb ***."

Jesse never learns.

 

[coldcity]

That episode was intense.

Jesse is a *****. He chose the life and now wants to cry about it? It's his fault that he got manipulated. Homie thought he was street smart and got outsmarted by his old teacher and now he wants to fake tough it for Brock? Lil' dude is alive, just move on with your life. You had enough cash to dip out, but you wanna **** the plan up because you have a soft spot for kids?

Ugh. :x

Walt gave him a chance to get lost too. He hugged him on some "yeah, you're right I would murk you so dip because I still got love for your dumb ***."

Jesse never learns.

i was waiting on walt to wip out the shank & end him during that hug...damn you walt & your "feelings"

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage? Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

 

[coldcity]

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage? Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

exterior tent was for fumigation...smaller tent was for cooking...all the houses were fume blasted after the cooks were done which is what we saw in the 1st run thru(turning on a big machine while leaving)

 

[hand2handking]

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage?

Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

yea true i guess its not that bad but still i wouldnt want to buy a house knowing that it was a meth lab

 

[bence23]

i'm excited because this is the first time i'll be watching one of the GOAT shows end live..never saw sopranos and the wire when they were on the air.

 

[hybridsoldier23]

My theory has been that Walt has the M60 to save Jesse.

-Walt has bounced and got his "new" life from Saul and was living in New Hampshire
-Jesse gets kidnapped or forced into working for Lydia and doing the cook to achieve better purity (It's possible Jesse is taken to force Walt into cooking again)
-The ricin is for Todd. See the opening to this episode where there is a close-up of Todd lighting up a cig,
-Walt shows up with the M60 ready to ride on Todd and his crew trying to save Jesse.
-Walt saves Jesse but is deathly injured in the process.

-I have no idea what happened to Hank or Walt's family but I want to see Skylar eat it.

 

[big j 33]

In a podcast interview with Vince Gilligan that aired some time last year (I’ve been trying to recall the exact one but have so far failed), I kinda-sorta recall Gilligan saying that something from the opening scene of the pilot episode would come back into play in the show. I can’t help but wonder if the mask isn’t that thing. A big deal was made of it back then — multiple shots of it were shown over multiple episodes — and it has never resurfaced since, as far as I can remember. I even seem to recall Hank having it sent to the FBI’s forensic labs in Virginia for testing. I can’t help but wonder if this won’t become the piece of hard physical evidence Hank needs to nail Walt. I guess we’ll soon find out.

Read more: http://www.uproxx.com/tv/2013/08/breaking-bad-discussion-table-side-guacamole/2/#ixzz2d7FmWCuZ

I've forgotten about the mask... I wonder if that comes back into play.

For those still uncertain... Sepinwall has a lengthy breakdown of Jesse's realization.

1)In "End Times," to get Jesse back on his side in the war against Gus, Walt arranges for Huell to steal the cigarette pack with the ricin cigarette out of Jesse's pocket and replace it with a different pack. Saul calls Jesse to his office on shaky reasons, and Huell pats him down in a way that gets Jesse's attention. Walt doesn't use the ricin to poison Brock, but rather a lily of the valley plant that will have a similar but less dangerous effect on the boy.

2)When Jesse hears that Brock has been poisoned, he realizes that the ricin cigarette is missing, then (correctly) puts two and two together that Huell stole it, on Walt's orders. He storms into Walt's house and threatens to kill him for poisoning Brock; Walt convinces Jesse that it was Gus, not him, who wanted to hurt the boy — specifically so Jesse would come to this conclusion and murder Walt for him — and that Tyrus must have lifted the cigarettes from Jesse's locker at the Super Lab. Jesse accepts that Mr. White would never hurt a child, whereas Gus has a history of hurting children, and lets go of the theory about Huell.

3)Doctors later figure out that Brock was poisoned by a lily of the valley, not ricin, making Jesse doubt Walt's theory about Gus manipulating Jesse into shooting Walt, and leaving him to wonder what really happened to the ricin cigarette. Walt stages a phony search of Jesse's house and plants a fake cigarette (containing salt, not ricin) inside Jesse's Roomba. None of this sits well with Jesse, but he once again believes Mr. White.

4)Over the course of season 5, starting around the murder of Drew Sharp, Jesse has begun to realize that he shouldn't believe anything Walt says. Walt claims to be broken up over Drew's death, then whistles while he works. Walt claims that Mike left town alive, when Jesse knows that Walt would've never taken out Mike's guys unless Mike was dead. Walt gives Jesse a whole song and dance about how leaving town will be good for Jesse, when Jesse knows that it will be even better for Walt.

5)Having been primed to disbelieve any word out of Walt's mouth, Jesse goes to Saul's office, lights up a joint and gets scolded by Saul, who knows his relocation expert won't pick up anyone who's high. Saul orders Huell to again pick Jesse's pocket to get rid of the marijuana.

6)At the pick-up spot, a nervous Jesse reaches for his pot, and can't find it. He frantically checks all his pockets, but all he finds is a cigarette pack. Staring at the cigarette pack, and realizing Huell dipped into his pocket without him noticing, Jesse realizes that his first suspicions about the ricin cigarette were correct, and that Mr. White was manipulating him into turning against Gus, endangering Brock's life in the process.

That the ricin wasn't actually used on Brock is beside the point. Jesse knew from the beginning that Huell had picked his pocket, and that he must have done it on Mr. White's orders. He has been thinking about this often in the months since it happened — far more often and more intensely than those of us watching the show have, and in a more compressed time period. When he realizes Huell picked his pocket, and stares at another crumpled cigarette pack, everything clicks into place about the events of "End Times" — including how convenient it was that this terrible thing happened to Brock, which turned Jesse back into Walt's ally, at the exact moment Walt needed an ally against Gus — and he goes on the warpath against Saul, Huell and that ******* Mr. White.

You may disagree with whether Jesse would have put all the pieces together like that, but that's what happened.

Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-wa...nfessions-master-thespian#XIHbJc7rALg3AuJR.99

 

[franchise3]

The last two posts above me.

 

[big j 33]

My theory has been that Walt has the M60 to save Jesse.

-Walt has bounced and got his "new" life from Saul and was living in New Hampshire
-Jesse gets kidnapped or forced into working for Lydia and doing the cook to achieve better purity (It's possible Jesse is taken to force Walt into cooking again)
-The ricin is for Todd. See the opening to this episode where there is a close-up of Todd lighting up a cig,
-Walt shows up with the M60 ready to ride on Todd and his crew trying to save Jesse.
-Walt saves Jesse but is deathly injured in the process.

-I have no idea what happened to Hank or Walt's family but I want to see Skylar eat it.

The ricin was never meant to be smoked, though... you ingest it in food or drink. I never thought Jesse was at risk of accidentally smoking it like people kept saying. The person trying to smoke that cigarette would probably know something was wrong with it.

 

[big j 33]

These might have been posted already...

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

 

[jordanxi45]

That episode was intense.

Jesse is a *****. He chose the life and now wants to cry about it? It's his fault that he got manipulated. Homie thought he was street smart and got outsmarted by his old teacher and now he wants to fake tough it for Brock? Lil' dude is alive, just move on with your life. You had enough cash to dip out, but you wanna **** the plan up because you have a soft spot for kids?

Ugh. :x

Walt gave him a chance to get lost too. He hugged him on some "yeah, you're right I would murk you so dip because I still got love for your dumb ***."

Jesse never learns.

THIS!!!

Jesse needs to go...

Don't ever bite the hand that feeds you.

 

[x Buddha Bless x]

Watching the ep again

Something hit me though, when did Walt quit being a teacher? or has he been on sabbatical/sick leave cuz of cancer since the last time he taught a class and the school principal was at his party?

Well I'm not an expert either so I don't know about the effects of meth fumes on a house but I thought the tent for the fumigation cover was for the regular fumigation process cuz most houses being fumigates have tents. It was just added help for the meth cooking. The mini tent was for the meth cooking as per usual. When I think about it I'm not even sure they ever fumigated those houses. Plenty scenes where they left the lab to watch tv and eat.

Anyway, if living in a meth house poses a risk to ppl living in it I guess that means Jesse has brain damage? Son been living in their for over a year since they last cooked in there.

exterior tent was for fumigation...smaller tent was for cooking...all the houses were fume blasted after the cooks were done which is what we saw in the 1st run thru(turning on a big machine while leaving)

The small things. I overlooked that.

 

[jayhood23]

I can see Lydia being shot in the face since that her big gripe with Mike cuz she didn't want her daughter to see her that way.

 

[big j 33]

From reddit

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

It's obviously a joke, but some people are seriously coming up with things like this

 

[coolnclutch]

I really don't understand the hate for Jesse. Walt has been a cancer to Jesse since the day they saw each other again in the pilot episode. Let's not forget that Walt is the one who blackmailed Jesse into cooking for him from the first day. It's always been impossible for Jesse to leave the game...every time Walt has had to manipulate him and bring him back for Walt's own good. Yes Jesse has done a lot of dumb things too but in the end, it all comes down his connection to Walt. Sure Jesse would've just been a low-life running around in the streets but he'd be no worse than Badger, Skinny Pete, and Combo. He might not have had all the money but he'd have his old life and would've been happy.

You guys keep saying "Jesse is soft, he's not made out for this, etc." Well who do you think is the guy that has kept pushing him towards that life, forcing him to go through all those things that he's never been capable of handling? Jesse knows Walt is a fraud now...Mike did more for Jesse as a real mentor/father figure in 1 season than Walt in 4 seasons

 

[harlemtothebronx]

I really don't understand the hate for Jesse. Walt has been a cancer to Jesse since the day they saw each other again in the pilot episode.