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Here's another from today from PFT:
Brett Favre retired? Maybe not. Favre seeking trade
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^ Which is why i originally said we need to be real here and there probably is a decent chance Cook WAS shopping Favre around. The main issue to me was notwhether Favre was indeed going to come back for another year, rather it was his agent just shopping him. And as we now have learned, more than once source issaying Cook indeed did that. Hell between that as well as his agent's comments the day he retired you would think Brett would either put a leash on the guyor get rid of him.
And I also am in the camp that would never be surprised to hear him coming back to play somewhere.
And I also am in the camp that would never be surprised to hear him coming back to play somewhere.
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^ And I definitely agree with you about his agent now; I mean, it's pretty crystal clear. Either his agent is shopping him around... OORRR... a bunch ofrandom sources secretly met and decided that they could convince the public that his agent was shopping him around if they really stayed in sync with theirstories.
But I would be surprised if he were to ever take another NFL snap.
But I would be surprised if he were to ever take another NFL snap.
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I don't think we'll see him again.
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More reports of him coming back
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^ From who? Him? His agent? People that talked to him or his agent? People who claimed to talk to him or his agent? People who talked to someone who apparentlytalked to someone related to someone sort of connected to someone who's married to the agent's second cousin?
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It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming back
It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming back
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henz0:
It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming back
"If Rogers was hurt, it would be hard to watch that. I could be tempted" = "I wouldn't mind coming back"?
This might just be a matter of opinions, because if you think that what he said means 'I wouldn't mind coming back', then we just disagree. I tookwhat he said along with what he said before, and still see no reason to believe he's coming back.
He said that he could be tempted, not that he wants to return.
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"If Rogers was hurt, it would be hard to watch that. I could be tempted" = "I wouldn't mind coming back"?Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
henz0:
It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming back
This might just be a matter of opinions, because if you think that what he said means 'I wouldn't mind coming back', then we just disagree. I took what he said along with what he said before, and still see no reason to believe he's coming back.
He said that he could be tempted, not that he wants to return.
Read between the lines a little bit though. Why would he say anything to that effect if he had no intentions of it being recieved that way. That wouldjust be foolish on his part. If you are 100% content with being retired you dont make ambiguous comments hinting at coming back point blank.
Does it mean he is coming back? No. Does it make you scratch your head when he is surrounded by rumors that his retirement is a sham and your career has becomesynonymous with not knowing when to quit? YES.
Shoot even MJ said there was a 99.9% chance he wasnt coming back and everyone knew that meant there is a 100% chance I am coming back.
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Henz0's favorite quarterback is Vick so the only way he'll respect Favre is if he kills some dogs or goes to jail.
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The haters need to fall back. Favre is on the verge of pulling an MJ... and how many people were complaining about that? Oh wait you all ride him like he'syour Dad. If your team is one of the ones we trampled en route to the NFC championship, sorry about that.
ONE reporter said he HEARD Bus Cook was RESEARCHING whether there was interest from other teams. That's a lot of "if's".
Favre going to another team would split Wisconsin in two. It won't happen.
Then he goes and says stuff like this
ONE reporter said he HEARD Bus Cook was RESEARCHING whether there was interest from other teams. That's a lot of "if's".
Favre going to another team would split Wisconsin in two. It won't happen.
Then he goes and says stuff like this
"I guess the best response would be, right now no," Favre said about whether he would consider coming back.
Favre needs to just stop talking to the media. He's sobad at interviews.
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henz0:
It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming backme:
"If Rogers was hurt, it would be hard to watch that. I could be tempted" = "I wouldn't mind coming back"?
This might just be a matter of opinions, because if you think that what he said means 'I wouldn't mind coming back', then we just disagree. I took what he said along with what he said before, and still see no reason to believe he's coming back.
He said that he could be tempted, not that he wants to return.theone2401:
Read between the lines a little bit though. Why would he say anything to that effect if he had no intentions of it being recieved that way. That would just be foolish on his part. If you are 100% content with being retired you dont make ambiguous comments hinting at coming back point blank.
Does it mean he is coming back? No. Does it make you scratch your head when he is surrounded by rumors that his retirement is a sham and your career has become synonymous with not knowing when to quit? YES.
Shoot even MJ said there was a 99.9% chance he wasnt coming back and everyone knew that meant there is a 100% chance I am coming back.
So because he went through the retirement speech, that means that from now on, he should only say things like "I love not not playingfootball. It's the most wonderful thing ever. I hate the NFL. I hate every NFL team. I am probably never going to touch a football again. Ever."?
He's not allowed to think to himself, "Damn, did I make the right decision?"
Heck, I do that a half dozen times a day.
I think there are many that already hated him before, and they're reading into things too much so that you can they can use his 'return' againsthim, that way even if he never, EVER comes back, they can still say 'But he SAID he would, so I hate him even more for that!', even though he neversaid he would come back.
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^ Right, but Buss =/= Favre.
Like I said, I think there are many that already hated him before, and they're reading into things too much so that you can they can use his'return' against him, that way even if he never, EVER comes back, they can still say 'But he SAID he would, so I hate him even more for that!',even though he never said he would come back.
Like I said, I think there are many that already hated him before, and they're reading into things too much so that you can they can use his'return' against him, that way even if he never, EVER comes back, they can still say 'But he SAID he would, so I hate him even more for that!',even though he never said he would come back.
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Just go away Favre. We hate you.
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^ He must have doodoo'ed on ur fav team throughout his career huh?
Ill be surprised if he comes back but id welcome it with open arms. Even thoigh im kinda ready for the Arog era to begin.
Ill be surprised if he comes back but id welcome it with open arms. Even thoigh im kinda ready for the Arog era to begin.
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Originally Posted by 23ska909red02
henz0:
It was a direct quote from him.. Someting along the lines of if aaron rogers gets hurt he wouldnt mind coming backme:
"If Rogers was hurt, it would be hard to watch that. I could be tempted" = "I wouldn't mind coming back"?
This might just be a matter of opinions, because if you think that what he said means 'I wouldn't mind coming back', then we just disagree. I took what he said along with what he said before, and still see no reason to believe he's coming back.
He said that he could be tempted, not that he wants to return.theone2401:
Read between the lines a little bit though. Why would he say anything to that effect if he had no intentions of it being recieved that way. That would just be foolish on his part. If you are 100% content with being retired you dont make ambiguous comments hinting at coming back point blank.
Does it mean he is coming back? No. Does it make you scratch your head when he is surrounded by rumors that his retirement is a sham and your career has become synonymous with not knowing when to quit? YES.
Shoot even MJ said there was a 99.9% chance he wasnt coming back and everyone knew that meant there is a 100% chance I am coming back.
So because he went through the retirement speech, that means that from now on, he should only say things like "I love not not playing football. It's the most wonderful thing ever. I hate the NFL. I hate every NFL team. I am probably never going to touch a football again. Ever."?
He's not allowed to think to himself, "Damn, did I make the right decision?"
Heck, I do that a half dozen times a day.
I think there are many that already hated him before, and they're reading into things too much so that you can they can use his 'return' against him, that way even if he never, EVER comes back, they can still say 'But he SAID he would, so I hate him even more for that!', even though he never said he would come back.
No, not at all. you missed my point entirely. I said if you say things like he said and you dont expect SOME people to interpret them as "Iwant to come back" then he is foolish.
You make it seem like his comments arent ambiguous AT ALL when they clearly are to a certain extent. There are plenty of players who have retired and they say"I am done, I will never play again" and guess what? they usually dont. You know what type of players come out of retirement? Players who say thingslike "Yea maybe id come back"
I dont hate the man and couldnt care less what he does but his comments make me scratch my head and I think they should make anyone who knows him, his history,and his situation.
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^ Oh, I definitely agree that there is some level of ambiguity to his comments, no doubt. On top of his ambiguous comments, we have the fact that he stillhasn't submitted his retirement papers.
No, I'm not saying people are ******ed for thinking he might come back; I'm saying people that say 'I hate you. Go away!' had to have hated himto begin with, because they're using this as fodder to fuel more hate for him coming back... when he hasn't even done that yet.
Taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping him around...taking all of those things and saying, 'Yep! He's coming back! I told you all!' is presumptuous and premature.
Taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping him around...taking all of those things and saying, 'Yep! He's coming back! I told you all! Freaking crap, I hate him so much more now. GO AWAY!' ishaterifically presumptuous and premature.
Now... taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping himaround... taking all of those things and saying, 'Well heck yeah there's a possibility he's going to play again!', I never said anythingagainst that line of reasoning. Heck, I wouldn't be completely shocked MYSELF if he played again. I don't personally THINK he will play again (becauseI think he meant it when he retired), but I wouldn't be surprised he did (because he hasn't submitted his papers, his agent was shopping him around,and he said he could be tempted).
I'm just not going to take a 'maybe' and act like it's a definite.
I'm not going to take 'Maybe he will play again' and act like it's 'Yep, he's back!'
You know?
No, I'm not saying people are ******ed for thinking he might come back; I'm saying people that say 'I hate you. Go away!' had to have hated himto begin with, because they're using this as fodder to fuel more hate for him coming back... when he hasn't even done that yet.
Taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping him around...taking all of those things and saying, 'Yep! He's coming back! I told you all!' is presumptuous and premature.
Taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping him around...taking all of those things and saying, 'Yep! He's coming back! I told you all! Freaking crap, I hate him so much more now. GO AWAY!' ishaterifically presumptuous and premature.
Now... taking his ambiguous comments and taking the fact the fact that he hasn't submitted his retirement papers and taking his agent shopping himaround... taking all of those things and saying, 'Well heck yeah there's a possibility he's going to play again!', I never said anythingagainst that line of reasoning. Heck, I wouldn't be completely shocked MYSELF if he played again. I don't personally THINK he will play again (becauseI think he meant it when he retired), but I wouldn't be surprised he did (because he hasn't submitted his papers, his agent was shopping him around,and he said he could be tempted).
I'm just not going to take a 'maybe' and act like it's a definite.
I'm not going to take 'Maybe he will play again' and act like it's 'Yep, he's back!'
You know?