Does President Obama Care About High Unemployment?

[deuce king]

Rex, all of that being said you still were against the auto bailout as you said, which means you were for high unemployment yourself and in favor of a large portion of the Mid-West being out of work.  You wanted people out of work because of your viewpoint.  So again, the question needs to be asked do you youself care about high unemployment??  Taking this example of the auto bailout we can clearly see that President Obama does care about unemployment.  Are/were there flaws in the auto bailout, of course, but the end result is many individuals would have been out of work due to plants closing and car suppliers going out of business thanks to your hell-bent outdated view on the "free market"  The unemployment number is already high enough, but thank the good Lord the buck didn't stop at you approving the auto bailout otherwise the unemployment number would be far worse than 9.1%. 

At the end of the day what takes months if not years to build or create can be destroyed in a matter of minutes or moments.  I myself wish we didn't have high unemployment or even a percentage of unemployment in America at all.  However, it truly is going to take time for our economy to recover and dig ourselves out of the gutter thanks to anything goes mentality that you help initiate prior to this administration .  As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day so why are folks naive to think our economy is going to bunch back instantly.  Just like when a house burns down, it takes a while for it to go up again but it can burn down to the ground in moments. 

 

[deuce king]

Rex, all of that being said you still were against the auto bailout as you said, which means you were for high unemployment yourself and in favor of a large portion of the Mid-West being out of work.  You wanted people out of work because of your viewpoint.  So again, the question needs to be asked do you youself care about high unemployment??  Taking this example of the auto bailout we can clearly see that President Obama does care about unemployment.  Are/were there flaws in the auto bailout, of course, but the end result is many individuals would have been out of work due to plants closing and car suppliers going out of business thanks to your hell-bent outdated view on the "free market"  The unemployment number is already high enough, but thank the good Lord the buck didn't stop at you approving the auto bailout otherwise the unemployment number would be far worse than 9.1%. 

At the end of the day what takes months if not years to build or create can be destroyed in a matter of minutes or moments.  I myself wish we didn't have high unemployment or even a percentage of unemployment in America at all.  However, it truly is going to take time for our economy to recover and dig ourselves out of the gutter thanks to anything goes mentality that you help initiate prior to this administration .  As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day so why are folks naive to think our economy is going to bunch back instantly.  Just like when a house burns down, it takes a while for it to go up again but it can burn down to the ground in moments. 

 

[kramer]

Unemployment is almost to his benefit. All those unemployed people would much rather see a democrat in office over a republican, and since he's there they will support him and he gets reelected

 

[kramer]

Unemployment is almost to his benefit. All those unemployed people would much rather see a democrat in office over a republican, and since he's there they will support him and he gets reelected

 

[lazybonejone]

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

I honestly believe the unemployment percentage will never go back to what it once was. With that being said i do believe that Obama cares about High unemployment but is not approaching it in a constructive way.

Rex since you brought up the subject why don't you share your thoughts on how to fix or should i say decrease our current high unemployment

Look at other first world countries.  Unemployment is always above 10%, but they have a faux-socialism in place with higher taxes.  
Why is it so hard to understand that the government does not care about the lower-class, and the middle-class?

Politics is a chess game, the effects of foreign policy in the early 2000s is finally affecting the commoners.

While we focus on this unemployment issue, the people in control are many steps ahead.

I have very cynical view of the government, but I love the US.  

"Love it, or leave it"

 

[lazybonejone]

Originally Posted by CryingFreemancoa

I honestly believe the unemployment percentage will never go back to what it once was. With that being said i do believe that Obama cares about High unemployment but is not approaching it in a constructive way.

Rex since you brought up the subject why don't you share your thoughts on how to fix or should i say decrease our current high unemployment

Look at other first world countries.  Unemployment is always above 10%, but they have a faux-socialism in place with higher taxes.  
Why is it so hard to understand that the government does not care about the lower-class, and the middle-class?

Politics is a chess game, the effects of foreign policy in the early 2000s is finally affecting the commoners.

While we focus on this unemployment issue, the people in control are many steps ahead.

I have very cynical view of the government, but I love the US.  

"Love it, or leave it"

 

[crcballer55]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by lazybonejone

Number one of the dude's list is getting re-elected.

 Exactly so why would any President of the United States including this current President not care about High Unemployment?  

He should care dearly since FDR was the only president to be reelected with a high unemployment rate.

Rex-  Let's also not forget that Chrysler still isn't out of debt yet.  They simply paid back the government with new debt that they refinanced through the banks.  In addition, Fiat (Chrysler's new owner) wants the government to give them more "incentives" to keep the company afloat.  Chrysler has been in trouble so much during the past 30+ years that I really don't see it truly recovering anytime soon.  Jeep hasn't been a relevant SUV company for the past decade and Dodge still makes large vehicles that are geared towards men (75% of buyers).

Duece King-  If he really did care and he kept the auto worker jobs, why then did the administration force independent dealerships to close?  They have no direct relevance to the production of cars other than buying them directly from the manufacturers and providing service and loyalty to current and future buyers.

 

[crcballer55]

Originally Posted by SunDOOBIE

Originally Posted by lazybonejone

Number one of the dude's list is getting re-elected.

 Exactly so why would any President of the United States including this current President not care about High Unemployment?  

He should care dearly since FDR was the only president to be reelected with a high unemployment rate.

Rex-  Let's also not forget that Chrysler still isn't out of debt yet.  They simply paid back the government with new debt that they refinanced through the banks.  In addition, Fiat (Chrysler's new owner) wants the government to give them more "incentives" to keep the company afloat.  Chrysler has been in trouble so much during the past 30+ years that I really don't see it truly recovering anytime soon.  Jeep hasn't been a relevant SUV company for the past decade and Dodge still makes large vehicles that are geared towards men (75% of buyers).

Duece King-  If he really did care and he kept the auto worker jobs, why then did the administration force independent dealerships to close?  They have no direct relevance to the production of cars other than buying them directly from the manufacturers and providing service and loyalty to current and future buyers.

 

[destination kicks]

Originally Posted by Deuce King

Rex, all of that being said you still were against the auto bailout as you said, which means you were for high unemployment yourself and in favor of a large portion of the Mid-West being out of work.  You wanted people out of work because of your viewpoint.  So again, the question needs to be asked do you youself care about high unemployment??  Taking this example of the auto bailout we can clearly see that President Obama does care about unemployment.  Are/were there flaws in the auto bailout, of course, but the end result is many individuals would have been out of work due to plants closing and car suppliers going out of business thanks to your hell-bent outdated view on the "free market"  The unemployment number is already high enough, but thank the good Lord the buck didn't stop at you approving the auto bailout otherwise the unemployment number would be far worse than 9.1%. 

At the end of the day what takes months if not years to build or create can be destroyed in a matter of minutes or moments.  I myself wish we didn't have high unemployment or even a percentage of unemployment in America at all.  However, it truly is going to take time for our economy to recover and dig ourselves out of the gutter thanks to anything goes mentality that you help initiate prior to this administration .  As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day so why are folks naive to think our economy is going to bunch back instantly.  Just like when a house burns down, it takes a while for it to go up again but it can burn down to the ground in moments. 

I don't want to put words in Rex's mouth, but I don't think Rex is for High Unemployment, rather he's against employment that serves an artificially created and controlled market that goes against the laws of Supply and Demand. 

  

 

[destination kicks]

Originally Posted by Deuce King

Rex, all of that being said you still were against the auto bailout as you said, which means you were for high unemployment yourself and in favor of a large portion of the Mid-West being out of work.  You wanted people out of work because of your viewpoint.  So again, the question needs to be asked do you youself care about high unemployment??  Taking this example of the auto bailout we can clearly see that President Obama does care about unemployment.  Are/were there flaws in the auto bailout, of course, but the end result is many individuals would have been out of work due to plants closing and car suppliers going out of business thanks to your hell-bent outdated view on the "free market"  The unemployment number is already high enough, but thank the good Lord the buck didn't stop at you approving the auto bailout otherwise the unemployment number would be far worse than 9.1%. 

At the end of the day what takes months if not years to build or create can be destroyed in a matter of minutes or moments.  I myself wish we didn't have high unemployment or even a percentage of unemployment in America at all.  However, it truly is going to take time for our economy to recover and dig ourselves out of the gutter thanks to anything goes mentality that you help initiate prior to this administration .  As the saying goes, Rome wasn't built in a day so why are folks naive to think our economy is going to bunch back instantly.  Just like when a house burns down, it takes a while for it to go up again but it can burn down to the ground in moments. 

I don't want to put words in Rex's mouth, but I don't think Rex is for High Unemployment, rather he's against employment that serves an artificially created and controlled market that goes against the laws of Supply and Demand. 

  

 

[rashi]

The same people who support the Bailouts are probably the same people who opposed bailing out of the Banks, which is stupid because they are the same thing just different industry.



Unemployment and poverty are created by government.

 

[rashi]

The same people who support the Bailouts are probably the same people who opposed bailing out of the Banks, which is stupid because they are the same thing just different industry.



Unemployment and poverty are created by government.

 

[spacejam23s]

What has obama done in his 4 years of office? People should have been doing things since before Clinton. You cant blame one president for something many of the presidents did as a whole. There has been an ongoing lack of care for the people since the end of Regan's time in office.

 

[spacejam23s]

What has obama done in his 4 years of office? People should have been doing things since before Clinton. You cant blame one president for something many of the presidents did as a whole. There has been an ongoing lack of care for the people since the end of Regan's time in office.

 

[sundoobie]

Originally Posted by Kramer

Unemployment is almost to his benefit. All those unemployed people would much rather see a democrat in office over a republican, and since he's there they will support him and he gets reelected

I agree.  Obama/Democrats made sure that unemployment compensation was extended for another 13-20 months and the first $2,400 wasn't taxable in tax year 2009.  While the Republicans both in the House/Senate voted against the Reinvestment Act that included this extension of jobless benefits.  
I certainly HOPE Obama and the Democrats bring this up when the Election come about because unemployed voters should definitely remember this. 

 

[sundoobie]

Originally Posted by Kramer

Unemployment is almost to his benefit. All those unemployed people would much rather see a democrat in office over a republican, and since he's there they will support him and he gets reelected

I agree.  Obama/Democrats made sure that unemployment compensation was extended for another 13-20 months and the first $2,400 wasn't taxable in tax year 2009.  While the Republicans both in the House/Senate voted against the Reinvestment Act that included this extension of jobless benefits.  
I certainly HOPE Obama and the Democrats bring this up when the Election come about because unemployed voters should definitely remember this. 

 

[deuce king]

Duece King-  If he really did care and he kept the auto worker jobs, why then did the administration force independent dealerships to close?  They have no direct relevance to the production of cars other than buying them directly from the manufacturers and providing service and loyalty to current and future buyers.


I am not aware of the administration "forcing" independent dealerships to close.  I will look into the matter now to see for myself, if there is an article or link you can provide that states this please do so as I would appreciate it. 

I don't want to put words in Rex's mouth, but I don't think Rex is for High Unemployment, rather he's against employment that serves an artificially created and controlled market that goes against the laws of Supply and Demand. 


I understand everthing that you are saying, however the end result would still have been for car manufactures and car suppliers to be out of business, be it by an artificially created and controlled market or not.  The individual or individuals that would have been out of work are not thinking to themselves, "dam I'm out of a job but I'm glad my employment wasn't created upon an artificial and controlled market."  The average person who is out of work is just frustrated that they are out of work, bottomline.  They don't care about the in-betweens of the mattter, they just care about having a job and having income to support themselves or their family.  For some people the means justify the ends.  Going with Rex's mentality the end results for folks in the auto industry would have been for them to be laid off and added onto the unemployment number.  For others or President Obama in particular the end results for folks in the auto industry was for them to stayed employed and not added onto the unemployment number.  So again, between the Rex and President Obama with this examle in mind who truly does care about high unemployment or not??      

 

[deuce king]

Duece King-  If he really did care and he kept the auto worker jobs, why then did the administration force independent dealerships to close?  They have no direct relevance to the production of cars other than buying them directly from the manufacturers and providing service and loyalty to current and future buyers.


I am not aware of the administration "forcing" independent dealerships to close.  I will look into the matter now to see for myself, if there is an article or link you can provide that states this please do so as I would appreciate it. 

I don't want to put words in Rex's mouth, but I don't think Rex is for High Unemployment, rather he's against employment that serves an artificially created and controlled market that goes against the laws of Supply and Demand. 


I understand everthing that you are saying, however the end result would still have been for car manufactures and car suppliers to be out of business, be it by an artificially created and controlled market or not.  The individual or individuals that would have been out of work are not thinking to themselves, "dam I'm out of a job but I'm glad my employment wasn't created upon an artificial and controlled market."  The average person who is out of work is just frustrated that they are out of work, bottomline.  They don't care about the in-betweens of the mattter, they just care about having a job and having income to support themselves or their family.  For some people the means justify the ends.  Going with Rex's mentality the end results for folks in the auto industry would have been for them to be laid off and added onto the unemployment number.  For others or President Obama in particular the end results for folks in the auto industry was for them to stayed employed and not added onto the unemployment number.  So again, between the Rex and President Obama with this examle in mind who truly does care about high unemployment or not??      

 

[daantimpire]

every month for the past 15 months the unemployment rate has dropped
what do you call that .. and how fast do you want it fixed?
know the facts BEFORE you write a long essay on a bunch of nonsense

rome wasn't built in one day

 

[daantimpire]

every month for the past 15 months the unemployment rate has dropped
what do you call that .. and how fast do you want it fixed?
know the facts BEFORE you write a long essay on a bunch of nonsense

rome wasn't built in one day

 

[essential1]

Wow and I thought I've heard/seen stupid questions before...

 

[essential1]

Wow and I thought I've heard/seen stupid questions before...

 

[rashi]

For others or President Obama in particular the end results for folks in the auto industry was for them to stayed employed and not added onto the unemployment number.  So again, between the Rex and President Obama with this examle in mind who truly does care about high unemployment or not??      


Where was everyone elses "Bailout"? Are the people in the auto industry more important than other people in other industries?

 

[rashi]

For others or President Obama in particular the end results for folks in the auto industry was for them to stayed employed and not added onto the unemployment number.  So again, between the Rex and President Obama with this examle in mind who truly does care about high unemployment or not??      


Where was everyone elses "Bailout"? Are the people in the auto industry more important than other people in other industries?

 

[nostrandave68]

I mean seriously you have to be this verbose?
You should know a president can only do so much in terms of economic growth, the FED controls monetary policy the key mechanism to creating growth. You can give all the tax breaks you want and lower capital gains and etc and businesses still won't reinvest in human capital and if they do its in another country where labor is much cheaper. People don't educate themselves and see that alot of these corporations pay WAYYYY below the capital gains percentage, they get caught up in businesses are heavily taxed. Jesus its not 1980's anymore Reaganomics doesn't work but I also don't believe Kenynesian Economics works either, all of these macroeconomic theories have no merit if you have poor human capital, our education system is in shambles thats where the focus should be. How can we be a competitive society with failing students, thats where the problem lies.