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Hey guys how do converse jack purcell's run? I wear an 11 in nikes/jordans and an 11.5 in asics
- Apr 12, 2007
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Hey guys, I was cleaning out my closet and realized I purchased the Target Merona Khaki blazer and never wore it. Its a 44R and I am giving it away. PM me if interested.
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They run TTS IMO. I wear a 10 in most sneakers and they fit perfect.
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I was wondering what you fellas thought I could pair up with this shirt:
I have a khaki color blazer and was thinking it'd be good w/ that and some dark denim but didn't really know what else
I have a khaki color blazer and was thinking it'd be good w/ that and some dark denim but didn't really know what else
- Feb 25, 2004
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Just want to share this pic. Bespoke: 2nd fitting at the Armoury in Hong Kong. Not me BTW
that's looking like crack!
- Jul 6, 2002
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My hat goes off to you, sir. If my mom's friend's son didn't have a similar build to the former me, I would be offering things here too.Hey guys, I was cleaning out my closet and realized I purchased the Target Merona Khaki blazer and never wore it. Its a 44R and I am giving it away. PM me if interested.
- Apr 12, 2007
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I usually size .5 down. Go to a DSW and try some on. They fit just like Chucks.
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Hey Pinoy, my man...can you please put this up in the first post?
Introduction: While a well fitting suit should be the foundation of a man’s wardrobe, “dressing better” does not mean you have to wear suits every day. The purpose of the thread is to assist you in creating an aesthetic around classic/timeless inspired items. Fashion is fickle, it changes. Styles are forever. Ideally, we want you to develop a look you can wear 5 or 10 years from now. In addition to this thread, we want members to gain exposure via blogs, magazines, etc. to different types of styles and create a look they can be comfortable in because confidence is the best thing you can wear.
We encourage members to participate, however we do ask everyone to be respectful and keep the thread positive. Members who do not follow the protocol will be reported accordingly.
From assessing the former thread in addition to this thread, it appears that the major demographic is in the age bracket of late teens to late 20s. Given that we know who the major demographic consists of, we will focus the post around the group. This post will cover basic information that is often asked. If your question is not answered here, please feel free to make a post and ask!
Some of the members’ favorite shops include: Banana Republic, J. Crew, Zara, H&M, Uniqlo, Levi’s, Gap, Target, and Macy’s.
**If you are starting off fresh AKA redoing your entire wardrobe, we recommend starting off with colors and patterns that are versatile. You should stick with colors like blue, gray, and beige and patterns that are mundane than flamboyant such as gingham and vertical stripes (Please see below for a comprehensive of different types of patterns for shirts). While the colors of blue, gray, and beige may appear to be limiting, your choices are surprisingly vast. For example, let us use navy blue as an example. There are a plethora of hues that fall under navy blue; on one end you have a slightly deep royal tone, and on the other end, you have a very dark blue that is almost black.**
1. SUITS
Your first two suits should be navy and dark gray. What suit you should buy first? That is ultimately up to you. The reason being is that these two colors are very versatile, and can be mixed with each other to create new looks. Navy is timeless, in almost all cultures. Dark gray is versatile and close enough to black to wear to more formal events. Both look good with nearly every other color under the sun. Given our demographic, it is recommended you go with a modern 1 or 2 button jacket for the suit.
Suit sizing: Suits will come in sizes such as 38R, 40S, 44L. The first number refers to chest measurement, and the S, R, L refer to Small, Regular, Long (respectively). A 38S, 38R, and 38L will all fit the same width-wise, but the Regular will have longer sleeves than the Small, and the Long will have longer sleeves than the Regular.
If your chest is in between size, you should get one that fits you well in other places such as the shoulders, arm width, length of the jacket. You can always have a tailor take in the width of the jacket and other minor tweaks.
The traditional train of thought is that the jacket is supposed to be long enough to cover your rear, but there is actually no set length. The length of the jacket should be proportional to your height. You may want to ensure that the jacket is not too short though, or else it may seem too fashion forward, unless that is what you are going for.
If you are buying your first suit, you may want to skip functional buttons on the sleeves. This means that you can actually button/unbutton the buttons from the holes. The reason is that if you need to shorten/lengthen your sleeves, it is extremely harder with functional buttons.
For the length of the jacket’s sleeves, it is up to your preference. Some prefer the length to be just as long as their shirt sleeves so nothing show. Others prefer to have the length just cover the wrist bones so ¼ to 1 inch of the shirt under shows through. Some want a more dramatic effect with a lot showing. The following will show practically from no visibility, a bit visibility, and dramatic visibility.
No visibility: http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/BrooksBrothers/MK00005_NAVY_1?$ProductImages$
A little: http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/25269_BR6878_m?$pdp_fs418$
Dramatic: http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/BrooksBrothers/MK00006_TAN?$ProductImages$
For trousers, we want to accomplish a slim and flattering silhouette here, not skinny or baggy. To establish the look, it is best to have minimal break or no break at all. This means that you should not have excess material of your pants bunching up on your shoes/boots.
These are good:
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/91031_BR6878_m?$pdp_fs418$
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/16561_GY6480_s?$pdp_fs418$
http://i47.tinypic.com/33zd75g.jpg
This one is bad, too much material bunching on top of the shoes:
http://i45.tinypic.com/358rryq.jpg
2. SHIRTS
There are two categories here: Dress shirts and sport shirts. Dress shirts are more formal, the length is usually longer. It is long enough to cover your entire rear because it is meant to be tucked in. There are slots under the collar to insert collar stays. Use collar stays to keep your collars straight and from bending. Sport shirts are more casual, usually shorter in length which is meant to be worn untucked.
Dress shirts may come in regular sizes such as small, medium, and large. They may also come in sizes such as 14.5 x 33, 15 x 35. The first number indicates the measurement around the neck, and the second number shows the measurement from the shoulder down to the arm.
How do I know if my shirt fits properly? The sleeves should be long enough that they cover your wrist bones, but they should not be passing the meat of your palms. This is a good example of an appropriate length: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7l9sdivTA1qad1efo1_500.jpg
You also want to have a slim fitting silhouette overall. You do not want to have a spandex tight fitting shirt, or a shirt that makes you look bloated. The key is slim fitting that gives you a bit of room for movement. A good test is that the buttons on your shirt should not be prying apart when you sit down.
Something like this is most likely too tight around the width: http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/53368_GY6104_m?$pdp_fs418$
Something like this is too baggy and loose:
http://www.robbinssports.com/images/port-authority-TLS608-tall-long-sleeve-easy-care-shirt.jpg
This is a better alternative as you have a bit of fabric to allow for movement:
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/48447_BL8595_m?$pdp_fs418$
When buying a shirt, the most important aspects are to ensure that the length of the sleeves fit you properly and the circumference of the neck fits you well. You should be able to just stick a finger in between your collar and neck when all the buttons are buttoned. If the width of the sleeves is too baggy or the width of the shirt itself is too loose, a tailor can easily take care of that for you for a relatively low cost.
Accessories:
If you plan on wearing a tie with your suit, it is best to make sure that the widest point of the tie is at or near the same measurement as the lapel’s width on the jacket to stay in proportion. Example: Wearing a skinny tie with a suit that has 4” lapel will look weird because nothing is in proportion.
Example: The difference in the width of the tie and lapel is too great, looks unbalanced. http://zipperties.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/black-skinny-ties.jpg
Acceptable differences:
http://i50.tinypic.com/1zpnpkx.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/1zlviqg.jpg
You should also wear a belt that correlates with the footwear or outfit. It is understandable that sometimes you may not have a belt to match the exact shade of the shoes you are wearing. At this point, ensure that the belt either compliments the shoes or your ensemble.
Please note that other accessories such as pocket squares and lapel pins are left out intentionally as they are usually not necessary and this is an introduction post.
Introduction: While a well fitting suit should be the foundation of a man’s wardrobe, “dressing better” does not mean you have to wear suits every day. The purpose of the thread is to assist you in creating an aesthetic around classic/timeless inspired items. Fashion is fickle, it changes. Styles are forever. Ideally, we want you to develop a look you can wear 5 or 10 years from now. In addition to this thread, we want members to gain exposure via blogs, magazines, etc. to different types of styles and create a look they can be comfortable in because confidence is the best thing you can wear.
We encourage members to participate, however we do ask everyone to be respectful and keep the thread positive. Members who do not follow the protocol will be reported accordingly.
From assessing the former thread in addition to this thread, it appears that the major demographic is in the age bracket of late teens to late 20s. Given that we know who the major demographic consists of, we will focus the post around the group. This post will cover basic information that is often asked. If your question is not answered here, please feel free to make a post and ask!
Some of the members’ favorite shops include: Banana Republic, J. Crew, Zara, H&M, Uniqlo, Levi’s, Gap, Target, and Macy’s.
**If you are starting off fresh AKA redoing your entire wardrobe, we recommend starting off with colors and patterns that are versatile. You should stick with colors like blue, gray, and beige and patterns that are mundane than flamboyant such as gingham and vertical stripes (Please see below for a comprehensive of different types of patterns for shirts). While the colors of blue, gray, and beige may appear to be limiting, your choices are surprisingly vast. For example, let us use navy blue as an example. There are a plethora of hues that fall under navy blue; on one end you have a slightly deep royal tone, and on the other end, you have a very dark blue that is almost black.**
1. SUITS
Your first two suits should be navy and dark gray. What suit you should buy first? That is ultimately up to you. The reason being is that these two colors are very versatile, and can be mixed with each other to create new looks. Navy is timeless, in almost all cultures. Dark gray is versatile and close enough to black to wear to more formal events. Both look good with nearly every other color under the sun. Given our demographic, it is recommended you go with a modern 1 or 2 button jacket for the suit.
Suit sizing: Suits will come in sizes such as 38R, 40S, 44L. The first number refers to chest measurement, and the S, R, L refer to Small, Regular, Long (respectively). A 38S, 38R, and 38L will all fit the same width-wise, but the Regular will have longer sleeves than the Small, and the Long will have longer sleeves than the Regular.
If your chest is in between size, you should get one that fits you well in other places such as the shoulders, arm width, length of the jacket. You can always have a tailor take in the width of the jacket and other minor tweaks.
The traditional train of thought is that the jacket is supposed to be long enough to cover your rear, but there is actually no set length. The length of the jacket should be proportional to your height. You may want to ensure that the jacket is not too short though, or else it may seem too fashion forward, unless that is what you are going for.
If you are buying your first suit, you may want to skip functional buttons on the sleeves. This means that you can actually button/unbutton the buttons from the holes. The reason is that if you need to shorten/lengthen your sleeves, it is extremely harder with functional buttons.
For the length of the jacket’s sleeves, it is up to your preference. Some prefer the length to be just as long as their shirt sleeves so nothing show. Others prefer to have the length just cover the wrist bones so ¼ to 1 inch of the shirt under shows through. Some want a more dramatic effect with a lot showing. The following will show practically from no visibility, a bit visibility, and dramatic visibility.
No visibility: http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/BrooksBrothers/MK00005_NAVY_1?$ProductImages$
A little: http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/25269_BR6878_m?$pdp_fs418$
Dramatic: http://s7d4.scene7.com/is/image/BrooksBrothers/MK00006_TAN?$ProductImages$
For trousers, we want to accomplish a slim and flattering silhouette here, not skinny or baggy. To establish the look, it is best to have minimal break or no break at all. This means that you should not have excess material of your pants bunching up on your shoes/boots.
These are good:
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/91031_BR6878_m?$pdp_fs418$
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/16561_GY6480_s?$pdp_fs418$
http://i47.tinypic.com/33zd75g.jpg
This one is bad, too much material bunching on top of the shoes:
http://i45.tinypic.com/358rryq.jpg
2. SHIRTS
There are two categories here: Dress shirts and sport shirts. Dress shirts are more formal, the length is usually longer. It is long enough to cover your entire rear because it is meant to be tucked in. There are slots under the collar to insert collar stays. Use collar stays to keep your collars straight and from bending. Sport shirts are more casual, usually shorter in length which is meant to be worn untucked.
Dress shirts may come in regular sizes such as small, medium, and large. They may also come in sizes such as 14.5 x 33, 15 x 35. The first number indicates the measurement around the neck, and the second number shows the measurement from the shoulder down to the arm.
How do I know if my shirt fits properly? The sleeves should be long enough that they cover your wrist bones, but they should not be passing the meat of your palms. This is a good example of an appropriate length: http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7l9sdivTA1qad1efo1_500.jpg
You also want to have a slim fitting silhouette overall. You do not want to have a spandex tight fitting shirt, or a shirt that makes you look bloated. The key is slim fitting that gives you a bit of room for movement. A good test is that the buttons on your shirt should not be prying apart when you sit down.
Something like this is most likely too tight around the width: http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/53368_GY6104_m?$pdp_fs418$
Something like this is too baggy and loose:
http://www.robbinssports.com/images/port-authority-TLS608-tall-long-sleeve-easy-care-shirt.jpg
This is a better alternative as you have a bit of fabric to allow for movement:
http://s7.jcrew.com/is/image/jcrew/48447_BL8595_m?$pdp_fs418$
When buying a shirt, the most important aspects are to ensure that the length of the sleeves fit you properly and the circumference of the neck fits you well. You should be able to just stick a finger in between your collar and neck when all the buttons are buttoned. If the width of the sleeves is too baggy or the width of the shirt itself is too loose, a tailor can easily take care of that for you for a relatively low cost.
Accessories:
If you plan on wearing a tie with your suit, it is best to make sure that the widest point of the tie is at or near the same measurement as the lapel’s width on the jacket to stay in proportion. Example: Wearing a skinny tie with a suit that has 4” lapel will look weird because nothing is in proportion.
Example: The difference in the width of the tie and lapel is too great, looks unbalanced. http://zipperties.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/black-skinny-ties.jpg
Acceptable differences:
http://i50.tinypic.com/1zpnpkx.jpg
http://i47.tinypic.com/1zlviqg.jpg
You should also wear a belt that correlates with the footwear or outfit. It is understandable that sometimes you may not have a belt to match the exact shade of the shoes you are wearing. At this point, ensure that the belt either compliments the shoes or your ensemble.
Please note that other accessories such as pocket squares and lapel pins are left out intentionally as they are usually not necessary and this is an introduction post.
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- Jul 6, 2002
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PS guys, I intentionally kept the post kind of broad. I didn't want to discuss details such as materials available on suits, construction of suit, etc. because it would be overwhelming. I hope it flows nicely. I read it twice and it sounded good to me 
I also think that someone would eventually ask "does this shoe go with my suit"...at that point other members can chime in. This is why I also skipped mentioning color coordinating.
I also think that someone would eventually ask "does this shoe go with my suit"...at that point other members can chime in. This is why I also skipped mentioning color coordinating.
- Jul 18, 2012
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wj4 can you find a picture of what you mean when you talk about wearing a tie with a suit? it'd be best if you show can a picture with good tie to suit proportion and one when its out of proportion
thanks, appreciate it
thanks, appreciate it
- Jul 6, 2002
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Man, Let me try. I tried to use generic pictures because I don't want to feel like I'm picking on someone for using as a "bad" example, either from this board or any board out in the internet. Edit: Done.
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On the Converse site it says they run TTS.
- Jul 18, 2012
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my bad manMan, Let me try. I tried to use generic pictures because I don't want to feel like I'm picking on someone for using as a "bad" example, either from this board or any board out in the internet. I guess I'll use myself as an example. BRB.
- May 25, 2007
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wj4, done and done.
very well written i might add
very well written i might add
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- Jul 6, 2002
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Thanks, my man. 
I'll continue to add the footwear and other misc portions when time permits.
D
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Is it possible to go about wearing shorts and a long sleeve button down?
- Oct 31, 2009
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i was trying to get my Ksteezy on 
jcrew chambray
tank from urban outfitters
levis 511's
vans
jcrew chambray
tank from urban outfitters
levis 511's
vans
- Jul 6, 2002
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I do it. Just make sure it's not a flannel shirt that you'll be sweating your butt off though.
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7inaw1ac01rux7jzo1_1280.jpg
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m7jdx97aac1rux7jzo1_1280.jpg
6 Rings G.O.A.T.
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- Feb 11, 2006
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I can only dress better when the weather is cool..
D
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Ok ya I can't pull that off
My body type is like a bodybuilder version of you x2.5
I'm talking like this shirt and short combo
My body type is like a bodybuilder version of you x2.5
I'm talking like this shirt and short combo
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I personally soak my sleeves with sta-flo. let them air dry, press then roll. I have certain shirt that I only wear rolled and they are usually shorter than my normal shirts. This way I can get a shirt thats more fitted and I have less sleeve to roll.
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So I can wear what I just posted if I roll the sleeves up?
- Aug 8, 2005
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that shirt looks too dressy to be worn with cargo shorts
D
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what kind of botton long sleeve should I be looking at?
