ELECTION DAY 2008:........... Barack Obama, the next President of the United States of America

If Obama is elected watch the damage this moron will do
Raise capital gains tax cause of "fairness"
This guy could not pass economics 101

Half you guys on here dont even know what his policies are
"TIME FOR A CHANGE" Shaddap with that you damn socialist
 
Originally Posted by The5andonly

If Obama is elected watch the damage this moron will do
Raise capital gains tax cause of "fairness"
This guy could not pass economics 101

Half you guys on here dont even know what his policies are
"TIME FOR A CHANGE" Shaddap with that you damn socialist
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Originally Posted by The5andonly

If Obama is elected watch the damage this moron will do
Raise capital gains tax cause of "fairness"
This guy could not pass economics 101

Half you guys on here dont even know what his policies are
"TIME FOR A CHANGE" Shaddap with that you damn socialist
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Do you even know what "socialist" means? do you know what social security is? or public schools?....they're social programs.Should we get rid of those? son, you don't even know what you're talking about.
 
Obama on CNN right now spitting that ether.

"Do you know what John McCain stands for? I sure don't...he spends his time talking about me!"
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Originally Posted by The5andonly

If Obama is elected watch the damage this moron will do
Raise capital gains tax cause of "fairness"
This guy could not pass economics 101

Half you guys on here dont even know what his policies are
"TIME FOR A CHANGE" Shaddap with that you damn socialist
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Is that why The Economist and Financial Times both endorsed Obama?
 
Neither guy is an expert on the economy. With that said ,I trust Obama to put together a better economic team than McCain.
 
Originally Posted by The5andonly

If Obama is elected watch the damage this moron will do
Raise capital gains tax cause of "fairness"
This guy could not pass economics 101

Half you guys on here dont even know what his policies are
"TIME FOR A CHANGE" Shaddap with that you damn socialist
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@ you trying to sound smart
 
Just for you guys because I know you'll love it, and we all family on here so nothing like making a few people happy
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Wow what a surprise.


[h1]Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory[/h1] [h2]Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters' expectations on concerns their hopes of 'change' are unrealistic, a senior aide says[/h2]
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By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and "change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.

"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

"I won't stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy -- especially now," Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing "the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq." Obama's transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.



What a joke. Sudden financial crisis? People have been talking "Recession" for years. You didn't know this months ago?

Its ok, though. Anything else that happens he can just use the scapegoat that is George W. Bush.


Obamessiah.
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Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Wow what a surprise.


[h1]Obama Lays Plans to Kill Expectations After Election Victory[/h1]
[h2]Confident in an Election Day win, the campaign looks to lower supporters' expectations on concerns their hopes of 'change'
are unrealistic, a senior aide says
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Friday, 2008-31-305

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By Tim Reid, The Times of London

Barack
Obama's senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for
his presidency if he wins next week's election, amid concerns that many
of his euphoric supporters are harboring unrealistic hopes of what he
can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis
and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the
urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a
campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of "hope" and
"change" are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One
senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the
transition, immediately after the election, were critical, "so there's
not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair."

The aide said that Obama himself was the first to realize that expectations
risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation
lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly
issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq.

"The first hundred days is going to be important, but it's probably
going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference," he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days
how "hard" it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

"I
won't stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy --
especially now," Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday,
citing "the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in
Iraq." Obama's transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington
veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent
months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a
smooth transition should Obama emerge victorious next week.

The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided
upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.
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What a joke. Sudden financial crisis? People have been talking "Recession" for years. You didn't know this months ago?

Its ok, though. Anything else that happens he can just use the scapegoat that is George W. Bush.


Obamessiah.







You say that as if Obama himself mentioned a "sudden financial crisis". It's clear the London Times said that.

Furthermore, if anyone thought he would reverse trillions of dollars of debt, bring about universal health care, issue $4,000 credit to all college students,
transform the entire type of energy usage of America, etc.... ALL in 1year's time, then you are fooling yourself.
 
What a joke. Sudden financial crisis? People have been talking "Recession" for years. You didn't know this months ago?

Its ok, though. Anything else that happens he can just use the scapegoat that is George W. Bush.


Obamessiah.

This coming from Fede who supports a moron like McCain who said...

"fundamentals of our economy are strong"
McCain said this on the day Lehman Brothers declared bankruptcy.�
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Originally Posted by aepps20

Neither guy is an expert on the economy. With that said ,I trust Obama to put together a better economic team than McCain.
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Really...you trust Obama huh. Remember when Obama said "NO ONE MAKING LESS THAN $250,000 WILL BE AFFECTED BY MY TAX INCREASE." Now, rememberthat infomercial he just did...yea, the one he spent millions on, what was the number he threw at us in there? Oh yea, $200,000....But wait...there'smore...Prominant Democratic Governaor and Obama advisor/supporter just told America that Obama's cutoff for middle the middle class was $120,000 (but youweren't supposed to get his information yet, I'm sure Richardson has heard hell from the Obama campaign for that one) Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaI. So letssee, in less than a week we went from $250,000 to $200,000 to $120,000. Oh yea...sounds trustworthy to me.
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I mean, we can count on the econimic saavy of a guy who spends $600 million toget himself elected right? Speaking of which, do you remember when Obama promised to do just as McCain has done and accept only public donations to finance hiscampaign? Now, do you rember when he broke that promise, and just shrugged his shoulders when he was called out on it? Of course you don't, because youknow nothing about the man. He hasn't even been elected yet and is already going back on his word. Remember when liberal Democratic Presidential nomineeBill Clinton promised he wouldn't raise your taxes. Now remember when Clinton got in office, AND RAISED YOUR TAXES! Of course you don't remember that. Put this in perspective, McCain has spent $80 million on his campaign, Obama has spent $600,000,000 (thats 600 million) on his and still has only a slightlead in the polls.
 
With all the other dumb stuff in this thread, might as well post this. . . .

Bilderberg Group kingpin David Rockefeller has given the go-ahead to Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama to take the top management position in the United States government early next year, a source within the elite group said.

The Bilderbergers have been managing world affairs and political processes in countries since the 1950s. The decision to go with Obama in the U.S. came after assessing reaction to a carefully-worded trial balloon given to him to float in front of the American people. The Illinois senator had been instructed to publicly signal that he was in favor of a more equitable distribution of income in the United States.

"The opportunity came Sunday, when he met 'Joe the Plumber,'" said a Bilderberg insider, who would not give his real name and asked to be called "Ishmael" instead.

Joe the Plumber - actually Samuel J. Wurzelbacher of Toledo, Ohio - gained national attention when he complained to Obama about the candidate's plan to roll back Bush administration tax breaks for Americans earning more than $250,000 a year. Wurzelbacher said that would hurt his future business plans.

"It's not that I want to punish your success," Obama responded. "I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you, that they've got a chance for success, too. My attitude is that if the economy's good for folks from the bottom up, it's gonna be good for everybody … I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody."

Ishmael said Rockefeller himself came up with the "spread the wealth" line while sitting on the toilet one day last month.

"It was a trial balloon, to see whether the American people would be receptive to or outraged by the idea of income redistribution," he revealed. "In reality, the Bilderberg Group isn't interested in redistributing wealth - quite the opposite; they want it all for themselves and a future small group of globalist corporate rulers who will govern regions of the world. And they lust for a one-world government - under their control, of course - with no borders between nations and a large peasant class working in a feudalism-based world economy. American public acceptance of Obama's "spread the wealth" comment, combined with tolerance of the $700 billion Wall Street bailout package, has tilted the Bilderberg Group in favor of Obama for president next year."

Had Americans expressed outrage over Obama's remarks, Ishmael said, the backup plan would have been to allow Republican presidential candidate John McCain win the election.

"The Bilderbergers would have altered their plans a bit if Americans resisted Obama's remarks," he explained. "They would have gone to Plan B, which would entail a John McCain victory followed by another false-flag terror attack and martial law in the United States. However, the Bilderberg Group would rather have their New World Order with public consent and cooperation rather than using brute force to make it happen. Obama's remarks Sunday gave David Rockefeller the confidence to proceed with Plan A, which is an Obama win in November.

Ishmael said the Bilderberg Group has given orders to America's mainstream news media to keep the presidential polls close to make the race look like it hasn't been decided already.
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Originally Posted by aepps20

Neither guy is an expert on the economy. With that said ,I trust Obama to put together a better economic team than McCain.
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Really...you trust Obama huh. Remember when Obama said "NO ONE MAKING LESS THAN $250,000 WILL BE AFFECTED BY MY TAX INCREASE." Now, remember that infomercial he just did...yea, the one he spent millions on, what was the number he threw at us in there? Oh yea, $200,000....But wait...there's more...Prominant Democratic Governaor and Obama advisor/supporter just told America that Obama's cutoff for middle the middle class was $120,000 (but you weren't supposed to get his information yet, I'm sure Richardson has heard hell from the Obama campaign for that one) Here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaIhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G88ebXY2uaI. So lets see, in less than a week we went from $250,000 to $200,000 to $120,000. Oh yea...sounds trustworthy to me.
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I mean, we can count on the econimic saavy of a guy who spends $600 million to get himself elected right? Speaking of which, do you remember when Obama promised to do just as McCain has done and accept only public donations to finance his campaign? Now, do you rember when he broke that promise, and just shrugged his shoulders when he was called out on it? Of course you don't, because you know nothing about the man. He hasn't even been elected yet and is already going back on his word. Remember when liberal Democratic Presidential nominee Bill Clinton promised he wouldn't raise your taxes. Now remember when Clinton got in office, AND RAISED YOUR TAXES! Of course you don't remember that. Put this in perspective, McCain has spent $80 million on his campaign, Obama has spent $600,000,000 (thats 600 million) on his and still has only a slight lead in the polls.
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WOW you're full of misinformation it's just beyond me.

1. Lets clarify Obama's proposal which is people making less than $250,000 will not see their taxes increase, and people making less than $200,000 willreceive some type of tax cut. Got it? It's not that hard. If you're going to talk about Obama's plan, at least know the facts. See the chartbelow OK?

Per the Tax Policy Center, here is how Obama's tax plan breaks down for individuals:
$0-$18,891 = $567 tax cut
$18,982-$37,595 = $892 tax cut
$37,596-$66,354 = $1,118 tax cut
$66,355-$111,645 = $1,264 tax cut
$111,646-$160,972 = $2,135 tax cut
$160,973-$226,918 = $2,796 tax cut
$226,919-$603,402 = $121 tax increase
$603,403-$2.87 million = $93,709 tax increase
$2.87 million-plus = $542,882 tax increase

I am sorry but I had to laugh at that youtube video, a 12 second sound bite taken out of context is your basis that Obama is lying?
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2.
McCain has spent $80 million on his campaign
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Are you sure about that? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Here is a list of McCain's Campaign expenditures.. do they add up to $80 mil?

http://www.opensecrets.or...le=2008&cid=N00006424

[table][tr][th=""]Sector[/th] [th=""]escription[/th] [th=""]Total Expenditures[/th] [/tr][tr][td]Administrative[/td] [td]Travel[/td] [td]$26,766,573[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Salaries & Benefits[/td] [td]$20,121,510[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Postage/Shipping[/td] [td]$18,747,836[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Rent/Utilities[/td] [td]$6,779,737[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Supplies, Equipment & Furniture[/td] [td]$5,218,451[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Miscellaneous Administrative[/td] [td]$4,836,937[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Food/Meetings[/td] [td]$238,881[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Administrative Consultants[/td] [td]$47,757[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Campaign Expenses[/td] [td]Materials[/td] [td]$9,161,499[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Campaign Events[/td] [td]$6,366,114[/td] [/tr][tr][td]GOTV[/td] [td]$3,931,694[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Campaign Direct Mail[/td] [td]$2,842,697[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Polling/Surveys/Research[/td] [td]$1,750,173[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Political Consultants[/td] [td]$1,621,430[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Miscellaneous Campaign[/td] [td]$8,380[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Contributions[/td] [td]Contrib Refunds[/td] [td]$8,304,087[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Candidates (Fed & Non-federal)[/td] [td]$5,253,222[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Parties (Fed & Non-federal)[/td] [td]$8,156[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Committees (Fed & Non-Federal)[/td] [td]$-503[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Fundraising[/td] [td]Fundr Direct Mail/Telemarketing[/td] [td]$6,991,941[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Fundraising Consultants[/td] [td]$5,661,241[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Miscellaneous Fundraising[/td] [td]$3,163,896[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Fundraising Events[/td] [td]$950,366[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Media[/td] [td]Broadcast Media[/td] [td]$63,294,121[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Miscellaneous Media[/td] [td]$9,799,548[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Internet Media[/td] [td]$3,014,530[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Media Consultants[/td] [td]$624,144[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Print Media[/td] [td]$4,210[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Other[/td] [td]Loan Payments[/td] [td]$8,695,028[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Charitable Donations[/td] [td]$35,343[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Transfers[/td] [td]Federal Transfer[/td] [td]$10,920,121[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Uncoded[/td] [td]not yet coded[/td] [td]$75,977,431[/td] [/tr][tr][td]Unknown[/td] [td]Insufficient Info[/td] [td]$160,572[/td] [/tr][/table]
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Obama is giving people false hope. Tax break? BS he's giving a rebate check to those 95% that in the end will cover absolutely nothing. Pres. Bush gave outa stimulus check and people were like "Well, that can pay for my gas and thats it", but now because Obama is doing it, its all good?


Alot of Obama and McCain supporters do not know as much information as we do and interesting stat my professor gave out that the average American reads at a6th grade reading level, so what does that tell you? You can tell them anything they want to hear if it sounds good and run with it no questions asked.

Even if Obama is elected, he wouldnt fix the economy in 4 years. I don't even think Clinton's precious and savior "Dot Com bubble" would saveanother Democratic presidents @$# the way it did for him.

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Again... why do you guys even Address this guy Fede anymore?


As for you, you can just press the IGNORE button to the left, bro.
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Originally Posted by Fede DPT

Obama is giving people false hope. Tax break? BS he's giving a rebate check to those 95% that in the end will cover absolutely nothing. Pres. Bush gave out a stimulus check and people were like "Well, that can pay for my gas and thats it", but now because Obama is doing it, its all good?


Alot of Obama and McCain supporters do not know as much information as we do and interesting stat my professor gave out that the average American reads at a 6th grade reading level, so what does that tell you? You can tell them anything they want to hear if it sounds good and run with it no questions asked.
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And how is McCain invoking people? Its ok to HATE black people? Its ok to HATE Muslims? Its ok to ridicule and HATE people who support communityservice? Its ok to HATE people whose names are Arabic? Forget about what what McCain has to offer for America, lets just concentrate on belittling theopposition because he "pals around with terrorists." Yes lets play on the fears of voters. Excellent plan McCain, it's working, can't youtell by the poll numbers?
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