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[table][tr][td]2008-09 Power Rankings: Preseason[/td] [/tr][tr][td]RANK (LAST WK)[/td] [td]TEAM[/td] [td]REC.[/td] [td]COMMENT[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]1 (1)[/td] [td]Celtics[/td] [td]66-16[/td] [td]He hasn't done too much in Charlotte, but Michael Jordan has fired up at least one Celtic amid all those doubts about Boston's hunger to repeat. Sayeth Ray Allen: ''MJ told me when you win one, you've just [been] lucky.''[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]2 (2)[/td] [td]Lakers[/td] [td]57-25[/td] [td]It's a good thing L.A. is so stacked, because it has some history to overcome along with all that tough comp out West. The losing team in the Finals, remember, hasn't won the next season's title since 1989.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]3 (3)[/td] [td]Hornets[/td] [td]56-26[/td] [td]Too soon to say Posey's arrival is already paying off? The Hornets have already won something -- they were preseason ''champs'' at 7-0 -- and are third favorites to win it all according to the league's annual survey of GMs.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]4 (6)[/td] [td]Cavaliers[/td] [td]45-37[/td] [td]Q: Why are folks like me making such a big deal about the Mo Williams acquisition? A: Because LeBron's Cavs took Boston to seven games in the second round without a No. 2 scorer/shooter in Williams' class.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]5 (5)[/td] [td]Spurs[/td] [td]56-26[/td] [td]Is Pop's long, gray, unruly beard meant to mock folks who have written off the Spurs as too old? Better question: Have you considered how dangerous they might be if Manu is healed and rested come playoff time?[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]6 (4)[/td] [td]Rockets[/td] [td]55-27[/td] [td]Who knows how many games T-Mac, Yao and Ron-Ron actually play together? But I question anyone saying Artest might mess up Houston's chemistry. Mess up what? Houston hasn't won a playoff series since 1997.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]7 (7)[/td] [td]Pistons[/td] [td]59-23[/td] [td]Who doesn't think the Pistons are slipping? In that league survey of GMs, more than half (55.6 percent) picked the team that didn't make a major offseason move over Cleveland (44.4 percent) to win the Central Division.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]76ers[/td] [td]40-42[/td] [td]Funny old game, isn't it? You can go to Duke, go No. 1 overall in the draft, play in major media markets with the Bulls and Clips ... and you can still, as Elton Brand would tell you, find a whole new level of scrutiny in Philly.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]9 (9)[/td] [td]Jazz[/td] [td]54-28[/td] [td]An early injury scare with D-Will isn't the best of starts, but he's the last guy I'd worry about in Jazz country. Far bigger question marks, to me, are Utah's suspect D and the pitfalls of having eight potential free agents.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]10 (11)[/td] [td]Mavericks[/td] [td]51-31[/td] [td]Just thinking out loud (again): If they won 51 games last season when everyone in Mavsland was so miserable, shouldn't we hold off on all those obituaries until we see how the Mavs look (and feel) under Carlisle?[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]11 (12)[/td] [td]Suns[/td] [td]55-27[/td] [td]Skepticism was a constant in the D'Antoni Era, when the Suns averaged 58 wins over four seasons. Now? With an older team and such a drastic change in philosophy, you can see why skepticism is through the roof.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]12 (10)[/td] [td]Raptors[/td] [td]41-41[/td] [td]There are lots of Jermaine O'Neal haters out there, but we're completely on the other side. Which means we're already sold on the trio of JO, Bosh and Calderon. All our questions, frankly, are about the crew around them.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]13 (14)[/td] [td]Magic[/td] [td]52-30[/td] [td]The Magic are big favorites to win their division ... but there's a reason we call it the Southleast. Dangerous as Rashard, Hedo and Dwight are, doubts persist when the starting guards are Jameer Nelson and Mickael Pietrus.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]14 (13)[/td] [td]Trail Blazers[/td] [td]41-41[/td] [td]I know, I know: Oden had a rough preseason and eight of Portland's top 10 players are 25 or younger. But after the Blazers played .500 ball without Oden and Rudy Fernandez, where's the fun in preaching patience?[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]15 (18)[/td] [td]Nuggets[/td] [td]50-32[/td] [td]George Karl keeps trying to tell us that the Nuggets won't fall as far without Marcus Camby as most media pests claim. Of course, even if he's right, No. 8 in the West is realistically the highest Denver can finish.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]16 (15)[/td] [td]Wizards[/td] [td]43-39[/td] [td]Someone asked me the other day if the Wiz can stay competitive while Arenas is out, as if that would be sufficient. After re-upping Gil for $111 mil? Proving they can continue to win without him isn't much consolation.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]17 (17)[/td] [td]Bulls[/td] [td]33-49[/td] [td]Maybe rookies Rose and Del Negro can overcome Chicago's low-post limitations and glut of guards to lead a postseason run. But who wants to go out on that limb after last season's team underachieved so badly?[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]18 (20)[/td] [td]Warriors[/td] [td]48-34[/td] [td]With Baron Davis in L.A., Monta Ellis out indefinitely and unmistakable tension in the front office, Golden State is asking its famously patient fans to be understanding again. At least there's some good young talent here.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]19 (19)[/td] [td]Clippers[/td] [td]23-59[/td] [td]On paper? Baron Davis, Eric Gordon, Al Thornton, Chris Kaman and Marcus Camby are an intriguing fivesome. On hardwood? Hard to say when Camby didn't play any exhibition games and Baron played in one of eight.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]20 (22)[/td] [td]Hawks[/td] [td]37-45[/td] [td]It's true they played the Celts far closer in the playoffs than the Lakers did. Yet it's also true that the Hawks, beyond their solid starting five, have no depth to combat the much tougher competition for the East's No. 8 seed.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]21 (16)[/td] [td]Bucks[/td] [td]26-56[/td] [td]We normally don't like to make too much of preseason results, but the Bucks' 1-7 showing suggests that we might have underestimated the size of the task Skiles and new GM John Hammond have taken on here.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]22 (25)[/td] [td]Pacers[/td] [td]36-46[/td] [td]You know by now that the committee (of one) never tires of trotting out our pet Indy .500 line, but the sense here remains that the Pacers will wind up below it again, even if Dunleavy shakes his early knee problem.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]23 (24)[/td] [td]Heat[/td] [td]15-67[/td] [td]With the holes they have at point guard and center -- and a serious lack of depth, too -- let's be honest: D-Wade might have to be better than he was in the '06 Finals if he wants to take the Heat to the '09 playoffs.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]24 (28)[/td] [td]Timberwolves[/td] [td]22-60[/td] [td]The theory, if you subscribe, is that the Wolves have flanked Al Jefferson with multiple quality shooters ... and that players named Kevin (Love, in this case) tend to do well in this town. We haven't subscribed yet.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]25 (21)[/td] [td]Bobcats[/td] [td]32-50[/td] [td]If you noticed that the Bobcats went 0-8 in exhibition play and then found yourself wondering why Larry Brown ever agreed to take this job after his Knicks nightmare, here's your answer: It's the only job Larry could get.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]26 (26)[/td] [td]Knicks[/td] [td]23-59[/td] [td]I, for one, am fascinated to see how long it takes D'Antoni and Walsh to bring winning back to MSG. But Marbury's still here, which sadly will be all anyone talks about (along with the latest Isiah episode) until Steph goes.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]27 (27)[/td] [td]Nets[/td] [td]34-48[/td] [td]As if a full-on rebuilding project isn't tough enough for Nets die-hards to digest, now we're being told that arena construction in Brooklyn is on hold indefinitely. Do we even bother mentioning LeBron without Brooklyn?[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]28 (23)[/td] [td]Kings[/td] [td]38-44[/td] [td]Like the way Adande said it recently: The scrappy Kings will give you everything they've got, but unfortunately that (probably) won't be a whole lot. Especially early, with Brad Miller suspended for the first five games.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]29 (29)[/td] [td]Grizzlies[/td] [td]22-60[/td] [td]With the highlight-reel potential Gay and Mayo have, Memphis had a real shot to rank as my favorite lottery-bound team this season. Then the Kings inked our guy Bobby Brown over the summer, denying the Grizz yet again.[/td] [/tr][tr][td]
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[/td] [td]30 (30)[/td] [td]Thunder[/td] [td]20-62[/td] [td]Might be misleading to say that Kevin Durant and Co. have nothing to play for in their maiden season in Oklahoma City. You have to figure they've got a shot to be crowned Most Raucously Supported Bad Team in NBA history.[/td] [/tr][/table]






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[table][tr][td] [/td] [td]TEAM (APR. 14)[/td] [td]2007-08[/td] [td]BREAKDOWN[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 1[/td] [td] Boston (1)[/td] [td]66-16[/td] [td]Off: 111.8 (10), Def: 100.4 (1) -- Even though none of the big three averaged more than 19.6 minutes in the preseason, they've somehow convinced us that they're just as hungry to repeat as they were to win it the first time. Still, there's still the question of their ability to remain healthy. Chances are that they won't play 224 games between them this season.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 2[/td] [td] L.A. Lakers (2)[/td] [td]57-25[/td] [td]Off: 114.8 (3), Def: 107.2 (5) -- Kobe Bryant and the Lakers are saying that they need to improve their defense to win it all, and there's nothing wrong with saying that. But it was their offense that was more of an issue in the Finals, and Andrew Bynum's return should help the D anyway. They were stronger defensively before he got hurt (105.3 points allowed per 100 possessions) than they were after (108.6).[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 3[/td] [td] New Orleans (3)[/td] [td]56-26[/td] [td]Off: 113.3 (5), Def: 107.4 (
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-- James Posey should be a valuable addition for New Orleans, making their defense that much stronger, especially if they run into Kobe and the Lakers in the postseason. But the Hornets' bench is still thin, so it will be interesting to see if their stars can make it through a second straight run deep into the playoffs unscathed.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 4[/td] [td] Cleveland (18)[/td] [td]45-37[/td] [td]Off: 107.6 (20), Def: 107.9 (11) -- The Cavs certainly turned it up a notch in the playoffs, and Mo Williams will help on the offensive end. But can he adapt to the defense-first mantra in Cleveland? That may be the key.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 5[/td] [td] Utah (6)[/td] [td]54-28[/td] [td]Off: 115.6 (1), Def: 108.1 (12) -- Now here's a team that needs to improve their defense in order to take the next step. Specifically, they need to keep their hands to themselves. No team had their opponent go to the line more often than the Jazz last season. It's a good thing that their offense is a model of efficiency.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 6[/td] [td] Houston (7)[/td] [td]55-27[/td] [td]Off: 108.2 (17), Def: 103.0 (2) -- The addition of Ron Artest will give the Rockets a boost, but the health of Yao Ming and Tracy McGrady will always be a question. McGrady's hesitance to play on his surgically-repaired knee in the preseason should keep any overconfidence from Houston fans in check.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 7[/td] [td] San Antonio (4)[/td] [td]56-26[/td] [td]Off: 109.1 (13), Def: 103.6 (3) -- It's an odd year, and we'll never doubt the greatness of Tim Duncan, but the Spurs probably needed more retooling than just the addition of Roger Mason to put themselves back above the Lakers, unless Manu Ginobili's injury is all that held them back last year.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 8[/td] [td] Philadelphia (13)[/td] [td]40-42[/td] [td]Off: 107.7 (19), Def: 107.3 (6) -- The ranking should tell you that we love the addition of Elton Brand, who will help them on the defensive boards and with their halfcourt offense. But this team desperately needs a shooter in their rotation and Kareem Rush was not very convincing in the preseason, shooting just .318 from the field.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 9[/td] [td] Detroit (5)[/td] [td]59-23[/td] [td]Off: 112.7 (
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-- New coach, same slow pace. The Pistons averaged just 87.8 possessions in their eight exhibition games, which in general were downright ugly. But you can't argue with success. They went 6-2 in the preseason and have been winning slow and ugly under Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Flip Saunders and now, Michael Curry.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 10[/td] [td] Orlando (10)[/td] [td]52-30[/td] [td]Off: 113.2 (6), Def: 107.3 (7) -- Mickael Pietrus' length should help the Magic force more turnovers this season (that's where they were weakest defensively), and it's hard to fathom anyone challenging Orlando in the Southeast Division, but they're still a step below the other top teams in the East.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 11[/td] [td] Toronto (16)[/td] [td]41-41[/td] [td]Off: 112.0 (9), Def: 108.8 (14) -- The Raptors were dead last in free throw attempts per possession last season, and they were still a solid offensive team. So the addition of a low-post scorer and shotblocker like Jermaine O'Neal should certainly help on both ends of the floor ... once he gets comfortable.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 12[/td] [td] Phoenix (
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[/td] [td]55-27[/td] [td]Off: 115.2 (2), Def: 109.9 (17) -- It's going to take some time for the re-stylized Suns to hit their stride, but you've got to figure that there's too much talent on this team (including an underrated pickup in Matt Barnes) for them to suffer much of a decline. And of course, even though D'Antoni's defense was always undeservedly maligned, a new commitment to that end of the floor is never a bad thing.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 13[/td] [td] Portland (20)[/td] [td]41-41[/td] [td]Off: 108.6 (15), Def: 109.7 (16) -- With their abundance of young talent, the Blazers are the envy of many a franchise these days. Now, it's time to see how it all fits together. The first five games (@ Lakers, vs. Spurs, @ Suns, @ Jazz, vs. Rockets) will be a real test of how they measure up against the best in the West.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 14[/td] [td] Dallas (9)[/td] [td]51-31[/td] [td]Off: 112.8 (7), Def: 107.7 (9) -- A change in leadership and philosophy is exactly what the Mavs needed, and we're not ready to say that Jason Kidd's not a top five point guard anymore, but there are too many good teams in the West for Dallas to move up much.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 15[/td] [td] Washington (12)[/td] [td]43-39[/td] [td]Off: 110.6 (12), Def: 111.0 (20) -- We know it was preseason, but the Wizards' results over the last few weeks, save for a win in San Antonio, weren't pretty. Their early schedule is pretty favorable though, so they might be able to tread water until Gilbert Arenas returns.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 16[/td] [td] Atlanta (15)[/td] [td]37-45[/td] [td]Off: 108.3 (16), Def: 110.3 (18) -- The Hawks are a little deeper and a little more experienced than the team that scared the bleep out of Celtics fans last April, but it will take a stronger commitment to defense (they have the length to be a team that forces a ton of turnovers) for the Hawks to really move up.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 17[/td] [td] Denver (11)[/td] [td]50-32[/td] [td]Off: 111.7 (11), Def: 107.9 (10) -- Yes, Denver lost key pieces in Marcus Camby and Eduardo Najera, but the remaining frontline of Carmelo Anthony, Kenyon Martin and Nenê is still pretty good ... if healthy. That's question No. 1. Question No. 2 is whether they're still buying what George Karl is selling.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 18[/td] [td] Milwaukee (28)[/td] [td]26-56[/td] [td]Off: 106.7 (22), Def: 114.3 (30) -- We like the Bucks to make a significant improvement over last season. They've been an atrocious defensive team for the last several years, but Scott Skiles will change that immediately. And with Michael Redd, Richard Jefferson and Andrew Bogut, they should have enough offense to challenge for that eighth spot in the East.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 19[/td] [td] L.A. Clippers (29)[/td] [td]23-59[/td] [td]Off: 102.9 (28), Def: 110.9 (19) -- The Clippers are one of those teams that's hard to figure out. Well, we've figured out that they're a long shot to make the playoffs, but projecting their win total isn't easy. Marcus Camby's early injury issues have us leaning toward the 33-36 range.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 20[/td] [td] Sacramento (17)[/td] [td]38-44[/td] [td]Off: 109.0 (14), Def: 111.4 (25) -- It's not a good sign when your coach cuts shootaround short because of the players' "lackadaisical" ways in the preseason ... and you don't have that much talent to start with.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 21[/td] [td] Golden State (14)[/td] [td]48-34[/td] [td]Off: 113.5 (4), Def: 111.2 (24) -- Here's our pick for the team that falls off the most from last season's win total. When your best player is injured and you're missing both a point guard and a post game, you had better learn how to play some defense or it will be a long season.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 22[/td] [td] Chicago (24)[/td] [td]33-49[/td] [td]Off: 105.2 (27), Def: 108.6 (13) -- With a rookie coach, a rookie point guard and a bunch of guys who underachieved last season, it's tough to gauge the Bulls. A slew of preseason injuries didn't make it any easier. Expect a slow start (especially with a brutal last 12 days of November), but because the East isn't all that deep, Chicago will have a chance to make noise in the new year.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 23[/td] [td] Indiana (19)[/td] [td]36-46[/td] [td]Off: 107.8 (18), Def: 109.2 (15) -- With Jermaine O'Neal in Toronto and Jamaal Tinsley getting paid to do nothing, it's a new day in Indiana. But with tendinitis keeping Mike Dunleavy from playing more than 12 minutes in the preseason, it could be a while before the sun comes out.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 24[/td] [td] New York (27)[/td] [td]23-59[/td] [td]Off: 106.2 (24), Def: 113.5 (28) -- Similar to the way they've been over the last few years, the Knicks will look brilliant at times ... and they'll look pretty bad at times as well. But the brilliance ratio should be higher under Mike D'Antoni, and the bad times won't be quite as terrible they were under the previous regime.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 25[/td] [td] New Jersey (21)[/td] [td]34-48[/td] [td]Off: 105.5 (25), Def: 111.1 (22) -- Many believe that this is the worst team in the Eastern Conference, but even with Jason Kidd and Richard Jefferson, the Nets so badly underachieved last season that we don't see that much of a dropoff, if any at all. If the new faces bring a new attitude, New Jersey can avoid bottoming out completely while still building for the future.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 26[/td] [td] Minnesota (23)[/td] [td]22-60[/td] [td]Off: 105.4 (26), Def: 112.9 (27) -- While the O.J. Mayo or Kevin Love question may very well come to haunt them along the way, the Timberwolves should show improvement this season. They couldn't get any worse, right?[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 27[/td] [td] Miami (30)[/td] [td]15-67[/td] [td]Off: 102.1 (29), Def: 111.8 (26) -- We know that the Heat will be better than they were last season. But we don't know where Shawn Marion fits in, nor where they will find a point guard and a center.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 28[/td] [td] Charlotte (22)[/td] [td]32-50[/td] [td]Off: 106.4 (23), Def: 111.2 (23) -- The Bobcats are one of several teams that will struggle early and improve as the season goes on. That's the way of Larry Brown. And with an 0-8 preseason, it seems like Step 1 in the process is already underway.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 29[/td] [td] Memphis (26)[/td] [td]22-60[/td] [td]Off: 106.9 (21), Def: 113.5 (29) -- With four real building blocks for the future in Mike Conley, O.J. Mayo, Rudy Gay and Marc Gasol, the Grizzlies should be fun to watch and a step ahead of the Thunder ... if they can just play a little defense.[/td] [/tr][tr][td] 30[/td] [td] Oklahoma City (25)[/td] [td]20-62[/td] [td]Off: 101.9 (30), Def: 111.1 (21) -- The Thunder is still a couple of years and a couple of players from even threatening for a playoff spot. Oklahoma City is probably probably just happy to have them, but in order to get the franchise moving in the right direction, Kevin Durant will need more help than Jeff Green and Russell Westbrook can provide.[/td] [/tr][/table]
 
Besides the Kings getting shafted (
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) these rankings look pretty good... but is it just me or the Cavs higher than they should be. I was thinkingthey would be like 10.
 
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I was surprised at the Cavs love too



They HAVE to go out and perform though. The Bulls were picked high last year and we saw what happened.


Then again the Cavs have the King....
 
^ Yeah, Mo Williams is a solid pick up for that team.

I see the Pistons on the verge of breaking up. Build around Stuckey and Prince.
 
I haven't been so un-hyped for a season to start since 1999.

With the exception of seeing how Elton Brand will do in Philly, there isn't anything to really "watch" for. Seems to be a continuation of lastseason.
 
Heat will be most improved team possibly. Cavs are ranked too high even though Lebron can beast the league. Suns should be slightly higher.
 
Ghenges, is JO not a big plus to Toronto? Also they solved their PG issue, they lost points from losing TJ, but they picked that RIGHT back up by getting JO.

Also the acquisition of Ron Artest is HUGE.

Seeing how Suns/Mavericks do will be interesting to see as well. I think this will be a fine NBA season.

Happy NBA-season guys.
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Originally Posted by Ghenges

I haven't been so un-hyped for a season to start since 1999.

With the exception of seeing how Elton Brand will do in Philly, there isn't anything to really "watch" for. Seems to be a continuation of last season.




No offense but I think you might be in the minority. The east is significantly stronger this year but with both LA teams and Portland making significantimprovements the west hasn't necessarily leveled off either. Artest in Houston, Wade back in MIA with a stud rookie, Baby Blazers, Lakers a possiblejuggernaut, plenty of high impact, charasmatic rookies . .

Here's the way I look at it : IMO the league is so competitive this year that I wouldn't be absolutely shocked if any of the following teams somehowcracked the top 4 in the western conference :

Lakers
Hornets
Spurs
Rockets
Jazz
Mavs
Suns
Blazers
Clippers
Nuggets

Every single one of those teams has enough firepower that there's no reason why it couldn't just suddenly 'click' for a team like Denver orPhoenix.

As for the east . . Boston is obviously #1, but I wouldn't be totally surprised to see any of the following teams take the #2 spot :

Cleveland
Detroit
Philly
Raptors
Magic
Miami

Atlanta and Chicago will be worth keeping an eye on as as the season progresses, too.
 
Wow, 28 in one. 20 in the other. Just goes to show how unpredictable (yet still not very good) the Kings will be this season.
 
I haven't been so un-hyped for a season to start since 1999.

With the exception of seeing how Elton Brand will do in Philly, there isn't anything to really "watch" for. Seems to be a continuation of last season.
OJ Mayo alone is reason enough for excitement.
 
I wouldn't be shocked to see the Heat outperform those preseason rankings by anywhere from 5-10 spots.

It's gonna be an interesting season all around in the Association this year; lots of interesting storylines and intriguing squads (Portland, Philly,Chicago, Miami, Clips, etc...).

Very excited to have basketball back.
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Of all those little mini-thumbnails, I like the Timberwolves, Hornets, and Grizzlies the best.

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BSPN picking the cavs over the spurs suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure
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...i hate when the spurs are under the radar because thats when theyredangerous
 
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