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I agree with the vaccination passport or some type of identification for events. My wife and I are already at the point where we only socialize with people who have gotten the vaccine. It only makes sense. Why risk it?
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Keeping in mind that herd immunity is not some hard threshold, we may be able to reach it with just 70% of the population vaccinated, for example. Now, if 40% of adults refuse the vaccine, then we will need children to be vaccinated. But if it's more like 15%, then we may not. A big factor is that covid-19 spread is pretty skewed -- one person may spread it to 0 people while somebody else may spread it to 25. If the superspreaders are vaccinated and if kids are not superspreaders, then we may not need to vaccinate them, at least not urgently.Herd immunity will not be possible without them.
I've been wanting to emphasize this point, not just for kids but as a population. If we hadn't locked down last spring and just let covid-19 rip through, we'd have at least 1 million dead. As it stands, we sort of let it rip this fall/winter and saw an additional 300k die with better treatments on hand.I’m sure the toll would have been much worse with no precautions or restrictions.
I heard the vaccine is using T-Mobile's 5G network.I’ll be going for my first vaccine appointment just after 1pm today. I wonder which flavor they are serving. Age 47 here.
whatever the case, don't get the AstraZeneca vaccine. It's really just 5G E.I heard the vaccine is using T-Mobile's 5G network.
When mom got her first we downloaded Anita Baker's whole discography in a split secondI heard the vaccine is using T-Mobile's 5G network.
My favorite part of any covid study is reading how people who die for any old reason after taking the vaccine, i.e. WITH the covid vaccine, are not counted as covid vaccine deaths, but people who die for any old reason and have covid, i.e. WITH covid, are considered covid deaths.
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I'm curious if you've crunched the numbers to see how much of an effect this is. We know the number of excess deaths and the test positivity of covid over time so you could do some quick back-of-the-envelope calculations.My favorite part of any covid study is reading how people who die for any old reason after taking the vaccine, i.e. WITH the covid vaccine, are not counted as covid vaccine deaths, but people who die for any old reason and have covid, i.e. WITH covid, are considered covid deaths.
How much of an effect what is? The bill that the house is voting on for child abuse due to the lockdowns?I'm curious if you've crunched the numbers to see how much of an effect this is. We know the number of excess deaths and the test positivity of covid over time so you could do some quick back-of-the-envelope calculations.
Thanks for reminding me, I haven’t complained in awhile. You gotta give me credit.One of things I a looking forward is to after herd immunity is reach is my mans wallyhopp going to the grocery store in peace.
Ole boy complained about that **** so much.
Mans gonna be up in Albertsons wildin like...
My favorite part of any covid study is reading how people who die for any old reason after taking the vaccine, i.e. WITH the covid vaccine, are not counted as covid vaccine deaths, but people who die for any old reason and have covid, i.e. WITH covid, are considered covid deaths.
Appreciate the thoughtful response. I do not agree with you, but appreciate it. Your choking example is in no way applicable.The only way someone can die from the direct result of any vaccine is anaphylactic shock. Flu shot, tdp (tetanus/diphtheria/whooping cough vaccine), mmr, polio, etc. All the ones you got as a kid. The cause of death would literally be the shot. The Covid vaccine fits into this as well because it’s administered via a needle. With the shear amount of vaccines already given I believe it’s said you could count mysterious deaths on one hand that may or may not be Covid vaccine related.
With Covid, it’s hard to say patient A’s breathing was NOT deeply affected by Covid. Patient A stopped breathing in the hospital. Let’s say they had a history of smoking, COPD, and congestive heart failure. While this person has a lot of underlying conditions that can cause death the main cause of death would be Covid because it’s what finally shut down this persons breathing.
My aunt currently has COPD, history of smoking, and congestive heart failure yet she is still living. She is currently on oxygen. If she died tomorrow it would be complications of those underlying conditions. If she were to get Covid, her death would be that because of current medical knowledge in how it affects the body. Do the underlying conditions play a role in that? Absolutely. But the main cause to stop her breathing would be Covid.
Just like if she choked on a peanut m&m. The cause of death is choking. The underlying conditions didn’t help but again based on medical knowledge, choking would be the cause of death.
Covid is no different here.
Appreciate the thoughtful response. I do not agree with you, but appreciate it. Your choking example is in no way applicable.
The way people just simply dismiss mental illness in this country because granny died .4 years before she otherwise would have and happened to die with COVID, diagnosed after the fact, is the biggest travesty of my lifetime. People genuinely do not understand how traumatic the last year has been on the future, both financially with this asinine stimulus, to mentally from lockdowns.
If you think it's just "granny dying .4 years before she otherwise would have," I would implore you to speak with critical care workers about the demographics they saw in their ICUs and CCUs.Appreciate the thoughtful response. I do not agree with you, but appreciate it. Your choking example is in no way applicable.
The way people just simply dismiss mental illness in this country because granny died .4 years before she otherwise would have and happened to die with COVID, diagnosed after the fact, is the biggest travesty of my lifetime. People genuinely do not understand how traumatic the last year has been on the future, both financially with this asinine stimulus, to mentally from lockdowns.
I appreciate your story and feel terrible that people had to experience this. I also appreciate your help throughout the pandemic. Sincerely.If you think it's just "granny dying .4 years before she otherwise would have," I would implore you to speak with critical care workers about the demographics they saw in their ICUs and CCUs.
Having worked through both waves of COVID in NY, this was NOT the case. I saw countless individuals with no prior medical history end up intubated and maxed out on vasopressor drugs, the vast majority of which didn't make it. I also saw even more people in their late 40s-early 70s with nonsignificant/expected medical histories in the throws of death because of COVID. These were not people who "would have died .4 years later anyways." These were people who attended large family gatherings and other events and caught it from someone there. They were living otherwise normal lives prior to COVID and they ended up dead when the only variable that had changed was their exposure to COVID.
Mental illness is swept under the rug in this country--no doubt about it. It just seems like you're using it as a prop for your argument in order to minimize how devastating COVID was on our healthcare system and economy overall.