Majorbread
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^ ya man I'm in Portland and the latest and greatest guidance from shut down brown just doesn't make sense to me anymore
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I felt pretty rough the whole next day after getting my second dose of Moderna, and much better when I woke up the morning after (~45+ hours after vax). Saving grace was the thought in the back of my mind that the side effects were a good sign that my immune system was busy building an army of antibodies and B/T cells.
WELL WELL WELL!!!! My county got upgraded to extreme risk because........the ****ing university of Oregon. Look at this ****.
382 cases. 79% of the outbreaks. No repercussions. No changes to the university. But yeah close gyms. Cool beans.
Word.It all depends how many people skip the vaccine. Right now only ~30% of the US population is fully vaccinated and just over 40% have had a single dose. We are nowhere near herd immunity and people are already acting like the threat is gone and we can get "back to normal." Vaccination rates are dropping as people are taking medical advice from Dr. Joe Rogan.
Word.
Was just think the vaccine has been available to the general public for a couple months and if we're at 30-40 percent, I would hope in 5 more months we would be at a place that things can go back to somewhat normal. Wishful thinking I suppose.
I understand your point and agree to an extent. There are some incredibly brilliant people at the CDC (not to take anything away from dumb/smart peeps on NT), but smart people aren't always the best at communication. Add in the fact that they're also intrinsically part of whatever kool aid the US government is selling/messaging, and the public health message is often lost in translation.Yeah we got to stop propping up some of these organizations as deities and experts who can do no wrong.
I'm an "expert" in my field due to my job title, but I'll be the first to admit I don't know **** and just getting by somehow.
CDC is just made of people as dumb/smart as the peeps on NT. Not even on some anti-Fauci & anti big government stuff, but it doesn't take an expert to realize so many of their guidelines make no damn sense.
Yeah we got to stop propping up some of these organizations as deities and experts who can do no wrong.
I'm an "expert" in my field due to my job title, but I'll be the first to admit I don't know **** and just getting by somehow.
CDC is just made of people as dumb/smart as the peeps on NT. Not even on some anti-Fauci & anti big government stuff, but it doesn't take an expert to realize so many of their guidelines make no damn sense.
I understand your point and agree to an extent. There are some incredibly brilliant people at the CDC (not to take anything away from dumb/smart peeps on NT), but smart people aren't always the best at communication. Add in the fact that they're also intrinsically part of whatever kool aid the US government is selling/messaging, and the public health message is often lost in translation.
Hope your mom feels better soon bro.My mom got her second shot yesterday. Started feeling bad at night. Had bad chills and cold sweats overnight. She’s still feeling ****ty last I spoke to her.
There’s info by state on this page if you scroll down:Any chart that shows which state has the most percentage of its residents vaccinated?
I noticed MIT had a study get published last week and many sources are trying to spin or debunk what they are saying to fit their audience.The CDC Is Still Repeating Its Mistakes
The agency’s new guidelines are too timid and too complicated.
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2021/04/cdc-outdoor-mask-pandemic/618739/
Really good article about how the CDC fumbles and continues to fumble any and all data and guidelines that they release or update.
I noticed MIT had a study get published last week and many sources are trying to spin or debunk what they are saying to fit their audience.
I think this I may have seen this posted here but here it is again
Lots of various news sources are trying to debunk this. Are these folks professionals lol? It’s a lot like the Duke university study. Everyone’s just looking for flaws to ignore the studies.MIT researchers say time spent indoors increases risk of Covid at 6 feet or 60 feet in new study challenging social distancing policies
The CDC and WHO guidelines fail to factor in the amount of time spent indoors, which increases the chance of transmission the longer people are inside.www.cnbc.com
Any other schools abroad studying transmission? Why haven’t we found the ultimate mask (when worn, it’s 99% effective)? Is that your n95s? If everyone had one of those, why isn’t there a push for that? It’s been a year, you’d think there would be more raw data out there. Have there been guinea pig studies with known positive people trying to get a group in a restaurant sick?
I think one problem is there's no good way to check and enforce that unmasked patrons are vaccinated, plus it'll be weird if half the people wear masks and half don't. I think in a month or so once more are vaccinated and numbers have dropped then we can just remove all the mask guidelines.Yeah I don’t get these guidelines anymore. There’s great evidence supporting the efficacy of these vaccines including asymptomatic transmission being similar to symptomatic transmission. If you’re vaccinated, the overwhelming odds are that you won’t contract the virus and there’s even slimmer odds that you contract AND spread it.
At this point, telling people to get vaccinated and still mask up like they’ve been doing seems like a deterrent. How can you tell people the vaccine is so effective and they should get it but then still have to take all the precautions they did before? Makes no sense. Most high risk individuals have gotten vaccinated and if they haven’t for 5 months then they don’t want it anyway.
Guidelines are confusing.
I’ve already noticed a lot more people in stores wearing masks under their chin or not at all this week.The CDC is in a tough situation. If they don’t recommend masking indoors for those who are fully vaccinated, people will lie about their vaccination status.
I usually go to the gym early but I've been fasting during the day the last couple weeks, so I have been working out in the evening. Noticed the evening gym crowed gives zero F's. Either people are not wearing it, have it under their nose or chin, or have it on properly and those people are the minority..... The staff ask people to pull their mask up and they do until the staffer walks away and they immediately pull it back down. It's like in school when a teacher asked you to take your hat off inside and as soon as they walk away you slap it back on.I’ve already noticed a lot more people in stores wearing masks under their chin or not at all this week.
Dads quarantine ended. He went to get tested again. Still positive. Interesting.
Yep that’s what I figured. Still rather not take the risk just in case he is still infectious.
Crazy part is my grandfather who tested positive who has every condition and is 94 years old has no symptoms. Weird virus.