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Most recommend starting a LLC for your rentals. Not sure how the taxes would work out though.
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When you have a regular job and do real estate on the side are you able to deduct the amount you invested from your income ?
For example, Let's say you make a $100K a year from your regular job. You buy a duplex for $50K. You made $12K profit in rent. You're down $38K in year one. Now what ?
capital sb It's great since you get unlimited access to the all features. I wouldn't recommend getting it if you're not going to spend a lot of time dedicated to REI.
@millenial There are two basic terms anyone in REI should know, Cap Rate and Cash on Cash return. Calculate cap rate if you're purchasing the property in cash. Calculate the cash on cash return if you're leveraging.
I like to calculate the rock bottom return I'd get on my investment. If it turns out to be more, thats a bonus. I aim for at least a 10% cap rate in my market (Tampa, FL). It will definitely be less in markets such as in NY and Cali.
206to813 Yes, I've acquired 8 units in the past 2 years. It was 10 but had to sell 2 because they weren't producing as I calculated they would. The 8 I have now are doing phenomenal. What I've learned is to always buy duplexes and multiplexes. Factoring in vacancy, with duplexes and multiplexes you can still collect rent from one unit if the other unit is vacant. You'll still be able to pay your mortgage. Now with SFH, once it is vacant, you may have to wait 1-2 months to find a tenant, leaving you to make mortgage payments out of pocket. Vacancy should be no more than 5%-8%.
When you have a regular job and do real estate on the side are you able to deduct the amount you invested from your income ?
For example, Let's say you make a $100K a year from your regular job. You buy a duplex for $50K. You made $12K profit in rent. You're down $38K in year one. Now what ?
capital sb It's great since you get unlimited access to the all features. I wouldn't recommend getting it if you're not going to spend a lot of time dedicated to REI.
@millenial There are two basic terms anyone in REI should know, Cap Rate and Cash on Cash return. Calculate cap rate if you're purchasing the property in cash. Calculate the cash on cash return if you're leveraging.
I like to calculate the rock bottom return I'd get on my investment. If it turns out to be more, thats a bonus. I aim for at least a 10% cap rate in my market (Tampa, FL). It will definitely be less in markets such as in NY and Cali.
206to813 Yes, I've acquired 8 units in the past 2 years. It was 10 but had to sell 2 because they weren't producing as I calculated they would. The 8 I have now are doing phenomenal. What I've learned is to always buy duplexes and multiplexes. Factoring in vacancy, with duplexes and multiplexes you can still collect rent from one unit if the other unit is vacant. You'll still be able to pay your mortgage. Now with SFH, once it is vacant, you may have to wait 1-2 months to find a tenant, leaving you to make mortgage payments out of pocket. Vacancy should be no more than 5%-8%.
Outside of Mentally being ready, what steps/goals do you recommend one setting for themselves prior to getting into the game? Ie. Ideal situation a person should set themselves with whether it be establishing business lines of credit, setting up an LLC, etc. Like if you were to make a list of the 5 or so things one should do before making the jump. There is a lot of info out there but it gets overwhelming when you are researching with no real direction of specifics to look for.
capital sb It's great since you get unlimited access to the all features. I wouldn't recommend getting it if you're not going to spend a lot of time dedicated to REI.
@millenial There are two basic terms anyone in REI should know, Cap Rate and Cash on Cash return. Calculate cap rate if you're purchasing the property in cash. Calculate the cash on cash return if you're leveraging.
I like to calculate the rock bottom return I'd get on my investment. If it turns out to be more, thats a bonus. I aim for at least a 10% cap rate in my market (Tampa, FL). It will definitely be less in markets such as in NY and Cali.
206to813 Yes, I've acquired 8 units in the past 2 years. It was 10 but had to sell 2 because they weren't producing as I calculated they would. The 8 I have now are doing phenomenal. What I've learned is to always buy duplexes and multiplexes. Factoring in vacancy, with duplexes and multiplexes you can still collect rent from one unit if the other unit is vacant. You'll still be able to pay your mortgage. Now with SFH, once it is vacant, you may have to wait 1-2 months to find a tenant, leaving you to make mortgage payments out of pocket. Vacancy should be no more than 5%-8%.
Outside of Mentally being ready, what steps/goals do you recommend one setting for themselves prior to getting into the game? Ie. Ideal situation a person should set themselves with whether it be establishing business lines of credit, setting up an LLC, etc. Like if you were to make a list of the 5 or so things one should do before making the jump. There is a lot of info out there but it gets overwhelming when you are researching with no real direction of specifics to look for.
This.
I'm already a member on BP, but I'd be lying to you if I said i was on there frequently. The sheer amount of information is overwhelming. My hope is to start investing in RE by 2017, and I should be studying up right now; but as mentioned, the amount of information is daunting.
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Start listening to the podcasts that interest you in your free time. To/from work, folding clothes, laundry, exercise etc.This.
I'm already a member on BP, but I'd be lying to you if I said i was on there frequently. The sheer amount of information is overwhelming. My hope is to start investing in RE by 2017, and I should be studying up right now; but as mentioned, the amount of information is daunting.
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I think im in the same position as most of the guys that are interested in getting started. It is a lot but ive found it best to try to focus on what you are really interested in and build from there.
If you want to flip houses focus on renovation costs, contractors and estimating after repair values.
If you want to build a portfolio learn about managing properties, screening tenants, and the difference between rental income and true cash flow.
Multiple members of my family have been involved in real estate in some fashion since i was born and tbh 90% of them have made horrible mistakes. Most of them didn't do their due diligence, didnt properly manage the income or placed horrible tenants.
If someone isnt willing to put in the work to learn then they wont be successful.
Most recommend starting a LLC for your rentals.
yea I`m trying to be Debt free in the next 3-4 yrs minus my current mortgage and probably last bit of Student Loans I have (not much or anything crazy). I`m 27 now and I want to prob have my first property by 32, and then have my first actual business by 35, I`m trying to be out of the being an employee of someone game completely by 45.
I think im in the same position as most of the guys that are interested in getting started. It is a lot but ive found it best to try to focus on what you are really interested in and build from there.
If you want to flip houses focus on renovation costs, contractors and estimating after repair values.
If you want to build a portfolio learn about managing properties, screening tenants, and the difference between rental income and true cash flow.
Multiple members of my family have been involved in real estate in some fashion since i was born and tbh 90% of them have made horrible mistakes. Most of them didn't do their due diligence, didnt properly manage the income or placed horrible tenants.
If someone isnt willing to put in the work to learn then they wont be successful.
yea I`m trying to be Debt free in the next 3-4 yrs minus my current mortgage and probably last bit of Student Loans I have (not much or anything crazy). I`m 27 now and I want to prob have my first property by 32, and then have my first actual business by 35, I`m trying to be out of the being an employee of someone game completely by 45.
i like this this man thinks
we need to link up when i hit atl man
Same age and I feel you 100%
I gave myself to the age of 40 when I first started working but after really focusing on my future I dont think I can last that long.
Over the past year while I was saving for my current home I learned a lot about myself. Its amazing how much I was willing to sacrifice for what I wanted when before I couldn't imagine giving certain things up. If i knew what I know now 10 years ago when I left HS I would be so much further along.I dont want to be saying the same things 10 years from now so im ive really been trying to push myself this year and hopefully it works out.
lol Can't be no grown man having to depend on corporate directors on whether I can feed my kids or send them to college. I don't knock anyone who does it, but I feel most of the people who are successful worked their normal jobs and learned from it then applied what they learn for their own businesses.
man i wish i had your mindset at a younger age.............i honestly did mature not until age 29 (don't let my NT persona fool you)
i just was on the ******** livin care free.................now its like i have a 2nd chance at life, not gonna get all religious in here but i feel very blessed
I mean initially I always wanted to just climb the ladder in the corporate world and call it a day, but at the end of the day I just dont like the idea of someone being in control of my life especially having kids and stuff. I dont knock anyone who works but its foolish to not at least invest your money in addition to working. I just cant see myself being old and still having to play corporate politics.