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man we could have seen georgia and usc. what a game that would be. they go with illinois and we all saw how that turned out.
how bad did the rose bowl screw up?
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Nothing they could've done Per the BCS rules you can't take a bowl's #1 team. The Rose Bowl Couldn't take UGA from the Sugar Bowl without theirpermission and there was no way the SUgar was going to let UGA get away.
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The BCS once again leaves us with more questions then answers. SMH at the whole BCS system.
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Georgia Vs USC
Hawaii vs Illinois
Hawaii vs Illinois
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didnt rose bowl have first pick at a team? technically sugar bowl lost lsu so it would have been fair game to pick georgia. plus during the selection showeveryone was suprised that it was illinois over georgia.
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the rose bowl does get first pick but they need the sugar bowls permission in order to take georgia from the sugar because lsu was in the bcs championshipgame. even though they didnt ask which i think they should have at least the sugar wasnt going to give up georgia.
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Originally Posted by SCuse7
Georgia Vs USC
Hawaii vs Illinois
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rose could have gotten uga with the initial pick ... and by the way, im leaning more towards the bowl +1 format with every passing year
Team-Selection Procedures
The bowls will select their participants from two pools: (1) automatic qualifiers, all of which must be selected, and, (2) at-large teams, if fewer than 10teams qualify automatically. The following sequence will be used when establishing pairings:
1. The top two teams in the final BCS Standings will be placed in the National Championship Game ("NCG").
2. Unless they qualify to play in the NCG, the champions of selected conferences are contractually committed to host selected games:
Atlantic Coast Conference-Orange Bowl
Big Ten Conference-Rose Bowl
Big 12 Conference-Fiesta Bowl
Pac-10 Conference-Rose Bowl
Southeastern Conference-Sugar Bowl
3. If a bowl loses a host team to the NCG, then such bowl shall select a replacement team fromamong the automatic-qualifying teams and the at-large teams before any other selections are made. If two bowls lose host teams to the NCG, each bowl will get areplacement pick before any other selections are made. In such case, the bowl losing the No. 1 team gets the first replacement pick, and the bowl losing theNo. 2 team gets the second replacement pick. If the Rose Bowl loses both the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions to the NCG, it will receive two replacementpicks.
A bowl choosing a replacement team may not select any of the following:
A. A team in theNCG;
B. The host team for another BCSBowl;
C. When two bowls lose host teams, thenthe bowl losing the number one team may not select a replacement team from the same Conference as the number two team, unless the bowl losing the number twoteam consents.
http://www.bcsfootball.org/bcsfb/eligibility
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well theres another instance where mike and mike (and in todays case mike and sean) is wrong ... cuz greeny was all pissed today that the rose didnt pick ugsand usc ...
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i have said it on here numerous times but i will try once again. The Rose Bowl should have taken Missouri which would have left Kansas out to dry, rightfullyso. There is no way on earth Kansas should have got an at large bid over Missouri. Missouri was the team to choose. They beat 2 At Large BCS teams in Kansas& Illinois. The Rose Bowl selected before the Orange did and the Old Timers on the Rose Bowl Commitee Blew it. Illinois did however travel well as i sawIllinois fans around LA all over this past week. Their section at the game was pretty loud too. In the end
it wasnt a fair matchup and i really place a lot of blame on the voters that somehow thought that USC was the 7th best team in the country. (What a joke).
If there was 1 more game USC would be your national champions just like last year. aint nobody telling me Florida or Ohio St. or LSU is beating them. Cuz in abig game format that just wont happen. The Vince Young game was a fluke and we played terrible that day and gave it away.
it wasnt a fair matchup and i really place a lot of blame on the voters that somehow thought that USC was the 7th best team in the country. (What a joke).
If there was 1 more game USC would be your national champions just like last year. aint nobody telling me Florida or Ohio St. or LSU is beating them. Cuz in abig game format that just wont happen. The Vince Young game was a fluke and we played terrible that day and gave it away.
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Co-sign. The bcs is a mess once again.
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thank god we had Mich-Fla and TT-Virginia earlier in the day because watching USC and UGA beat down overmatched opponents was real boring
there might be half a dozen fans in the entire world who think the BCS works right now, how many more years of meaningless, badly matched bowl games will wehave to sit through until we get change
there might be half a dozen fans in the entire world who think the BCS works right now, how many more years of meaningless, badly matched bowl games will wehave to sit through until we get change
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The Vince Young game was a fluke
i understand you're an sc fan, but c'mon now
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The BCS was messed up this year because of the fact that bowl games have contractual agreements with confrences. If the Sugar didnt get the SEC champs or theSEC team that was BCS eligible then we would have gotten USC VS UGA.
Back in 1987 the Fiesta Bowl had no contractual agreements with any league and we got the National title game without the bs.
Now every bowl is in contracts to send a team to that bowl based on record and or money.
The Rose has to take the PAC 10 VS big 10 matchup because the SUGAR isnt giving up a SEC team for any reason the money wouldnt be right. The rose could havepaid for the rights to Georgia but they wernt at liberty to do so because Illini fans travel in droves. In the end the Bowl games arent ment to do anything butmake money.
Back in 1987 the Fiesta Bowl had no contractual agreements with any league and we got the National title game without the bs.
Now every bowl is in contracts to send a team to that bowl based on record and or money.
The Rose has to take the PAC 10 VS big 10 matchup because the SUGAR isnt giving up a SEC team for any reason the money wouldnt be right. The rose could havepaid for the rights to Georgia but they wernt at liberty to do so because Illini fans travel in droves. In the end the Bowl games arent ment to do anything butmake money.
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Unless Oklahoma shows me something big tonight I think Georgia and USC are the 2 best teams in the nation...
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I agree the selection sucks. But IMO we will never see a change. Conferences would lose too much money. The whole conference gets paid when a team goes to abowl game, and a playoff system or any changes would reduce the amount of money available for these conferences to get because there would probably be lessteams accepted into the new playoffs (the NCAA wouldn't extend the football season too much beyond a semester). So I guess we are stuck with a brokensystem. It would be better with an improved selection process though
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I like conventional bowl matchups. Just because the Rose Bowl has been a flop the last 2 years, doesn't mean you get rid of all the history that bowl had.
Bowls are not made in the best interests of what the avid football fan wants, it is made in terms of what is going to sell tickets. You can have the greatestbowl matchup ever, but if the school doesn't travel well, like Boston College, the venue will not sell out and that is the main objective of the bowlcommittee.
Can't say I blame them.
Bowls are not made in the best interests of what the avid football fan wants, it is made in terms of what is going to sell tickets. You can have the greatestbowl matchup ever, but if the school doesn't travel well, like Boston College, the venue will not sell out and that is the main objective of the bowlcommittee.
Can't say I blame them.
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Big Ten = Rose Bowl
SEC = Sugar Bowl
That's the way things work. This isn't a new concept. It's about 30 years old now.
SEC = Sugar Bowl
That's the way things work. This isn't a new concept. It's about 30 years old now.
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From what I've heard from my boys that went to SEC schools is that their fans would travel to another country if it meant seeing their team in a big game.
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Wizard thats what I was trying to say last night.
Funk is right that is the problem. But If these games in partcular the Rose Bowl dont make money then we lose the stadiums.
the Rose Bowl gets like 9 games at most a year now.
the Superdome in years it dont get NCAA tourney games has like 9 games too it just dont always work.
When these stadiums get a chance to make money they have to take it.
^ SO would Big 10 fans but they only get 2 selections to BCS games. The Big East the ACC sans Miami and FSU and the PAC 10 sans USC and UCLA dont travel period
Funk is right that is the problem. But If these games in partcular the Rose Bowl dont make money then we lose the stadiums.
the Rose Bowl gets like 9 games at most a year now.
the Superdome in years it dont get NCAA tourney games has like 9 games too it just dont always work.
When these stadiums get a chance to make money they have to take it.
^ SO would Big 10 fans but they only get 2 selections to BCS games. The Big East the ACC sans Miami and FSU and the PAC 10 sans USC and UCLA dont travel period
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Cuz in a big game format that just wont happen. The Vince Young game was a fluke and we played terrible that day and gave it away.
you have to win in the small games first to get to the big games
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sec fans would travel to afghanistan in a row boat even to watch their team play western baghdad university.
