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It might be a competition between him and Wade of who will gain the most weight after retirement.
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Use better stats and a more reasonable time frame. Why include Durant's rookie or sophomore year? These are both veteran players. Let's use the last 3 years.Originally Posted by TraSoul82
I normally don't respond to nonsense, but:Originally Posted by 10027
Originally Posted by TraSoul82
How do you feel about Kevin Durant's game? Statistically, they've matched up pretty well.
Well, let's see: Durant won the scoring title the last two years, which melo has never done, while shooting a better percentage. He's also a leader, a smart player, and a winner. He doesn't make players around him worse or frustrate his coaches. So yeah, that's the difference between a B-class 'star' and one of the best players in the league.
Scoring titles mean nothing. Melo once average 28 ppg in a season where Kobe happened to averaged more. What does a scoring title really do in the long run?
Career #s
Durant FG% .467 Carmelo .455
PPG 26.1 Carmelo 24.5
Assists 2.8 Carmelo 3.1
Rebs 6.6 Carmelo 6.3
FT% .878 Carmelo .805
You're not saying anything with the "leader, smart player, winner" crap. Melo was always the leader on the floor for the Nuggets and he's never had a losing season or missed the playoffs in the west. He's has multiple 50-win seasons regardless of player changes. He even co-existed with Allen Iverson with no on-court issues. He was a key part of USA Basketball's "Redeem Team" in '08. He went to the WCF in '09. He had surgeries for the first time in his career on his knee and elbow last May and he hasn't looked the same since. It's been a hectic season, but now it looks more like a confidence issue. It's clearly his worst season offensively, so of course it's easy to pile on now. How a person can wait until he's having far and away his worst season and then say "this is who he always was" is beyond me.
People have been hating on Melo and then looking to Durant as some anti-Melo to look up to, even though the numbers tell the true story. Even when Melo signed his 5-yr/$80M contract when D-Wade and Lebron signed 3-yr deals, nothing was said. When Durant signed his 5-yr deal he was praised as "loyal." SMH. I guess...
Melo will be back.
2010 | 2012 | DEN/TOT/NYK | 185 | 6683 | 21.2 | .542 | .472 | 5.7 | 15.6 | 10.7 | 16.5 | 1.5 | 1.0 | 10.7 | 32.2 | 108 | 107 | 12.4 | 6.5 | 18.9 | .136 |
2010 | 2012 | OKC | 208 | 8126 | 25.3 | .600 | .520 | 2.8 | 18.5 | 11.0 | 14.3 | 1.7 | 2.0 | 11.8 | 31.3 | 116 | 104 | 26.1 | 10.9 | 37.0 | .219 |
Originally Posted by University of Nike
@ people who think Carmelo is on Durants level.
I love it.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
Originally Posted by University of Nike
@ people who think Carmelo is on Durants level.
but he's a more "complete" scorer
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
not sure what's funnier, you missing the joke or you writing up an essay in response to itOriginally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by jumpmantwenty3
not sure what's funnier, you missing the joke or you writing up an essay in response to itOriginally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by MonStar1
Originally Posted by jumpmantwenty3
not sure what's funnier, you missing the joke or you writing up an essay in response to itOriginally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
Originally Posted by JD214
Originally Posted by Rolaholic
Like Lebron doesn't have 2 sons and a wife,Dwight has 5 baby mommas to take care of,Kobe has 2 daughters and a nasty divorce he's going through right now and he's still playing out of his mind, Wade has 2 sons also. Are all of those keeping them from playing at the level they're playing at right now? I don't think so. All that off the court stuff is dealt with off the court. When it's time to play, everyone shows up no matter what might be going on in their personal lives.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
You have to remember, he has a son now so he can't spend as much time practicing because he has to do the daddy/husband thing around the house.
The excuses you guys come up with are always comedy,what's next "Oh his house is huge so he has to use up a bunch of energy just to get around so he's already tired when the game starts".
In my opinion Melo in Denver from '06-'08 and maybe even '09 was top 10. He's been a shadow of his former self since being traded.
This dude.