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Is Kevin Durant the last NBA Superstar for awhile?
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You're ready to pencil Anthony Davis in for 10 all star games ?
Stop.
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Barring any serious injuries, yes. It's a little bit of hyperbole, but Even if he doesn't accumulate that many - he'll be there more often than not.Originally Posted by NooEra
You're ready to pencil Anthony Davis in for 10 all star games ?
Stop.
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his thin frame seems to be his only knock & it's way overblown.Originally Posted by NooEra
You're ready to pencil Anthony Davis in for 10 all star games ?
Stop.
Even had a dude at my gym say he won't leave school because of it.
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Man listen
You can put all the numbers out there in the world, but Lebron is not clutch. If you give him the ball with 5 seconds left you are stupid. That All Star Game said it all, Lebron handling the ball with seconds left, not even looking for the shot, but to PASS, and then to turn it over when the most clutch shooter on the East (Melo) is next to you?
You can call him a superstar based on talent and popularity, but Larry Bird said it best, if he had to chose one player, Lebron would be fun to play with, but Kobe is gonna get you the win, because of his heart and desire.
I don't know what the criteria is for a superstar, but Durant WILL BE THAT GUY, and AUSTIN RIVERS IS NEXT
You can put all the numbers out there in the world, but Lebron is not clutch. If you give him the ball with 5 seconds left you are stupid. That All Star Game said it all, Lebron handling the ball with seconds left, not even looking for the shot, but to PASS, and then to turn it over when the most clutch shooter on the East (Melo) is next to you?
You can call him a superstar based on talent and popularity, but Larry Bird said it best, if he had to chose one player, Lebron would be fun to play with, but Kobe is gonna get you the win, because of his heart and desire.
I don't know what the criteria is for a superstar, but Durant WILL BE THAT GUY, and AUSTIN RIVERS IS NEXT
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How do you make this argument based on an All-Star Game, of all games... and when in the same All-Star Game KOBE misses 1 of 2 free throws with 18 seconds left that would have sealed the game, and MELO misses a critical, wide-open 3 with 23 seconds left, and DURANT makes a terrible turnover in his own backcourt to DWill with under 2 minutes left that let the East be in the game at all? ... And then conveniently ignore that when Lebron re-entered at 6:48, he made two crazy 3's and a foot-on-the-line long 2 to make the game even close at all, as well as assists to Wade and D12 (leading to a dunk) during the same stretch.
"But naw, none of that matters! It's only the last shot that counts!!!!"
Let's say Deron Williams makes his 3 at the end of the game to win the game for the East. Would have been a legit assist for Lebron, giving him 8 points (all on tough, long shots) and 3 assists all in crunch time. Would you be ready to say, then, that Kobe choked the game away as well? You can't just pick and choose examples and dictate false microcosms to be indicative of anything other than your own confirmation bias.
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Some of you guys really believe this, huh?
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Man, what!?
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Why not? You never know.
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So I guess Derrick Rose and Blake Griffin don't exist?
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Jordan-Shaq-Kobe-LeBron-Durant-?
Is this what you have in your mind op?
Is this what you have in your mind op?
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Also I didn't want to say it, but ever since I saw Wiggins put up 20 points in 20 minutes as 15 year old against the USA (a team with Drummond, Beal and MKG on it), I knew it was real.
I woul be really surprised if i didn't see him in an all star game at some point, which is probably insane to say about someone his age.
I woul be really surprised if i didn't see him in an all star game at some point, which is probably insane to say about someone his age.
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There will ALWAYS be someone else. So no, Durant is not the last one for a while.
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I don't see how Durant will pass LeBron any time soon. I love KD, humble dude, from the area, but LeBron is LeBron. Nope.
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Im goin in for closer inspection... will b courtside tonight
tickets in Philly ae hella cheap... less than 4 bills for 2 right beside the thunder bench
check for me. dunno what kicks ill rock jus yet. wc ivs or space jams for sure tho
tickets in Philly ae hella cheap... less than 4 bills for 2 right beside the thunder bench
check for me. dunno what kicks ill rock jus yet. wc ivs or space jams for sure tho
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Unless he grows 3 inches, he has bust written all over him.
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I dunno if hes the last star for awhile or whatever but I d believe he will be he all time scoring leader...
dude is 7 foot... legit 7 foot with the game he has... its ******ed. he had like 7 pts halfway thru the 3rd... ended with 20 summin easilyyyy
and i now see y Russy is so big headed... he can do whatever he damn well please, take the contact and finish... he ran through lavoy allen like half a dozen times
i didnt get any pics of the fight cuz I was too busy yellin for my Evan Turner to let them hands go
Iggys frame in real life....
no momo dude is shredded
dude is 7 foot... legit 7 foot with the game he has... its ******ed. he had like 7 pts halfway thru the 3rd... ended with 20 summin easilyyyy
and i now see y Russy is so big headed... he can do whatever he damn well please, take the contact and finish... he ran through lavoy allen like half a dozen times
i didnt get any pics of the fight cuz I was too busy yellin for my Evan Turner to let them hands go
Iggys frame in real life....
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exactly lebron is a defensive monster kd does not have any defense at all.
if u look at any superstars like jordan kobe lebron they all have made defensive 1st team.
the only thing holding lebron back is his missing clutch if he ever gets that he will probably be the best in the league for a while.
i think if kd applies himself more and gets a little more muscle he will be very good on defense due to his 6'10- frame
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I agree about KD's defense though. He can play d, when he "wants to" i.e crucial 4th quarter possessions but if he figured out like LeBron how to dominate on that end for the entire game, or how to want to anyways, could be scary.
Like tonight, the Magic were down 5 with very short time remaining, he's guarding Ryan Anderson knowing they need a 3, and he's like 5ft off of him sunken toward the paint and doesn't even get a hand up and Anderson just walks right into a 3 and knocks it down. That's just a lack of focus, or caring.
Sometimes I wish Coach Brooks held him, and Westbrook, and everyone else more accountable at times.
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which superstar didnt have muscle?Originally Posted by Scientific Method
at people still talking about "muscle." KD is basketball strong, all that matters; perenially amongst the top of the league in getting to the ft line, and 1s (taking contact and still finishing), and doesn't miss games with injury. Who cares how many reps he can do of a bar? Okafor did 22 reps, how'd that work out for him? DJ Mbenga? Rafael Arruajo?
I agree about KD's defense though. He can play d, when he "wants to" i.e crucial 4th quarter possessions but if he figured out like LeBron how to dominate on that end for the entire game, or how to want to anyways, could be scary.
Like tonight, the Magic were down 5 with very short time remaining, he's guarding Ryan Anderson knowing they need a 3, and he's like 5ft off of him sunken toward the paint and doesn't even get a hand up and Anderson just walks right into a 3 and knocks it down. That's just a lack of focus, or caring.
Sometimes I wish Coach Brooks held him, and Westbrook, and everyone else more accountable at times.
sasha vujacic?
i seriously cant think of a skinny superstar
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How bout the dude Durant is commonly compared to? George Gervin. He was pretty good.
at thinking muscle had any correlation to their superstardom, particularly when talking about a wing player.
Wonder how many reps of 185 Gervin would do if they had the combine back then, and how much people would take it and say he can't be an effective NBA player because of it. He even looks skinnier than Durant.
Wonder how many reps of 185 Gervin would do if they had the combine back then, and how much people would take it and say he can't be an effective NBA player because of it. He even looks skinnier than Durant.
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I always thought t-mac was a little on the thinner side, especially in his early years. Although it's tough to come close to how thin Durant is. The stuff he does is still unreal.Originally Posted by odog24
which superstar didnt have muscle?Originally Posted by Scientific Method
at people still talking about "muscle." KD is basketball strong, all that matters; perenially amongst the top of the league in getting to the ft line, and 1s (taking contact and still finishing), and doesn't miss games with injury. Who cares how many reps he can do of a bar? Okafor did 22 reps, how'd that work out for him? DJ Mbenga? Rafael Arruajo?
I agree about KD's defense though. He can play d, when he "wants to" i.e crucial 4th quarter possessions but if he figured out like LeBron how to dominate on that end for the entire game, or how to want to anyways, could be scary.
Like tonight, the Magic were down 5 with very short time remaining, he's guarding Ryan Anderson knowing they need a 3, and he's like 5ft off of him sunken toward the paint and doesn't even get a hand up and Anderson just walks right into a 3 and knocks it down. That's just a lack of focus, or caring.
Sometimes I wish Coach Brooks held him, and Westbrook, and everyone else more accountable at times.
sasha vujacic?
i seriously cant think of a skinny superstar
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Originally Posted by Scientific Method
How bout the dude Durant is commonly compared to? George Gervin. He was pretty good.
at thinking muscle had any correlation to their superstardom, particularly when talking about a wing player.
Wonder how many reps of 185 Gervin would do if they had the combine back then, and how much people would take it and say he can't be an effective NBA player because of it. He even looks skinnier than Durant.
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well george gervin wasnt a great like jordan or kobe so i guess kd will be a george gervin
