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Originally Posted by DipsetGeneral
Originally Posted by CertifiedSW
Why would he put In the Morning on there......
Song got terribly boring after a few spins.
Originally Posted by sillyputty
Cole ...
I'm sorry...but is anyone really thinking hes the best new rapper out right now?
I'd put KRIT so far ahead of him its not even funny.
Hes very corny to me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Roc Nation co-sign I would be willing to put serious cash on it, that NO ONE would be checking for him. He would be Mickey Factz status...or *insert random blog rapper*
Dude just doesn't have "it"...and "it" doesn't mean catchy singles or choruses. He's just boring and its starting to show. None of his features are that great and he hasn't delivered since his feature on "Star is Born"...
Fake grunts and aggression on tracks doesn't mean anything to me. Its contrived and you can clearly tell. Most of his fans are fans of nostalgia, not his actual talent.
Go ahead and support this fella, I know you all will...just know that you'll end up ranking it higher than it deserves to be.
It will be just like FNL... hot for the week it drops and then
I find it interesting that those who dislike Cole generally label him "corny" or "boring" but then have no examples to support either statement.Originally Posted by sillyputty
Cole ...
I'm sorry...but is anyone really thinking hes the best new rapper out right now?
I'd put KRIT so far ahead of him its not even funny.
Hes very corny to me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Roc Nation co-sign I would be willing to put serious cash on it, that NO ONE would be checking for him. He would be Mickey Factz status...or *insert random blog rapper*
Dude just doesn't have "it"...and "it" doesn't mean catchy singles or choruses. He's just boring and its starting to show. None of his features are that great and he hasn't delivered since his feature on "Star is Born"...
Fake grunts and aggression on tracks doesn't mean anything to me. Its contrived and you can clearly tell. Most of his fans are fans of nostalgia, not his actual talent.
Go ahead and support this fella, I know you all will...just know that you'll end up ranking it higher than it deserves to be.
It will be just like FNL... hot for the week it drops and then
Originally Posted by Rafool
You think he's corny but decide to write a whole paragraph dedicated to him.
Everyone has an opinion on how they feel about certain artists so I'm not calling you a hater, but why waste your time telling us this if you think he's corny, or doesn't have "it". First time I ever listened to him I didn't even know he was signed to Rocnation, so there goes one of your theorys.
At the end of the day everything you just expressed is opinions, not facts.
I know damn well if someone asked me if I was the best at what I did I'd say you're damn right, it's called having self confidence.
P.S. Fake grunts may not mean anything to you but they get you places, just ask Rick Ross. UNGH!!!
Again, there is no pleasing critics...Ha. Nothing I say will legitimize my argument in your eyes so i'll say this and hopefully i'll be done.Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23
I find it interesting that those who dislike Cole generally label him "corny" or "boring" but then have no examples to support either statement.Originally Posted by sillyputty
Cole ...
I'm sorry...but is anyone really thinking hes the best new rapper out right now?
I'd put KRIT so far ahead of him its not even funny.
Hes very corny to me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Roc Nation co-sign I would be willing to put serious cash on it, that NO ONE would be checking for him. He would be Mickey Factz status...or *insert random blog rapper*
Dude just doesn't have "it"...and "it" doesn't mean catchy singles or choruses. He's just boring and its starting to show. None of his features are that great and he hasn't delivered since his feature on "Star is Born"...
Fake grunts and aggression on tracks doesn't mean anything to me. Its contrived and you can clearly tell. Most of his fans are fans of nostalgia, not his actual talent.
Go ahead and support this fella, I know you all will...just know that you'll end up ranking it higher than it deserves to be.
It will be just like FNL... hot for the week it drops and then
I'll admit it...I tried so hard to like this guy since it seemed that there was a popular aspect to him...but its really just not there...Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
nahh silly putty it aint that its the fact that when it comes to Cole I think alot of yall dudes that dont like him voice your opinion in protest and disbelief that he actually has fans and built his fanbase on his on.
its countless rappers that I dont like, but I let em rock. I dont even check to see if they made improvements unless its just coincidentally or I have a reason to, which happened in the case of Kendrick Lamar, and now im somewhat of a fan of dude.
When yall speak on Cole its like yall sit through 3 mixtapes and all his features and follow his moves and then say he is boring and corny after all that... like yall invest alot of time and energy to trying to rock with dude and then come back flaming hot and vocal and how disappointed u are that u cant be a fan
I hope you're not referring to "work out"...because that SUCKED.Originally Posted by Enchanted1
J cole is dope. Ever since FNL Ive been a fan, but he doesn't have that thing that draws people to him. And he didn't prove people wrong who said he couldn't drop a mainstream hit.
you hearing it on the radio was ONLY because the labels pushed it.
No one was rocking with that.
But I don't think he's worried that, he just wants to release a good album. Also why do people like Big Krit so much? Really another country rapper, rapping about country $*%# and some people think he's the future smh...
Krit has emotion, charisma, and a southern swagger the equivalent to the combination of all of the southern rap greats. I stand by that.
see... and the thing is its fans in here that criticize Cole, im one of them, but we just dont come across like u or others that speak on Cole like he did us sumtin foul or we cant stand the sight of him.Originally Posted by sillyputty
I'll admit it...I tried so hard to like this guy since it seemed that there was a popular aspect to him...but its really just not there...Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
nahh silly putty it aint that its the fact that when it comes to Cole I think alot of yall dudes that dont like him voice your opinion in protest and disbelief that he actually has fans and built his fanbase on his on.
its countless rappers that I dont like, but I let em rock. I dont even check to see if they made improvements unless its just coincidentally or I have a reason to, which happened in the case of Kendrick Lamar, and now im somewhat of a fan of dude.
When yall speak on Cole its like yall sit through 3 mixtapes and all his features and follow his moves and then say he is boring and corny after all that... like yall invest alot of time and energy to trying to rock with dude and then come back flaming hot and vocal and how disappointed u are that u cant be a fan
his production is lacking and his lyrics just don't impress me.
I'm a disappointed fan I guess.
Well, damn...this sure is a stupid post, but I digress....Originally Posted by sillyputty
Cole ...
I'm sorry...but is anyone really thinking hes the best new rapper out right now?
I'd put KRIT so far ahead of him its not even funny.
Hes very corny to me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Roc Nation co-sign I would be willing to put serious cash on it, that NO ONE would be checking for him. He would be Mickey Factz status...or *insert random blog rapper*
Dude just doesn't have "it"...and "it" doesn't mean catchy singles or choruses. He's just boring and its starting to show. None of his features are that great and he hasn't delivered since his feature on "Star is Born"...
Fake grunts and aggression on tracks doesn't mean anything to me. Its contrived and you can clearly tell. Most of his fans are fans of nostalgia, not his actual talent.
Go ahead and support this fella, I know you all will...just know that you'll end up ranking it higher than it deserves to be.
It will be just like FNL... hot for the week it drops and then
I never said anything about FACTS. All I stated was there were no examples of why you think he is boring or corny. If you are going to make a statment or opinion at least show some supporting reasoning for why you feel the way you do.Originally Posted by sillyputty
Again, there is no pleasing critics...Ha. Nothing I say will legitimize my argument in your eyes so i'll say this and hopefully i'll be done.Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23
I find it interesting that those who dislike Cole generally label him "corny" or "boring" but then have no examples to support either statement.Originally Posted by sillyputty
Cole ...
I'm sorry...but is anyone really thinking hes the best new rapper out right now?
I'd put KRIT so far ahead of him its not even funny.
Hes very corny to me.
Honestly, if it wasn't for the Roc Nation co-sign I would be willing to put serious cash on it, that NO ONE would be checking for him. He would be Mickey Factz status...or *insert random blog rapper*
Dude just doesn't have "it"...and "it" doesn't mean catchy singles or choruses. He's just boring and its starting to show. None of his features are that great and he hasn't delivered since his feature on "Star is Born"...
Fake grunts and aggression on tracks doesn't mean anything to me. Its contrived and you can clearly tell. Most of his fans are fans of nostalgia, not his actual talent.
Go ahead and support this fella, I know you all will...just know that you'll end up ranking it higher than it deserves to be.
It will be just like FNL... hot for the week it drops and then
I state my opinion then you come back with the "well where are your facts?" you'll do it time after time.
Every song he has dropped as a single or something to get buzz just sounds SUPER average and corny. He hasn't found himself. Hes trying to use all these stupid voice inflections to emphasize that hes talented by some means... It seems people force themselves to like his stuff because they want him to win so bad instead of actually feeling a connection to the material. Seems dishonest to me.
"girl yah MEEEAAAANNN"...
Like really dude?
Really good post Ace! I think the questions you raise are great regarding mainstream hip-hop and its fans. I think the majority of hip-hop fans are indeed the metaphor of the girl in Lights Please. There needs to be more diversity in mainstream hip-hop but because that is lacking when someone like Cole comes along and doesn't fit the mold he is deemed "boring" or "corny" which is quite sad that hip-hop fans like being fed the same message consistently.Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
see... and the thing is its fans in here that criticize Cole, im one of them, but we just dont come across like u or others that speak on Cole like he did us sumtin foul or we cant stand the sight of him.Originally Posted by sillyputty
I'll admit it...I tried so hard to like this guy since it seemed that there was a popular aspect to him...but its really just not there...Originally Posted by Ace Rawstein
nahh silly putty it aint that its the fact that when it comes to Cole I think alot of yall dudes that dont like him voice your opinion in protest and disbelief that he actually has fans and built his fanbase on his on.
its countless rappers that I dont like, but I let em rock. I dont even check to see if they made improvements unless its just coincidentally or I have a reason to, which happened in the case of Kendrick Lamar, and now im somewhat of a fan of dude.
When yall speak on Cole its like yall sit through 3 mixtapes and all his features and follow his moves and then say he is boring and corny after all that... like yall invest alot of time and energy to trying to rock with dude and then come back flaming hot and vocal and how disappointed u are that u cant be a fan
his production is lacking and his lyrics just don't impress me.
I'm a disappointed fan I guess.
like i think he should step his production up or work with other producers. but that is specifically what i have a problem with.
all the outside stuff yall address seems like yall want him to be somebody he isnt. like yall want him to cater to the mainstream and fall into the fold with all the new rappers that rap about the same thing in high dosage like money,weed, clothes, !#$#+*, and swag. which in translation = cool, hot
Why? why cant there be two or three new rappers with a shot a mainstream thats a lil different and still have a fanbase? But as it was already stated nobody says u gotta be a fan of dude music