JA Adande thinks Robert Horry is a HOF'er?!?!?

I'd vote for him. Obviously, not a first balloter or anything, but why not?

It's called the Hall Of Fame, not the Hall of Players With Really Good Stats.
 
He's not getting in IMO, but who knows how voters will vote years from now. Even Adande probably knows he won't get in, but that headline wouldntproduce clicks for their website would it?

There has to be something said for players who produce in the clutch. Because that's what big-time sports are about. No matter how Horry's teams gotthere, he always seemed to produce when called upon. Now compare that to the 26 ppg scorer who seems to always choke when the playoff pressure comes, or theHOF-type baseball player who hits .200 in his career in the playoffs. Granted its apples to oranges but I guess the point is that no matter how little Horryimpacted games in his career, he was still in the game in crunch time for good teams....and he daggered quite a few opponents. That should be applauded.

But.....Hall of Fame, best of the best? Not seeing it happening, even years from now.

As for the writer's KC Jones comparison, he obviously has a point (and every sport has old-timers in their HOFs who are questionable). But check thisout from NBA.com:
Jones, whose initials "K. C." are his given name, was a defensive standout with the fabled Celtics dynasty of the late 1950s and 1960s. Overshadowed by more glamorous teammates, the quiet, modest Jones was rarely in the spotlight, but he was the personification of success. Serving first as a reserve and then as the heir to Bob Cousy at point guard, Jones won championships in the first eight seasons of his nine-year career. He contributed mightily to the Celtics by running the offense, ball-hawking and wallpapering himself to opposing teams' star guards.

When his playing days ended, Jones continued his winning ways as a coach with six teams, employing a low-key, laissez-faire approach that won seven division titles, five Eastern Conference titles and two championships. In recognition of a career that produced more championship rings than Jones had fingers, he was elected to the Naismith Memorial Basketball Hall of Fame in 1989.

(Bill) Russell and Jones led the University of San Francisco Dons to 56 consecutive wins and back-to-back NCAA Championships in 1955 and 1956 (although Jones did not play in the 1956 NCAA Tournament because his eligibility had expired late in the regular season). Jones averaged 8.8 points during his college career. He also played on the 1956 U.S. Olympic Team that won a gold medal at Melbourne, Australia.


That's a pretty good basketball resume up for discussion to HOF voters.
 
^ However impressive it might be, his statistics don't lie, he's not that much better IF AT ALL better than Robert Horry was statistically. Horryplayed for teams (excluding Lakers) that were not dominant at their time. Right place right time? Sure, maybe, but who's to say Horry doesn't have agood coaching career ahead of him? Or maybe in the office for a team like Larry Bird's doing right now, cementing his career. Horry's career in thegame could be long from over, even though he's getting up there in age.
 
^ No one knows what Horry is going to do in the future, correct. But he was comparing him NOW to KC Jones. And fact of the matter is Jones had 8 rings withBoston as a player, 2 rings as a coach, a gold medal as a player, and was the 2nd best player on a legendary NCAA team. Both players have low career stats. ButKC has a much better team resume, and HOF voting is done on entire basketball careers on all levels.
 
Horry should be in the hall period. I've been saying it for like 3 years now. He belongs, and my reason is simple. If you were to show the history ofthe NBA, he would be all over that history for all of the clutch plays he has made. He has done something I don't think we will ever see again and that iswin titles with 3 teams. Well, you might say that someone could win a title with 3 teams, sure, but no one will ever win MULTIPLE rings with 3 teams. Something that Horry has done.

2 w/ Hou
3 w/ LA
2 w/ SA

I say he belongs.
 
I guess Horry will be first ballot in the League of Clutch HoF then!
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I see you RyGuy, I'm not discounting the fact KC Jones was a good coach, great college player and a solid nba career with lots o' rings, I just thinkif Horry has a solid career after his playing days, whether it be coach or exec people will look at KC and think, oh he's in, why not Horry? He'sdefinitely not first ballot or anything, but he's deserving of consideration. If players are held back for not having titles why should those that havemultiple be held responsible,?
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Enh, if he wins 2 more rings, I'd give a lot more consideration-like if he can somehow hit some big shots again to bring the Spurs back against the Lakersthis year and win the title.
 
He was fortunate to be with championship teams. Sure, he contributed but he's not that good as as individual player. He was always a role player butsomehow he'll make it to the HOF.
 
Originally Posted by CP1708

Horry should be in the hall period. I've been saying it for like 3 years now. He belongs, and my reason is simple. If you were to show the history of the NBA, he would be all over that history for all of the clutch plays he has made. He has done something I don't think we will ever see again and that is win titles with 3 teams. Well, you might say that someone could win a title with 3 teams, sure, but no one will ever win MULTIPLE rings with 3 teams. Something that Horry has done.

2 w/ Hou
3 w/ LA
2 w/ SA

I say he belongs.

well if anything, to look at it from another perspective, he (and everyone else involved on those championship teams) owe them to Mr. Jordan, as well asBulls management for dis-assembling the best team in 20+ years, if not ever. I think it's safe to say if #23 wouldn't have gone and play baseball fortwo years, not to mention retire (for the 2nd time) prematurely, I'm confident in saying the Bulls would have won 10-11 straight. Yes, I said 10-11. So inthat case Big Shot Rob would have...2-3 rings, MAX?
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Career--24411628.00.4260.3590.7221.73.95.62.41.10.91.162.907.9
no, dude does not belong
 
Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by CP1708

Horry should be in the hall period. I've been saying it for like 3 years now. He belongs, and my reason is simple. If you were to show the history of the NBA, he would be all over that history for all of the clutch plays he has made. He has done something I don't think we will ever see again and that is win titles with 3 teams. Well, you might say that someone could win a title with 3 teams, sure, but no one will ever win MULTIPLE rings with 3 teams. Something that Horry has done.

2 w/ Hou
3 w/ LA
2 w/ SA

I say he belongs.

well if anything, to look at it from another perspective, he (and everyone else involved on those championship teams) owe them to Mr. Jordan, as well as Bulls management for dis-assembling the best team in 20+ years, if not ever. I think it's safe to say if #23 wouldn't have gone and play baseball for two years, not to mention retire (for the 2nd time) prematurely, I'm confident in saying the Bulls would have won 10-11 straight. Yes, I said 10-11. So in that case Big Shot Rob would have...2-3 rings, MAX?
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Uh, so a 40 year old MJ and Scottie, and Dennis, and Kukoc would have beaten the Lakers in 00, 01, and 02, or the Spurs in 03, or in 05? Basicallywhat you meant to say was take away Horry's two rings with Houston had MJ not retired, right? So Horry still has about 5 to live off of.

Please tell me you didn't mean MJ was gonna be winnin in 2000 still. Come on.
 
Andande had me rolling last night when he reiterated the question of another reporter and asked
"Do you really agree there was a no call on that last play or are you just going to live with it?

to which Popovich replied with a "+%! Two eyed delayed blink". straight comedy
 
Robert Horry has no business in the Hall. All this shows is that K.C. Jones never should have been in the HOF either. This is simple Horry has never bee the2nd best player on his team. If were take role play on Chip teams I rank Toni Kukoc and B.J Armstrong over Horry in the HOF over Horry any day. While Horry hada much better and nearly polar opposite career purely as a player Harold Miner was a better player.
 
Originally Posted by doyung9

Originally Posted by CP1708

Horry should be in the hall period. I've been saying it for like 3 years now. He belongs, and my reason is simple. If you were to show the history of the NBA, he would be all over that history for all of the clutch plays he has made. He has done something I don't think we will ever see again and that is win titles with 3 teams. Well, you might say that someone could win a title with 3 teams, sure, but no one will ever win MULTIPLE rings with 3 teams. Something that Horry has done.

2 w/ Hou
3 w/ LA
2 w/ SA

I say he belongs.

well if anything, to look at it from another perspective, he (and everyone else involved on those championship teams) owe them to Mr. Jordan, as well as Bulls management for dis-assembling the best team in 20+ years, if not ever. I think it's safe to say if #23 wouldn't have gone and play baseball for two years, not to mention retire (for the 2nd time) prematurely, I'm confident in saying the Bulls would have won 10-11 straight. Yes, I said 10-11. So in that case Big Shot Rob would have...2-3 rings, MAX?
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thats a real soft "What If" argument. What if duncan didnt grow to 7 feet and he stuck w/ swimming... what if horry was boys w/ danny aingeand played out his career in phx....
 
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