Jay-Z For Dummies Vol.5 years later and ya'll still aint listening Right

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For those who remember the OG post. Ya'll know that Hov flies over alot of cats heads especially in these days where "swag" rap has fans numb to thinking deeper into lines. So ima just post a few from the previous thread and hopefully more contribute
So now I'm "Down For Whatever". Ain't "Nuthin Nice"...


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And now this Higher Learning's got the "Remy" in me. Liquor's invaded my kidneys...


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Suckers
Get your weight up
Not your hate up
Jigga man is diesel
When I lift the eight up



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You see the respect I get everytime I come through
Check your own videos, you'll always be number two
@#%$ talkin real greasy on them R&B records
but I'm platinum a million times @#%$, check the credits



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Still I still pop him
@#%$ I "grassy knoll and hilltop" him, it's all political now
I think "big" when I spit at you now
Between my dog and the figures, the four gonna get'cha
Between "life and death", they killed my spirit



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Like the idea, but you know some people here are gonna accuse you of reaching...

Would also like to see this kind of thread for Lupe too.
 
I had just found NT when that post was popping. DMP's were a heavy topic then too. Appreciated just off of the nostalgia and the fact that dudes just ain't rhyming like this anymore. Shame.
 
That Remy line is serious... The way he ends that track too -

& even if Jehovah witness, bet he'll never testify, D'Evils...

-Jehovah witnesses' feel they only have to answer to God, not man... So they'd never answer to someone in court if they don't want to.
-Jay puts so much fear into everyone, that even Jehovah wouldn't snitch
-If Jay (Hova) witnesses he wouldn't snitch... (Like Frank Lucas is cool, but I ain't tryna snitch)
 
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Got a strange way of seein life like
I'm Stevie Wonder with, beads under the doo-rag
Intuition is there even when my vision's impaired, yeah
Knowin I can go, just switchin a spare
On the highway of life
, +#+#$ it's sharp in my sight
Oh! Keen senses ever since I was a, teen on the benches
everytime somebody like Ennis was mentioned
I would turn green, me, bein in the trenches
Him, livin adventureous not worryin about expenditures
I'm bravin temperatures below zero, no hero
No father figure, you gotta pardon a +#+#$
 
Handlin' since a teen
Like LeBron or Sebastian
High school graduates
Straight to the league
I ain't waitin' for my knee to blow
Yesterday I was needin' this dough
(The Roc in this #$@%#^$&)


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Originally Posted by tyisny



@#%$ I "grassy knoll and hilltop" him, it's all political now
I think "big" when I spit at you now
Between my dog and the figures, the four gonna get'cha
Between "life and death", they killed my spirit





You gotta dive deeper G. Not just the pistol...

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Haze old post on Can I live
What the hell was this man on when he made RD? 

S_ still amazes me to this day and I listen to it daily. 

If you really analyze what he was saying on this track and how he said it...
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Jay been on his {Killer Mike} Masonic Grind {Killer Mike} for a good minute. Son is one of the greatest brains of our generation, on the low. 



My mind is infested with sick thoughts that circle like a Lexus (circular thought) 
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If driven wrong its sure to hurt you (not mastering those thoughts will ruin you) 
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[color= rgb(0, 0, 255)]Dual levels like duplexes, in unity (lower and upper self combined/alluding to dual meaning in the lyrics also)[/color]
 

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My crew and me commit atrocities like we got immunity
 

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You guessed it 
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Manifested (it) in (in)tangible goods (energy/matter follows [manifests from] thought)... 

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[color= rgb(0, 0, 255)]Platinum Rolexed it, we don't lease..we buy the whole car as you should.[/color]
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[color= rgb(0, 0, 255)]My confederation, dead a nation...EXPLODE on detonation.[/color] 

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Overload the mind of the said patient (he still referring back to the struggle of thought from the first lines
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When it boils to steam ("at the end of the day"/cooking crack allusion) and comes to it, we all fiends gotta do it...even righteous minds go through it (
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True dis (Judas 
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The street school us to spend our money foolish. Bond with jewelers and watch for intruders (crazy). 

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I stepped it up another level...meditated like a Buddhist. 
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Recruited lieutenants with ludicrous dreams of gettin cream, lets do this (wordplay = 
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It gets te-di-ous...so I keep one eye open like CVS (unfair 
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You see me stressed, right?!.... 

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A lil off topic but I remember reading (not on NT) a long post from a dude who was breaking down every line in 'Black Republican' and explaining the underlying meanings etc and how basically the whole jay/nas beef was a set up whole time. 

Anyone got this?

i don't know about that but i made a post on NT way back in response to a thread about how Success is better than Black Republican:

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Black Republican > Success byMILESLIGHTYEARS.


i don't think people understand the significance between Black Republican...as great a song as Success is, that is about the title itself..."Success,"
but as for Black Republican, each is setting a story...and mix that in with a Godfather II sample "Marcia Religiosa" which was played in a pivotal scene wherein Vito Corleone pretty much claims the hood by killing Don Fannucci...




it starts with the hook:

I feel like a Black Republican, money I got comin' in
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Can't turn my back on the hood, I got love for them[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Can't clean my act up for good, too much thug in 'em[/color]
Probably end up back in the hood, I'm like "!%!! it then"
• joint is the EXACT mindframe of Vito Corleone. he can't just turn away from the hood and watch Don Fannucci boss everyone.


now, read jay's verse and think about dame and their relationship at hand.

Huddlin' over the oven, we was like brothers then
Though you was nothin' other than the son of my mother's friend
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]We had governin', who would have thought the love would end[/color]

- The ROC was runnin things...until it ended.

Like ice cold album, all good things

- Reasonable Doubt, which they created together was the foundation of their mainstream success

Never thought we sing the same song that all hoods sang
Thought it was all wood-grain, all good brain
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]We wouldn't bicker like the other fools, talk good game[/color]
Nev imagine all the disasters that one good bring
Could bring, should blame the game, and I could
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]It's kill or be killed, how could I refrain?[/color]
And forever be in debt, that's never a good thing
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]For the pressure of success can put a good strain[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]On a friend you call best, and yes it could bring[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Out the worst in every person, even the good saint[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]And though we rehearsed it, it just ain't the same[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]When you put in the game at age sixteen[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Then you mix things like cars, jewelry, and miss thing[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Jealousy, ego, and pride, and this brings[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]It all to a head like a coin, cha-ching[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]The rule of evil strikes again, this could sting[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Now the team got beef between the Post and the Point[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]This puts the ring in jeopardy - indefinitely[/color]
tie that shh in with pretty much the theme of Godfather II.
brothers ( michael and fredo ), associates ( hyman roth and michael ), relatives ( michael and frank pentangeli )...
that shh revolved around close people having their ties disbanded because of all those things jay said at the end.

jay was admitting that he has fault too in the downfall of the original Roc, but he felt it waskill or be killed, which we see now as dame is in financial struggle and jay is in the top of the hip-hop world. he could also be implyin something withmiss thing... but i'm gonna leave that alone.

gives me the chills man. especially if you went through with this in real life. sayin nothin will come in between your boys, but shh gets in between and everything's torn apart...
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and another reason why is it's just sad to seeone ofhip-hop's greatest teamsfall like it did...
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now esco's verse:

I'm back in the hood, they like, "Hey Nas"
Blowin' on purp', reflectin' on they lives
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Couple of fat cats, couple of A.I.'s[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Dreamin' of fly *%%$ instead of them gray skies[/color]

- he referrin to two ways of gettin money / gettin out the hood.Fat Catwas a notorious ny drug dealer. and we know who A.I. is.
it was either to become these characters to attain "fly *%%$ instead of them gray skies."

Gray 5's, hate eyes wishin' our reign dies
Pitch sling pies, and %!+##$ they sing, "why"?
Guess they ain't strong enough to handle their jail time
Weak minds, keep tryin', follow the street signs
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]I'm standin' on the roof of my building[/color]
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]I'm feelin' - the whirlwind of beef, I inhale it[/color]

- Vito Corleone was standin on a rooftop tryna follow where Don Fannucci would go so he can kill him ( 0:54 on the vid above )...leading to him being The Godfather.

Just like an acrobat ready to hurl myself though the hoops of fire
Sippin' 80 proof, bulletproof under my attire
[color= rgb(255, 51, 0)]Could it be the forces of darkness, against hood angels of good[/color]

-Vito doing this would gain the respect of the hood (hood angel of good) since Don Fannucci was an extortionist and was seen as an all-around bad guy (force of darkness).

That forms street politics - makes a sweet honest kid
Turn illegal for commerce - to get his feet out of them Converse, that's my word.

-Vito was on the fence about doing illegal work before but after losing a job and having a family to provide for, he had no choice but to go the illegal route.


an epic beat by L.E.S. from a legendary movie and even more, a legendary scene+jay's introspective lyrics about his experience on the possibilities of how even the real best of friends, no matter if they decided that they ain't gon break up can still disband in hostility+nas' lyrics that are more intricately aligned with the movie÷two legendary rappers=

ONE REAL DOPE #!% SONG.

with that said,Successcan be argued as a better song line by line, but never by substance, imo.
 
all these colors and big font is interrupting my knowledge stream
 
I like threads like this where sometimes I may overlook a line in a song
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rapgenius.com is pretty good at breaking down bars in songs, depending on who wrote the interpretation of the lyrics
 
So the pen is mightier than the sword my lord

Jay plays with this theme throughout his verse... [Hovi Baby]Follow the flow[/Hovi Baby]

My first picture was a line-up, now I'm on the Forbes
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And I still remain the artiste through thees all
If you force my hand I'll be forced to "draw"
We're talking lyrics (Pen) & weapon (Sword)
If the war calls for Warhols
Hope you got enough space on your hall's walls
I make _ murals, then escape the bureau's
If war calls, he'll draw his sword (Follow the weapon theme) & get you drawn on a wall like when someone important passes (Follow the pen theme)
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I'm back for these puppies with the pound boy
(Blaow) Here's a round boy (blaow blaow) down boy
Puppies = Dogs getting taken to the pound
Puppies = small timers soon to be victims to Jay's weapon

leave _ paranoid if not paralyzed
Which means you can't walk in my shoes
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Too much green you can't talk in my hue
Too much money compared to other rappers, so they can't match him
Also... He makes too much money for anyone to talk money to him
Extend the team, _ holla at Lu'
1st and 15th, that's my cue, I'm through

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Follow the baseball / Hustler theme...

I father, I Brooklyn Dodger them
I Jack, I Rob, I sin
Awww man, I'm Jackie Robinson
Except when I run base, I dodge the pen

-Jackie Robinson (Baseball) / Jack-Rob-Sin (Hustler)
-When he moves drugs, he dodges prison
-Baseball terms - Running base (1st to 2nd, etc), pen = pennante, bull pen, penthouse...
-When he puts down lyrics, he dodges the pen... (We all know Jay doesn't write anything down)

Triple entendre...
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"And our girls are blackbirds
Ridin' with they dillingers
I'd get more in depth/Depp
If you boys really real enough

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Dillengers are a certain kind of gun, so he's saying his woman is willing to hold down the guns

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but also, making reference to the movie Public Enemies which stars Johnny Depp as bank Robber John Dillenger

In the film Depp refers to his wife as a blackbird,

Which ties in the next line, where he says i'll get more in depth/depp

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(Also has been tied to some masonic reference but i dont have all that knowledge on the particular subject
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With "The Team," no I in that
R.O.C., y'all not eyein that
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Y'all don't see, clearly cause the reign ain't gone
-Nobody is competing with the Roc because their reign was still going strong... Oh & -
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"The Dynasty," no not Ming but Shawn's
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Nope...
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Dame careems, _ it's the gangsta team
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Stop your run, one of the reasons that they call us gangrene
-If you have the disease gangrene, your foot would need to be amputated... In other words... You're not running anything.
-Meaning #2-
The other reason, we got a gang of green
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If there's better at gettin cheddar that remains to be seen...

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^^^ yup only thing is that he was referring to the ming dynasty, not yao
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 The Word Play, The Way him and Ye are pretty much questioning God on taking away those important… Then Jays Goes Off into Naming some of the greats/ while at the same time showing the failure of this “dream
 
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