Jordan IV Black/Red Reimagined - February 17, 2024

[trappedintime]

Thing is the 2019 bred 4 isn’t even durabuck. It’s a hard cheap a** nubuck that they used. Folks are just calling it durabuck but it’s definitely not. Never cared for the nubuck on the 2019s. They should’ve used the same material from the 2019 Blk/Infrareds or the last Aqua 8s. That material was a perfect representation of acceptable durabuck for this day and age.

Bro they haven’t used actual durabuck on a Jordan since 1993

 

[Magic33]

This is why 2024 > 2019 is a legit take. Neither are close to OG materials but at least the 2024 shape is .

You shape police kill me with this like you see kicks from the sides

 

[Aquarius Snake]

 

[jmilionair]

Said in an earlier post that my pair was supposed to be delivered the day after release. It can happen but it didn't with this release. They are scheduled to arrive today (6 days after drop). Not the worst but will be better once they are in hand.

 

[spiceman80]

I can confirm my pair from GOAT was indeed fake based off this video… What’s crazy is, I stood by GOAT the whole time during the StockX debacle.

After the debacle that was the Gratitude 11 release, I'm going to fall back on copping early from GOAT, or Flight Club. Although it was proven that the shoes were real and from the overseas batch. The crap I went through to finally determine it's authenticity was insane, not to mention I felt stuck having those piss yellow soles. So I ended up buying another pair on release day from DTLR. Eventually I sold them at cost, because I don't need two pairs and didn't plan to wear them after seeing the US release pair in person. At the very least, moving forward try going through ebay. At least you can see the actual shoe and you know exactly how it's There is too much uncertainty dealing with these resellers.

 

[urn0tlike]

You shape police kill me with this like you see kicks from the sides

 

[Chopsticks]

I am not going to bother with raffles. I can prob walk in the store on release day and grab my size for the double up

 

[skaterplayer808]

Mine coming in today as well. Finally!

 

[trappedintime]

I am not going to bother with raffles. I can prob walk in the store on release day and grab my size for the double up

 

[Davey Magoo]

Mines just got here.

Just got off the phone with a Nike “athlete.”

According to her, my pair is scheduled to arrive on Wednesday…even though it still says awaiting carrier pickup on UPS tracking.

…makes perfect sense.

 

[trappedintime]

Just got off the phone with a Nike “athlete.”

According to her, my pair is scheduled to arrive on Wednesday…even though it still says awaiting carrier pickup on UPS tracking.

…makes perfect sense.

I told you this days ago. Never fails.

 

[atxhitter03]

So has anyone threw this on yet? Hows the leather hold up? Looks like it will be a creasing machine.

 

[zombiejohnny]

So has anyone threw this on yet? Hows the leather hold up? Looks like it will be a creasing machine.

They def crease but since the leather is a nice tumble leather the creasing is going to look nice where it blends in with the leather.

 

[skala]

So has anyone threw this on yet? Hows the leather hold up? Looks like it will be a creasing machine.

they looking like they holding up pretty decently from the YT wear tests I seen

 

[dhtowng]

It’s the same materials


Well actually the Blk/Cement 4 is closer to the heel portion of the Infra 6s.

Definitely not the same material. That’s why the grey edges show up on 6s and they don’t on the 4s. This is a clear example to my point. It’s the whole main reason folks had to manually draw edges on the 4s because the black nubuck material lacked that detail. I thought this was known.

 

[trappedintime]

Definitely not the same material. That’s why the grey edges show up on 6s and they don’t on the 4s. This is a clear example to my point. It’s the whole main reason folks had to manually draw edges on the 4s because the black nubuck material lacked that detail. I thought this was known.

Finishing the edging is more expensive and considered a better cut. It’s more a modernization in material cost and production than trying to cut corners. And those 6’s aren’t using durabuck. As I said it’s been dead for 30 years on J’s. Nike literally bought the manufacturer to get the material off the market.

Nike still calls synthetic nubuck durabuck because they own the trademark but it’s not the same material and likely never will be. Hasn’t appeared on a Nike shoe since about 94-95.

 

[dhtowng]

Bro they haven’t used actual durabuck on a Jordan since 1993

Man you know what I mean. That’s why I said durabuck of today’s day and age. The stuff they’ve used in recent years when they try to replicate OG durabuck. This material was used on ‘19 blk/infrared 6, 2015 Aqua 8s and 2015 Bordeaux to name a few off the top of my head. ‘19 Bred 4s did not have this. They went with nubuck again.

 

[trappedintime]

Man you know what I mean. That’s why I said durabuck of today’s day and age. The stuff they’ve used in recent years when they try to replicate OG durabuck. This material was used on ‘19 blk/infrared 6, 2015 Aqua 8s and 2015 Bordeaux to name a few off the top of my head. ‘19 Bred 4s did not have this. They went with nubuck again.

I think you’re reaching that the material on the 2019s is noticeably different. Hell, I even just compared 2012s to 2019 and there’s basically no difference in the nubuck. It’s all cheap crap.

 

[dhtowng]

Finishing the edging is more expensive and considered a better cut. It’s more a modernization in material cost and production than trying to cut corners. And those 6’s aren’t using durabuck. As I said it’s been dead for 30 years on J’s. Nike literally bought the manufacturer to get the material off the market.

Nike still calls synthetic nubuck durabuck because they own the trademark but it’s not the same material and likely never will be. Hasn’t appeared on a Nike shoe since about 94-95.

Bro I never said they were using OG durabuck and I’m very aware of all that you’re say here about the history of durabuck and Nike. I think you’re missing my point all together.

 

[bundy888]

Just got off the phone with a Nike “athlete.”

According to her, my pair is scheduled to arrive on Wednesday…even though it still says awaiting carrier pickup on UPS tracking.

…makes perfect sense.

never call, erryone knows that.

 

[WASHED KING]

Just got off the phone with a Nike “athlete.”

According to her, my pair is scheduled to arrive on Wednesday…even though it still says awaiting carrier pickup on UPS tracking.

…makes perfect sense.

You are cooked.

 

[mikey23]

I can confirm my pair from GOAT was indeed fake based off this video… What’s crazy is, I stood by GOAT the whole time during the StockX debacle.

I called it man, sorry that happened to you. I've bought many times from goat and never had an issue. I got 2 pairs on the guava 4s and odd noir 4s. Hoping they clear.

 

[mikey23]

i know someone is going to take sand paper to these and do what folks did to the court purples

I just might do this

 

[Quiggles706]

Definitely not the same material. That’s why the grey edges show up on 6s and they don’t on the 4s. This is a clear example to my point. It’s the whole main reason folks had to manually draw edges on the 4s because the black nubuck material lacked that detail. I thought this was known.

They don’t show up on either. Do you even own both pairs?

 

[Girl Thats Jules]

Bro they haven’t used actual durabuck on a Jordan since 1993

Do you have a source saying the 99s were not Durabuck?

There's Eastbay pages with descriptions of Nike using Durabuck until the mid 2000s. (at least on Nikes, I forget if it's Jordan retros too)