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Drake got collabs with Mitchell and Ness, he has influence
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Drake got collabs with Mitchell and Ness, he has influence
I'm not questioning you, but I would love to hear your opinion...
Right now, is Kanye's fashion influence that much greater than Drake's?
I could see it back in the day when Kanye was doing **** a bit differently w/ the polos and what not...but now...???
Weren't his rants about wanting people to work with him and them not doing so? Not investing in his "vision".
Is that happening now? This thread seems to be about him losing a good chunk of money he's invested in his own clothes. And he's still looking for investors.
I'm not sure what you mean by major impact on the fashion world. Did you mean the Yeezy line? Or moreso him helping popularize Givenchy/Balmain etc. a few years back?
I think the only thing that's "safe to say" is that his limited edition Adidas sneakers sold out. Because that's a fact. And that was a good look for the brand.
By the same token, Rihanna boosted Puma's 4th Q earnings. I'm sure Kylie will also help. But I wouldn't call that a major impact on the sneaker world.
At the time of those rants the focus was primarily on these things
- Nike Wouldn't allow him full creative control or any royalties whatsoever, what happened later Adidas gave him full control and royalties for the sneakers
- He couldn't get enough funding to release a clothing line using fabrics equivalent to other high end lines, what happened later Adidas provided him with the materials and funding to create the line which is now in it's third season.
- High end designers, photographers, editors etc etc in the fashion world refused to work with him Due to his status as a celebrity, what happened later He was able to create relationships and collab with those same designers, the photographers that usually reserved their services for a certain demographic is now working with him on projects, same editors who told him he should quit fashion are now in the same row sitting front row next to dudes like 2 chainz
- hiphop culture or entertainers in general not being allowed to create or give input on materials, just being used to endorse product. Since he's dropped his adidas line many "entertainers" are being allowed to do capsules and in some cases (RIHANNA) full clothing lines complete with fashion week shows.
- He went from having a bare publicized fashion show a few years ago, to being one of the most covered shows in all of NYFW & presenting a collection in front of 20'000 plus people at MSG
- Adidas was the most searched sneaker brand on social media this year.
So If getting a billion dollar company to back you on some of your products, going from receiving nothing to earning royalties, Creating a complete fashion line 3 seasons deep, helping to change the perception on what an artists contribution can be to fashion, and showing that a black man can hold his own in the fashion world and generate a serious following and buzz categorizes as not having an impact. then yea he benefited in no way off of those rants.
Agreed on the creative control and royalties from Nike, but you know damn well those rants were not about having a brand like Adidas work with him
Would this thread exist if he received the funding you claim he did? It's easy to have control of things you're funding yourself.
Would stories like this exist?
http://hypebeast.com/2016/2/kanye-west-fashion-investors-lvmh
Kanye’s goals are very much apparent – dominate the fashion, music and design worlds, but we’re also aware that he’s been spending a lot of his own money to reach these mountaintops with his followers in tow
He's falling deeper into debt because the clothing lines, regardless of how many seasons in he is or where he does the showcase, doesn't seem to be a success. It's not hard to rent out the Garden on a weekday afternoon if you have the $$$
And social media searches do not = clothing sales. Again, the sneakers moved and he created a good buzz for the brand. But look at the thread you're in. He's losing money on these ventures.
If you look at dudes like Virgil or Jerry Lorenzo, those dudes are finding ways to succeed with theirs. THOSE are the guys you invest in if you're a smart company. Those are the guys REALLY doing some of the things you're talking about (along with Maxwell Osborne and others).
They just do it quietly.
you don't live in a major metropolitan area huh?Right now, is Kanye's fashion influence that much greater than Drake's?
Forgot to mention his asian partner Dao Yi Chow http://www.vogue.com/13380880/dkny-new-direction-dao-yi-chow-maxwell-osborne/
you don't live in a major metropolitan area huh?
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Right now, is Kanye's fashion influence that much greater than Drake's?
It'd be like mentioning Pharrell without Chad back in the Neptunes eraI didn't forget anything. It wasn't applicable.
But why don't you just go ahead and be clear about what you're implying?
I do, but I hardly pay attention to any fashion trends kanye is responsible for.
I didn't forget anything. It wasn't applicable.
But why don't you just go ahead and be clear about what you're implying?
It'd be like mentioning Pharrell without Chad back in the Neptunes era
I'm not questioning you, but I would love to hear your opinion...
Right now, is Kanye's fashion influence that much greater than Drake's?
I could see it back in the day when Kanye was doing **** a bit differently w/ the polos and what not...but now...???
again...
make those Yeezy Boosts as available Roshes and nobody wants them anymore because that crowd doesn't feel exclusive anymore
you don't know that.
Yes I do
Resellers vanish, the people resellers make thousands off of disappear because they don't want what isn't limited and special to them and a select group
Stussy doesn't sell at Pacsun and you act as if Stussy isn't the most iconic street wear label of all time
They sell it at Zumiez even worse. "Streetwear" brands became very accessible once diamond supply sold out the rest followed