**LA LAKERS THREAD** Sitting on 17! 2023-2024 offseason begins

The thing is we could have had it all in 2018...Cousins, PG and the majority of the core to supplement them. But the idiots in the FO ****** it up. Although they haven't been a real destination for anybody since Dr. Buss died anyway.
 
Also the terrible deals given to Mosgov and Deng have to be considered. It limits what we can bring in along side the core. With not having those deals theoretically marginal improvement would be easier to justify. But these guys individually haven't shown to really be progressing.
IMO, Mosgov and Deng haven't shown the ROI we all would have hoped to see because they are playing with young guys who don't know how to play the game yet. Mosgov and Deng aren't "leaders." Yes, they're veterans with a lot of experience but they're not the kind of players who can lead a bunch of young guys and be impactful while doing it.

Mosgov and Deng are solid role players who imo will only succeed (and consistently look good on the floor) if they're playing alongside stars. A perfect example is how well Deng played last year alongside Wade, Dragic, and Whiteside, three players who are either former All-Stars or All-Star caliber. 

I have a feeling Mitch has a solid plan for Moz and Deng. As terrible as the deals look on surface, there's still considerable value with those two players. With Paul George in the lineup, Moz instantly becomes a better player imo. With Cousins in the lineup, Deng all of a sudden doesn't have to put the ball on the floor like he was doing tonight and he would get nothing but wide open corner trey after wide open corner trey. 
 
Having two top 15 players in their primes would be ideal. But there's no way our young core will net Boogie and PG

plus, Ingram and Nance are untouchable to me
Agree with Ingram and Nance being untouchable. Everyone else is expendable.

No way we can get BOTH Boogie and PG via trade with the assets we have now. We can only get one, and hope to land the other (or another star) via free agency.
 
I wholeheartedly disagree, with their ages and lengths of both their deals they'll be damn near impossible to move. And I honestly think whatever leadership qualities they may have is negated by the lack of actual production on the floor.
 
 
 
And realistically, I don't think the Kings want any of our assets. Only shot we got at fielding a successful team is through free agency imo.
Which leads to my point: which free agent would want to come here when we have no All-Stars whom free agents would want to play with in order to improve their chances of winning a chip.

I, for one, disagree with you regarding the Kings not wanting any of our assets. ESPN in fact reported this summer that the Kings were making a push to acquire Russell in a trade prior to the draft but fizzled out because they were asking for the Lakers' #2 pick (Ingram) as well.
Well that's in the past
Go write to Mitch Kupchak that you want Boogie for DLo and let us know what he writes back to you
I'm actually really interested
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The thing is we could have had it all in 2018...Cousins, PG and the majority of the core to supplement them. But the idiots in the FO ****** it up. Although they haven't been a real destination for anybody since Dr. Buss died anyway.
Well we gonna have to live with it for now
If anything, you can spam angry tweets at the Lakers and demand a trade :lol
 
I wholeheartedly disagree, with their ages and lengths of both their deals they'll be damn near impossible to move. And I honestly think whatever leadership qualities they may have is negated by the lack of actual production on the floor.
Which is why I said that Deng and Moz would be better off playing with a superstar alongside them. 

I don't think the Lakers are planning to move them imo. I think they signed both of them as pieces to complement a player or two that they are targeting via trade. If anything, Mozgov would be the one traded imo, especially if they're trading Moz to get Cousins. 
 
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Oh I've tweeted the Lakers and Jeanie my displeasure on several occasions in strong language but haven't gotten blocked yet. Hopefully they're listening :lol I just hope they get back on the tank track now after that fool's gold start.
 
The thing is we could have had it all in 2018...Cousins, PG and the majority of the core to supplement them. But the idiots in the FO ****** it up. Although they haven't been a real destination for anybody since Dr. Buss died anyway.


How are ya'll mad at these fantasy situations that were never on the table?
 
Which is why I said that Deng and Moz would be better off playing with a superstar alongside them. 

I don't think the Lakers are planning to move them imo. I think they signed both of them as pieces to complement a player or two that they are targeting via trade. If anything, Mozgov would be the one traded imo, especially if they're trading Moz to get Cousins. 


I don't think that was the case at all. They've not shown the ability to even position themselves to even get meetings with marquee free agents yet to be projecting who gets to complement them. They behaved as a desperate team would who's floundering in that department this past summer, akin to what the Sixers were doing offering Ginobli and Crawford 20+ mil a year. Deng really can't play anymore and Mosgov is limited in his effectiveness in Luke's system. It was a stupid move anyway you slice it and it hurts us going forward even if the young guys show improvement.
 
How are ya'll mad at these fantasy situations that were never on the table?

Who's mad? It's just pointing out facts, yes the likelihood of getting both in 2018 while may highly unlikely is better than no chance at all which is the case now, strictly from a money perspective.
 
Agree with Ingram and Nance being untouchable. Everyone else is expendable.

No way we can get BOTH Boogie and PG via trade with the assets we have now. We can only get one, and hope to land the other (or another star) via free agency.

And that's the thing.

I guess you really feel trading the lakers youth for Cousins, would make the lakers good enough from a wins perspective to grab another star in free agency?

I don't see it man. The Lakers would be the Kings :lol Cousins/BI/whoever else is not winning 40 games, which is in the vicinity of how many games it would take to get a serious look from a superstar FA
 
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Luke Walton 'got his point across' to reeling Lakers, says Nick Young


NEW YORK -- Lakers coach Luke Walton challenged his players after the team suffered its eighth straight loss Wednesday night in Brooklyn, dropping Los Angeles to 10-18.

"He raised his voice. He got his point across today," Lakers guard Nick Young said of Walton, a first-year coach. "Just mentally being soft and calling us out. We got to step up to the plate. I know I'm not soft. My teammates aren't soft, so we got to show him and prove ourselves."

Lakers forward Larry Nance Jr. pointed out that Walton, known for his laid-back demeanor, has raised his voice before.

"Luke is a player's coach, but he can get onto us," Nance said.

Walton pointed out after his team's 107-97 defeat how the Lakers squandered "little moments in the game that I felt we could've made a little distance and we casually approached as a group."

He added, "As a group, as a team, we've got a lot to learn about winning and how hard it is. It's frustrating, but it's where we're at. It's like I told the guys, we're going to find a way out. When that is, time will tell."

The young Lakers, who are led by the league's youngest head coach in the 36-year-old Walton, have struggled with injuries following their surprising 9-7 start after posting a franchise-worst 17-65 record last season.

"He came in, said what he said, and it was just a challenge," said Lakers guard D'Angelo Russell. "The best thing about it is we got practice [Thursday]. We get to see who really takes what he says and goes with it and who takes what he says and it goes through one ear and out the other."

The Lakers will play the 76ers in Philadelphia on Friday. The game will be televised by ESPN.

When asked what the Lakers should focus on heading into Friday's game, Russell said, "I don't want to talk about the problems anymore. I don't want to come together as a group and talk. I want to get a great practice in and go down there [to Philadelphia] and don't say nothing. I don't even want us to talk to each other. I just want it to be a straight business approach going into this game."

Russell added, "It's not what these fans are used to. It's not what Coach is used to. Our main focus is turning around the organization, and there's losses here and there, but eight and 10 and 12 in a row -- that's not us. I don't want to talk about it anymore. I don't want guys to speak their minds -- I just want to come in and get to work."

Source:

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...allenges-los-angeles-lakers-8th-straight-loss
 
The thing is we could have had it all in 2018...Cousins, PG and the majority of the core to supplement them. But the idiots in the FO ****** it up. Although they haven't been a real destination for anybody since Dr. Buss died anyway.
cmon man, we've been talking about future summer signings for the past few years...

the team signed deng and mozgov to allow the core to grow and develop. while the core still hasnt shown all of its potential (which is arguable, case and point the past few pages) the team has gotten better. which is what we wanted. 

 you guys are forgetting, is that we are in the first post-kobe era. 

while most of the young core has been in the league for at least 2 year ....you still have to let them show out freely for  a whole season or 2 under a system that gives them that freedom (which we have now)

its a process man, not even halfway through the ******* season and some of you are already taking your shirts off

put the shirts back on, let the team get healthy so we can see if they (these kids) can rebound from this skid
 
That is a LONG read...but good.

I still like the kid. Kinda crazy that some grown men who have barber shop conversations and have probably never played on a D1 level know that a kid is a bust after 110 total NBA games...

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waiting on whiplash to start another rant soon :lol
 
That is a LONG read...but good.

I still like the kid. Kinda crazy that some grown men who have barber shop conversations and have probably never played on a D1 level know that a kid is a bust after 110 total NBA games...

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They won't ever understand a life they never lived ...
 
lol at the thread title...

dude's be so butthurt in here man :lol



if we don't beat the sixers tomorrow we're losing 15 straight :x
 
if we dont beat the sixers we're gonna see 15 pages of dudes typing with their shirts off

mamba gonna talk that tank talk

but most importantly ...
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lol at thread title smh at the same time ......this guy speaks his mind doesn't insult or call out anyone in any on his post that I've seen and just cuz he's not a "regular" or doesn't share your views he's a troll ......you "regulars" are a joke

I like coming in here and reading everyone's take I don't have to agree with every post but still like reading everyone's take on the team
 
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Bro you are really taking that 'regulars' term out of proportion.
I did not state that to shame anyone for not being a 'regular' or insinuate if you are not a usual poster you aren't allowed to post.

There is no such elitism that exists in this thread, its all good vibes (except for team tank years, and MDA years)

My point was he IS targeting specific people and their opinions, and that is making people who have never had issues entering this thread comfortably, feel uncomfortable.

If he was just posting his opinion without pushing peoples buttons or subtly clowning people for their thoughts, there would be no issue.
Its very suspicious that you dont see him targeting others, you only see the opposite.

Someone check both of their IP addresses, pls.
 
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