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So funny how quiet it is in here when we win and young guys play well 
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I'mma give Luke some credit. Seems like the team responded after the clipper game when he urged them to stick together and tonite when he asked for more passion. Maybe this will be his breakout year.
Re: player development I think Zo and Ingram are basically where D'lo and Randle were in year 2 and 3 respectively. Lots of similarities there. Not really talking numbers but eye test and their feel for the game
Re: player development I think Zo and Ingram are basically where D'lo and Randle were in year 2 and 3 respectively. Lots of similarities there. Not really talking numbers but eye test and their feel for the game
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beas made a big difference tonight 
gotta find more minutes for him while LJ out
gotta find more minutes for him while LJ out
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Mavs were 15-3 at home heading into the game so we did a great job.
Good game
Good game
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Shoulda started McGee zubac and chandler together to see what happens.
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Need Zo and Ingram to come with this same energy every night. Zo shot looks decent when he’s in rhythm. Even when he steps back and makes it a more difficult shot it’s still better than when he’s wide open and hesitates.
Ingram needs to do exactly what he did tonight every night. Avoid taking mid range jumpers and dribbling so damn much. Just get the ball and attack downhill or in transition.
Ingram needs to do exactly what he did tonight every night. Avoid taking mid range jumpers and dribbling so damn much. Just get the ball and attack downhill or in transition.
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Also for Hart to be as strong as he is, pretty quick & to have good size, he can't guard the PG/SG position well at all, i'm hoping it's just technique but dude gives up so many easy drives to the basket it's ridiculous.
As far as BI he still confuses me so much in the pick & roll because he can get a wide open midrange damn near everytime in rhythm, & when he shoots those it's a good shot for him... instead he usually holds the ball longer, hesitates a bit then throws up a midrange from like two feet closer which is always heavily contested. He gotta recognize that easier, although i like that he's always looking to get to the basket.
As far as BI he still confuses me so much in the pick & roll because he can get a wide open midrange damn near everytime in rhythm, & when he shoots those it's a good shot for him... instead he usually holds the ball longer, hesitates a bit then throws up a midrange from like two feet closer which is always heavily contested. He gotta recognize that easier, although i like that he's always looking to get to the basket.
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Why can't these dudes just learn from each other. Zo with kuz's aggression, bi with zo's vision and kuz's decisiveness, Kuz with Ingram's defense etc
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Also checked on the Numbers of our young guys while Lebron was out & it could be better but it's still some hope in there.
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BI 20/6.4/3.7 on 45/22/63
Ball 13.2/5.5/6 on 38/34/29
, However Lonzo numbers are horribly skewed because of those two games where he just wasn't shooting (two games with only 4 attempts). 5/7 games he's been at over 10 attempts & his numbers are 49/48/29 .
So In Lebrons Absence we've seen that Lonzo can carry a bigger offensive load and be pretty efficient, but dude is despicable from the line. Ingram Doesn't really look to take any threes, although i will say i think he can still be a decent spot up guy in the corners.
All in All neither Ingram or Lonzo could be the #1 guy on a good team, which is very rare thing to ask from a 20/21 year old. Luckily for us that isn't the roll they're expected to take with this team right now, and i think both of them are more than capable winning pieces when they are back in their regular roles when Lebron comes back.
W/o Lebron
BI 20/6.4/3.7 on 45/22/63
Ball 13.2/5.5/6 on 38/34/29
, However Lonzo numbers are horribly skewed because of those two games where he just wasn't shooting (two games with only 4 attempts). 5/7 games he's been at over 10 attempts & his numbers are 49/48/29 .So In Lebrons Absence we've seen that Lonzo can carry a bigger offensive load and be pretty efficient, but dude is despicable from the line. Ingram Doesn't really look to take any threes, although i will say i think he can still be a decent spot up guy in the corners.
All in All neither Ingram or Lonzo could be the #1 guy on a good team, which is very rare thing to ask from a 20/21 year old. Luckily for us that isn't the roll they're expected to take with this team right now, and i think both of them are more than capable winning pieces when they are back in their regular roles when Lebron comes back.
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Dudes overreact. We already knew flaws this team had and when take away the best player in the league and Kuz for a couple games it's gonna be bad.So funny how quiet it is in here when we win and young guys play well
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Improve the FT shooting and try to avoid the disappearing acts like (OKC & MIN) and he's on his way.
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was pretty spot on in how his and BI's development mirror Ratsull and Juju's in their respective times here. Good to hear Zo took some initiative to talk to BI after the Wolves game and express how they both gotta step it up.
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Guys we do this every time Zo has a good game 
Problem is with those mechanics he cannot be a consistent shooter. Sure, sometimes his shot will be falling and he’ll have a 20 point game. The key for him is all mental. He needs to be in attack mode so he can penetrate and dish which builds his confidence and get transition buckets.
Problem is with those mechanics he cannot be a consistent shooter. Sure, sometimes his shot will be falling and he’ll have a 20 point game. The key for him is all mental. He needs to be in attack mode so he can penetrate and dish which builds his confidence and get transition buckets.
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next game they will go back to being trash
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definitely need to see more of this from him, he had some nice takes last night. He got to the rim with two steps from the 3 point line and finished with the left to close the game out.
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but lonzo making his lay ups should be an easy thing for him to improve with a little experience around the hoop
i dont know why these guys dont use the backboard for their free throws. atleast if they miss it will bounce funny for a possible offensive rebound
i dont know why these guys dont use the backboard for their free throws. atleast if they miss it will bounce funny for a possible offensive rebound
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These are still 21 year olds they aren't going to perform great every night. We of all people should know this after what we've seen with Ratsull and Juju. I just wanna see them play smart and with effort regardless whether or not shots are falling.
Do need Kuz to find his stroke again but great having him back to spread the floor at least.
Do need Kuz to find his stroke again but great having him back to spread the floor at least.
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The whole free throw thing to me comes off as lack of practice just not a good look
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i was a fan of russell but hes too inconsistent
and when your too inconsistent on the offensive end you better be consistent on the defensive end
we still shouldnt have traded him that quick though
and when your too inconsistent on the offensive end you better be consistent on the defensive end
we still shouldnt have traded him that quick though
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I just want Zo to come up with a counter for that damn stepback . I know he's not the most sauciest guy but there's no reason he doesn't have any moves. Even a guy like Klay has a travel size bag he can get into when he wants. He was very, very gradually developing some craft last season but haven't seen much of that this year
. I know he's not the most sauciest guy but there's no reason he doesn't have any moves. Even a guy like Klay has a travel size bag he can get into when he wants. He was very, very gradually developing some craft last season but haven't seen much of that this year
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I just want Zo to come up with a counter for that damn stepback
He needs to wear some real shoes. Mans feetwork be all over the place in them BBBs.
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