Let's look at the Ten Commandments, shall we?

[lobotomybeats]

Did anyone else know that the Ten Commandments are listed in order?  I sure as hell didn't....or if I did I had forgotten.  So if some officials think that plastering them on courthouses and other government buildings helps deter crime, I think we should look at them and their punishments. Amen.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.	Severe	Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

[th=""] Commandment [/th][th=""] Alert Level [/th][th=""] Punishment [/th]

Hmmm, Harsh innit? Somehow worshiping another god other than the one who wrote the tablets is punishable by death.  I'm sure Stephen King wishes he could write his own reviews.  Quick question, what happens if you don't believe in any god?   I think I am good.  My city should thank me for their salvation and my sister should thank me for not having to be raped.  Also, why are we killing animals without any will? He's a good god, isn't he?

 

2. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image

Severe

Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed.

We get it.  You only.  If we don't understand your brilliance it's like hating on you.  Worship you, not statues of you. I wonder how god feels about birds crapping on statues of Jesus?  I am guessing he is fairly happy that the (thy) birds aren't crapping on the real Jesus.  Oh and more genocide and puppy killing for this one. 

3. Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain;

High

Capital punishment (Leviticus 24:16, Deuteronomy 18:20, Mark 3:28-29)

Wow, the first three laws are about the writer.  Again, must be nice.  This one is cut and dry really.  Saying dude's name is punishable with capital punishment, God damn it!!!

4. Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

High

Capital punishment (Exodus 31:14, Exodus 31:15, Exodus 35:2)

This one will *+#+ me, I just know it.  Just last week I forgot to take the trash to the end of my driveway because I thought it was Monday not Tuesday (God Damn Memorial Day....oops forgot about the last Commandment). Ouch. I had to make the trip to a dumpster myself.....which is way less than me being killed.   So imagine Christmas falls on a Saturday and everyone goes to Church that day and forgets to go on Sunday! Terrible.  Good thing only the offenders die then and our ladies are left unraped.

 

5. Honour thy father and thy mother:

High

Capital punishment (Exodus 21:15, Exodus 21:17, Leviticus 20:9)

This is a tricky one really.  I mean if my sister is left to be raped by my dad due to the first two commandments, does she still have to honor him?  I mean I'm not judging what god is saying, obviously he knows his *%%$.....I mean he did write this stuff himself.  But I can't imagine my sis still honoring my dad after violated by him.  I could be wrong.  We haven't discussed it. 

6. Thou shalt not kill.

Elevated

Capital punishment in some cases (For killing Cain, yes, for killing Abel, no: Genesis 4:15).

So honoring my parents is somehow more important than not killing people?  With all of the killing already mentioned in these Commandments it kinda makes sense.  God's killing people left and right.  Actually, he kinda made shot his wad with the killing thing.  It seems that if he only gave like the first two commandments (yes, still the ones about himself) punishable by killing that killing would carry a little more gravitas.  I'm not critiquing god, but how serious can you take a guy that thinks I should be killed for calling my dad a douche?

7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.

High

Capital punishment (Leviticus 20:10)

I don't know how I feel about this one.  I have never been cheated on and I have no intentions of marrying.  Again, this probably doesn't affect me.  This seems like a stiff punishment for what could just be a drunken night out.  Regardless, off with their heads. Another thing I didn't know about this one: If you marry someone who has been divorced or you divorce and remarry you are committing adultery.  RIP Larry King. Crazy huh?  But who am I to judge? God can do as he pleases, obviously, we just can't.  

8. Thou shalt not steal.

Guarded

Excessive fines or slavery: (Exodus 22:1-3). Only in rare cases such as stealing slaves, capital punishment (Exodus 21:16). Thieves caught in the night are to be executed (Exodus 22:1-3)

Now we get to the lesser ones.  Oh wait, "Only in rare cases such as stealing slaves, capital punishment and thieves caught in the night are to be executed ." If I were god (I'm not. I'm ticklish),  I'd tone it down a bit with the killing.  I'm calling his bluff.  I am guessing if I steal some slaves in the middle of the night I won't be killed.  I could be wrong and I really have no reason to look into this one.

9. Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

Low

Despisement and scorn (Proverbs 12:8)

Ok, This one is alright I guess.  I don't understand why it's here, really.  They probably could have used this space for something against genocide or not raping children.  Oh wait, in many cases those have been recommended.

10. Thou shalt not covet . . .

Low

Despisement and scorn (Romans 7:7-8)

Another tricky one, this.  So, if I covet something I can't afford or have, what part of my despisement should be directed at the advertising companies that made me covet in the first place?  Are these companies sinners for making me so damn sinful?
     

 

[dirtylicious]

geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

 

[demonbasketball04]

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[pr0phecy718]

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[popcornplaya]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats


[h3]Let's look at the Ten Commandments, shall we? [/h3]     

 

[hazeleyed honey]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Did anyone else know that the Ten Commandments are listed in order?  I sure as hell didn't....or if I did I had forgotten.  So if some officials think that plastering them on courthouses and other government buildings helps deter crime, I think we should look at them and their punishments. Amen.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.	Severe	Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

[th=""] Commandment [/th][th=""] Alert Level [/th][th=""] Punishment [/th]

Hmmm, Harsh innit? Somehow worshiping another god other than the one who wrote the tablets is punishable by death.  I'm sure Stephen King wishes he could write his own reviews.  Quick question, what happens if you don't believe in any god?   I think I am good.  My city should thank me for their salvation and my sister should thank me for not having to be raped.  Also, why are we killing animals without any will? He's a good god, isn't he?

I am going to go off on some tangent...But,this 1st commandment is greatly misunderstood for what its true literal meaning is meant to be.

I have been studying the origins of the monotheistic faiths and how they stemmed from pagan Babylonic religions. That first commandment about God saying there shall be no other Gods before me refers to the fact that during that time the jewish people were polytheists and prayed to many gods. Then there was this pantheon of Gods. Yahweh became the Jewish God. He was a very jealous god. He was the warrior god, and with that line it was meant to say you made a covenant to only make ME your god,and you better not be putting other Gods before me, as in keep me to be your ultimate and primary God. So, that is where it comes from as the Jewish people being God's chosen people. It is because they made a covenant with him that Yahweh is their God, and that they will not pray to the other Gods the other tribes prayed to even though they believe in their existence, but Yahweh is their God.

If you study and look into the actual origins, the three monotheistic faiths - Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, were all originally polytheistic religions and then later evolved to monotheistic faiths. In the case of these religions, the end of polytheism IS monotheism.

So yes, sorry I veered way off topic, but I just wanted to add that in since I am such a nerd for this stuff. 

  

 

[TheGift23]

Applause to the responses!

 

[tkthegirl]

K Thanks For Sharing.

 

[njcollector]

So, you're contesting each commandment, but not contending the 'how' they came to be?

Lol, fail thread is fail.

 

[jd214]

Dude seriously you've been going hard on religion lately

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

not really, I hold them all in the same esteem.  I was just came across the punishments for the commandments and found them to be funny.  Believe me, I don't see Christianity as any less or more crazy/sane than any other religion.

 

[lobotomybeats]

Originally Posted by Hazeleyed Honey

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Did anyone else know that the Ten Commandments are listed in order?  I sure as hell didn't....or if I did I had forgotten.  So if some officials think that plastering them on courthouses and other government buildings helps deter crime, I think we should look at them and their punishments. Amen.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.	Severe	Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

[th=""] Commandment [/th][th=""] Alert Level [/th][th=""] Punishment [/th]

Hmmm, Harsh innit? Somehow worshiping another god other than the one who wrote the tablets is punishable by death.  I'm sure Stephen King wishes he could write his own reviews.  Quick question, what happens if you don't believe in any god?   I think I am good.  My city should thank me for their salvation and my sister should thank me for not having to be raped.  Also, why are we killing animals without any will? He's a good god, isn't he?

I am going to go off on some tangent...But,this 1st commandment is greatly misunderstood for what its true literal meaning is meant to be.

I have been studying the origins of the monotheistic faiths and how they stemmed from pagan Babylonic religions. That first commandment about God saying there shall be no other Gods before me refers to the fact that during that time the jewish people were polytheists and prayed to many gods. Then there was this pantheon of Gods. Yahweh became the Jewish God. He was a very jealous god. He was the warrior god, and with that line it was meant to say you made a covenant to only make ME your god,and you better not be putting other Gods before me, as in keep me to be your ultimate and primary God. So, that is where it comes from as the Jewish people being God's chosen people. It is because they made a covenant with him that Yahweh is their God, and that they will not pray to the other Gods the other tribes prayed to even though they believe in their existence, but Yahweh is their God.  

I think this also has to do with a lot of the confusion surrounding the 2nd Commandment.

 

[Master Zik]

I think the rational ppl realize the first 5 are egotistical and the last 5 actually deal with moral goodness, being ethical, and guidelines for living your life.

There are some clear contradictions in the bible though and yes the punishments are severe.

No need to do this really. We all know that no religion is 100% right.

At the end of the day the veil of ignorance > 10 commandments.

 

[questions03]

*facepalm*...

 

[boys noize]

Originally Posted by NjCollector

So, you're contesting each commandment, but not contending the 'how' they came to be?

Lol, fail thread is fail.

wat?

 

[jerome in the house]

Originally Posted by JD214

Dude seriously you've been going hard on religion lately

.....And religion has been going hard on billions of people forever.

 

[Master Zik]

On another note can someone provide me with a site or somebody that's compiled all of the verses in the Bible, Torah, and Qu'ran where rape is condoned/okay or overlooked. Possibly the same for slavery and any other heinous crime.

 

[proper english]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

not really, I hold them all in the same esteem.  I was just came across the punishments for the commandments and found them to be funny.  Believe me, I don't see Christianity as any less or more crazy/sane than any other religion.

 o rly?
 after skimming through your original post, i've came to the conclusion that...
geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

 

[Master Zik]

Originally Posted by proper english

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Originally Posted by Dirtylicious

geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

not really, I hold them all in the same esteem.  I was just came across the punishments for the commandments and found them to be funny.  Believe me, I don't see Christianity as any less or more crazy/sane than any other religion.

 o rly?
 after skimming through your original post, i've came to the conclusion that...
geez.. you really have something against Christianity, huh?

You can't really say that until you see his opinions on other religions wherein they could equally be the same.

 

[queencitysneakerqueen]

Originally Posted by pr0phecy718

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[ryda421]

http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_10cl.htm

[h3][font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Overview:[/font][/h3]

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[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]"Some historians....have argued that the Ten Commandments originated from ancient Egyptian religion, and postulate that the Biblical Jews borrowed the concept after their Exodus from Egypt. Chapter 125 of the [Egyptian] Book of the Dead (a.k.a. the Papyrus of Ani) includes a list of things to which a man must swear in order to enter the afterlife. These sworn statements bear a remarkable resemblance to the Ten Commandments in their nature and their phrasing.....The Book of the Dead has additional requirements, and, of course, doesn't require worship of Yahweh." [sub]1[/sub][/font]


[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]The Book of the Dead was written circa 1800 BCE.[sub]2 [/sub]The Schofield Reference Bible estimates that the Hebrew Exodus from Egypt and the provision of the Ten Commandments on Mount Sinai occurred in 1491 BCE., some three centuries later. Thus, many religious liberals, historians, and secularists have concluded that the Hebrew Scripture's Ten Commandments were based on this earlier document, rather than vice-versa.[/font]

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[h3][font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]About the Egyptian "Book of the Dead:"[/font][/h3]
[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]The ancient Egyptian religion taught that person had to undergo trials after death as they proceeded towards the underworld. [/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]One major test was that the weight of their heart was compared to that of a feather. Egyptians believed that If the person had committed sin during his or her lifetime, then their heart would become heavier. The heart does naturally gain weight with age. The Egyptians might have noticed this and assumed that the weight gain was caused by the commission of sins. Unfortunately, there appears to be no chance that the deceased person can pass that test. Adult hearts weigh over a pound: an male heart weighs 280 to 340 grams. Female hearts weigh from 230 to 280 grams. [sub]3[/sub] A feather weighs a small fraction of a pound. "The god Thoth would record the results and the monster Ammit would wait nearby to eat the heart should it prove unworthy." [sub]4 [/sub]Presumably, failing this test and having one's heart eaten would not be an encouraging sign. [/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]A second second trial was that the deceased would have to recite a negative confession "when [she or] he descends to the hall of the Two Truths." In the statement, he or she swore that they had not engaged in specific behaviors while alive. According to Egyptologist Ahmed Osman, one translation of the statement reads:[/font]

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[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]"Hail to thee, great God, Lord of the Two Truths. I have come unto thee, my Lord, that thou mayest bring me to see thy beauty. I know thee, I know thy name, I know the names of the 42 Gods who are with thee in this broad hall of the Two Truths . . . Behold, I am come unto thee. I have brought thee truth; I have done away with sin for thee. I have not sinned against anyone. I have not mistreated people. I have not done evil instead of righteousness . . .
I have not reviled the God.
I have not laid violent hands on an orphan.
I have not done what the God abominates . . .
I have not killed; I have not turned anyone over to a killer.
I have not caused anyone's suffering . . .
I have not copulated (illicitly); I have not been unchaste.
I have not increased nor diminished the measure, I have not diminished the palm; I have not encroached upon the fields.
I have not added to the balance weights; I have not tempered with the plumb bob of the balance.
I have not taken milk from a child's mouth; I have not driven small cattle from their herbage...
I have not stopped (the flow of) water in its seasons; I have not built a dam against flowing water.
I have not quenched a fire in its time . . .
I have not kept cattle away from the God's property.
I have not blocked the God at his processions. [sub]5[/sub][/font]


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[h3][font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Comparison of ancient Egyptian and Hebrew texts:[/font][/h3]
[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]A comparison of the Book of the Dead text with the version of the Ten Commandments found in Exodus 20:2-17 is striking. Both consist of a series of negative statements. [/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Comparing another translation of the Book with the King James Version of Exodus:[/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Book of the Dead: "I have done away sin for thee and not acted fraudulently or deceitfully. I have not belittled God. I have not inflicted pain or caused another to weep. I have not murdered or given such an order. I have not used false balances or scales. I have not purloined (held back) the offerings to the gods. I have not stolen. I have not uttered lies or curses."[/font]

[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]Exodus 20:7-16: "Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain....Thou shalt not kill. Thou shalt not commit adultery...Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor..." [sub]6,7[/sub][/font]

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[font=trebuchet ms,arial,helvetica]One major difference between the two documents is that statues of the Gods and Goddesses formed a major part of the ancient Egyptian religion. The religion of the ancient Hebrews forbade any image or statue of Yahweh. Another difference was the Decalogue's emphasis on the Sabbath -- one day of rest each week. It is not found in the Book of the Dead or in ancient Egyptian culture.[/font]

 

[oidreez]

oh look at mister cool guy on the internet. what type of clown +!** is this?

 

[jfmartimcdandruff]

I hope he copy and pasted this garbage

 

[waveyjoneslocker]

[lobotomizedbeast] Hurr, I'm going to flex my e-pseudo-intellectual muscles by bashing a religion, hurr[/lobotomizedbeast]

 

[yes]

Originally Posted by lobotomybeats

Did anyone else know that the Ten Commandments are listed in order?  I sure as hell didn't....or if I did I had forgotten.  So if some officials think that plastering them on courthouses and other government buildings helps deter crime, I think we should look at them and their punishments. Amen.

1. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.	Severe	Genocide. Entire cities with men, women, children and animals must be killed. (Deuteronomy 2:33-34, Numbers 21:34-35, 1 Samuel 15:2-3, Joshua 6:21. Joshua 10:40) In some cases you can keep the girls alive for raping. (Numbers 31:15-18)

[th=""] Commandment [/th][th=""] Alert Level [/th][th=""] Punishment [/th]

Hmmm, Harsh innit? Somehow worshiping another god other than the one who wrote the tablets is punishable by death.  I'm sure Stephen King wishes he could write his own reviews.  Quick question, what happens if you don't believe in any god?   I think I am good.  My city should thank me for their salvation and my sister should thank me for not having to be raped.  Also, why are we killing animals without any will? He's a good god, isn't he?

[h2]Numbers 31:15-18 (King James Version)[/h2]
 [sup]15[/sup]And Moses said unto them, Have ye saved all the women alive?

 [sup]16[/sup]Behold, these caused the children of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to commit trespass against the LORD in the matter of Peor, and there was a plague among the congregation of the LORD.

 [sup]17[/sup]Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

 [sup]18[/sup]But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

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lmao way to misrepresent an entire passage. It doesnt say go rape everybody. It says that you can spare the women that are pure and they can be part of your group. Comeon man, in any time of pursuit of knowledge, you should be trying to find the TRUTH, not twist things to get the truth. Taking random phrases out of the bible in an attempt to come up with some pseudocreative bull is just :smh