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Ummm Nets, Wolves etc are high level now?
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There isn't a KAT talent in this draft for one. And EVERY player is a project. You don't enter the league at your peak. That's a ridiculous line of reasoning
Exactly where I was goin.
KAT is 3-4 years away from who he'll be. Kobe was 3-4, Durant was 3-4, LeBron was 3-4, Steph took 3-4, I mean, what the **** man? Why the sudden rush to make players reach their peak immediately?
The point is to acquire all the talent we can, and develop them. As they all start growing and learning, the team will start to improve by leaps and bounds.
Ben Simmons can't make a shot from 5 feet, but you think he's comin in rookie year and ownin the NBA?
C'mon man.
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We agree to disagree. I think both Simmons and Ingram are NBA ready impact guys right now. Technically yes they're all projects but there's varying learning curves and for us to be real players next summer in free agency it would really help if said guy is further along. Where did I ever say they have to come in at their peak y'all just be making stuff up.
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In terms maybe you guys can understand since it seems to be misconstrued what I'm saying.
Is there a significant gap where KAT is right now as a talent and ability in his rookie year compared to D'Lo?
Is there a significant gap where KAT is right now as a talent and ability in his rookie year compared to D'Lo?
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Yeah but we knew that going in so that's not saying much. You're notorious for not knowing when to eat crow though so it's not a shock. But you don't make any sense. We have right now the third best rookie in a very very good class. And that's with him playing sporadically for a coach that's not even trying to teach. You're not gonna accept the fact that you spoke too soon about a 19 year old
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So if we know that going into this draft as well that there's a significant gap between Simmons/Ingram and the rest of the field, what's the issue with moving the pick if it's 3 for a guy who already is more developed? Especially if you're trying to lure guys here with promises of a great young core.
And I've been off the bust wagon for a while but thanks for keeping tabs.
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Lmao at Simmons and Ingram not being projects. Every draft pick is a project. You're delusional if you think Simmons or Ingrams will make a significant impact right away next year.
Which draft pick in the last 15 years hasn't been a project?
Bron, Melo, Unibrow, KD, BG (sat out a year so he was a project too) KAT? That's really all I got. And then look at how many one and done freshman came into the league and made an impact right away. This isn't MJ or magic coming into the league at 21/22.
No guard has ever come into the NBA and made an impact at 19.
Why were we clamoring for DLo to get 35 minutes a game since November? Because his growth curve would have been so much quicker. of course he's not ready to dominant at 19, but he'd be in a better position today if he had been getting 30+ minutes all year.
Which draft pick in the last 15 years hasn't been a project?
Bron, Melo, Unibrow, KD, BG (sat out a year so he was a project too) KAT? That's really all I got. And then look at how many one and done freshman came into the league and made an impact right away. This isn't MJ or magic coming into the league at 21/22.
No guard has ever come into the NBA and made an impact at 19.
Why were we clamoring for DLo to get 35 minutes a game since November? Because his growth curve would have been so much quicker. of course he's not ready to dominant at 19, but he'd be in a better position today if he had been getting 30+ minutes all year.
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So is kristaps still the 2nd best player from this draft? Or did DLO gain his spot back?
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Yeah I'm done for a few hours, people can't read.
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Read it again. Slowly and out loud, with your finger underneath each word as you go.
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So what am I missing? It wouldn't have more validity if it was against teams with an actual pulse? I want to see how he and the team competes against the teams that are decent to good/great. I don't give much credence to what happens against teams that are as bad as we are.
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Ok I guess we just see things differently. I'm encouraged when I see young players on bad teams play well against other young players/bad teams. To me it shows promise and gives you an idea of what they project to be in the future once they gain experience and mature.
I expect young dudes to get washed against elite vets and don't hold it against them. If they show flashes against the best players and teams it's encouraging, I mostly look for them to not keep repeating mistakes. Big reason I've been so high on JC is because he held his own against elite players all last year. But I wouldn't expect a first grader to grasp high school concepts and I cut first year players the same slack in that sense.
I expect young dudes to get washed against elite vets and don't hold it against them. If they show flashes against the best players and teams it's encouraging, I mostly look for them to not keep repeating mistakes. Big reason I've been so high on JC is because he held his own against elite players all last year. But I wouldn't expect a first grader to grasp high school concepts and I cut first year players the same slack in that sense.
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when are we changing the poll?
comic book movies suck.
comic book movies suck.
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Uh, because they're rookies. At this point building a team> buying, or trading for, a team. See, New Orleans. They could have had Noel and Anthony. But decided to trade for a developed player...they're screwed for the foreseeable future. But hey we're the ones not reading. Also you being of the bust bandwagon now doesn't stop the months you were on it before which created this in the first place.
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Has Porz had any kind of drop off recently? I would assume D'Angelo has thrown himself back into the convo for second best.
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Yeah his 3s and rebounding has taken a slide.
I would say they are pretty even, but current trend is in Russell's favor.
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Julius worrying anyone else?
Not seeing a lot of progress in his game.
I ain't talkin about his stats, his fundamentals.
Not seeing a lot of progress in his game.
I ain't talkin about his stats, his fundamentals.
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Right hand, finishing, midrange, efficiency, decision making all steadily improving
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He is improving but it's hard to tell with one dimensional players. I've noticed it takes those types of players an offseason to hone in the skills before it shows night in and night out. In all, I hope he'll develop as a Milsap-level player. Not in terms of play style, but impact on the game.
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Yea you don't really improve on fundamentals during the season. Too hard to with everything else going on.
You hone your fundamentals in the offseason when you have hours upon hours to do repetitive drills.
You hone your fundamentals in the offseason when you have hours upon hours to do repetitive drills.
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He's a double double machine and leads the Lakers in Rebounds.
He's a rookie.
He'll be fine.
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Your response is exactly why I specifically said "I ain't talkin about stats."
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I dunno man. When I watch him play I see him understanding the game better. Not repeating the same mistakes from earlier on and showing some polish to his skills. His passing and help defense are still lagging but almost everything else is going up.
There was like a 2 week stretch in the first half of the season where he looked REALLY bad but that seems to be behind him
Yall should watch the pre/post game show sometimes. Worthy gives some good insight on what's actually happening in practice
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I will say it will be interesting tracking Julius next season. Will he improve on his weaknesses or will he instead just focus on his strengths?
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