LOCK IT UP - College Football - 2009 Season/2010 Off-Season

Originally Posted by 5am6oody72

Originally Posted by after h0urs

Originally Posted by tmay407

People aren't disappointed/upset about Kiffin going after Pola. They're disappointed/upset about the way Kiffin handled it.

If you're targeting another team's assistant coach (Pola), it's common courtesy to alert the head coach of that team (Fisher) of your interests. Don't call the head coach a day after you get a call of acceptance from the assistant
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You especially don't do something like that in a profession like coaching, where there's such a strong fraternity of members.
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You guys serious with this stuff?  Common courtesy?  If CLK fails at SC, he is DONE.  With his rep, he's not sniffing another elite job for a long time.  You're telling me he was supposed to call Jeff Fisher and tell him that he's stealing his RB coach a week before training camp?  What do you think Fisher would say?  "Hey Lane, thanks for being so considerate with the call, go right ahead and take one of my most important position coaches."  Come on now 
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You guys don't realize how fragile this situation is right now.  This recruiting class is heavily linked: DeAnthony Thomas is teammates with Marcus Martin, god-brothers with Victor Blackwell, and close friends with Max Wittek and Antwuan Woods.  You even lose one of those guys and it can have a domino effect and kill the class.  SC can't afford to be recruiting mediocre classes with only 15 scholarships per year.

Like I said before, it was a snake move 100%, but it was also a NECESSARY move.
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Not to sound like a douche, but I really can't seem to ever recall you NOT explaining away/making excuses for anything Lane/your program does/has done. If you have and I'm wrong feel free to call me out on it
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Nah that's true, but my defense is that I only post when I disagree or feel the need to clarify something so my posts always slant in one direction.  I don't think what Lane did was right, but all I'm saying is I understand why he did it.  It's just another layer of perspective; not saying everyone else is wrong.
 
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The Best Finishes of 2009...

Spoiler [+]
September 5:

Ohio State 31, Navy 27
"DOBBS NOT GONNA CATCH HIM, IT'S TWO FOR THE BUCKEYES!"


Iowa 17, Northern Iowa 16
"It's blocked again! The Hawkeyes did it again!"


BYU 14, Oklahoma 13
"Hall, to the endzone, TOUCHDOWN!"


September 7:

Miami 38, Florida State 34
"Caught, TOUCHDOWN! No, INCOMPLETE! I thought Fortson had it! The Canes have survived!"


September 10:

Georgia Tech 30, Clemson 27
"Does what you expect him to do, make sure field goals, and what you don't expect him to do, a touchdown pass tonight."


September 12:

Michigan 38, Notre Dame 34
"Forcier THROWS, CAUGHT! TOUCHDOWN! GREG MATTHEWS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rTOuB0rQtM#t=03m39s

USC 18, Ohio State 15
"Right before your eyes, you're watching a freshman grow up here tonight."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imHK7utsP0U#t=02m30s

Oregon State 23, UNLV 21
"From 33 yards, it is up and through. Beavers lead, and redemption for Kahut."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7KXaPjfipM#t=05m00s

Oregon 38, Purdue 36
"Throws to the back of the endzone, Adams makes the catch, NO! NO CATCH!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCInKqppV8c

September 19:

Washington 16, USC 13
"Game on the line...HE GOT IT!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyOcFQYZGbE#t=02m55s

Virginia Tech 16, Nebraska 15
"Designedroll to the left, now comes back to the right, waving receivers around,NOBODY OPEN! RUNNING OUT OF TIME, FINALLY THROWS, AND IT IS CAUGHT!DYRELL ROBERTS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJx17nVZs7g

Notre Dame 33, Michigan State 30
"Unloaded under pressure, it's intercepted! Kyle McCarthy!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzKrZmJ_Ve0#t=05m25s

September 26:

Michigan 36, Indiana 33
"Forcier going to the endzone, he has a man open for the touchdown!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igsmIi4V0EM#t=08m50s

North Carolina State 38, Pittsburgh 31
"Stull looking to the back of the endzone, no one there!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3qiIliX4so#t=02m25s

Georgia 20, Arizona State 17
"Georgia wins!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQvEcy5nKOc

Iowa 21, Penn State 10
"BLOCKED! SCOOPED UP! THIS IS GONNA BE A HAWKEYE TOUCHDOWN! THIS IS CLAIBORNE, THE BIG DEFENSIVE END!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTJxUqq0400#t=03m41s

Notre Dame 24, Purdue 21
"Clausen, to the endzone, TOUCHDOWN! And guess who?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ug5vwL1EVQ

Houston 29, Texas Tech 28
"Remember, Keenan can run,. Quarterback draw, TOUCHDOWN!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBauzHaRK9w

October 3:

Northwestern 27, Purdue 20
"Looking across the field and he misses Valentine! The Northwestern defense comes up with the stop! Just three seconds to go!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLFwXi_s6c#t=07m30s

Michigan State 26, Michigan 20 (OT)
"Caper, cutting it back, Caper, BREAKS A TACKLE! GOT A FIRST DOWN, TO THE HOUSE, TOUCHDOWN! MICHIGAN STATE HAS WON!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvUTwFuh9r4#t=07m45s

Notre Dame 37, Washington 30 (OT)
"It is incomplete, and Notre Dame wins in overtime!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sxKLrmt6fQ#t=09m00s

LSU 20, Georgia 13
"WHOA, HERE GOES SCOTT, TOUCHDOWN LSU!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7aa5O57Om8#t=01m50

October 10:

Washington 36, Arizona 33
"Mason Foster the pick, the ten, TOUCHDOWN WASHINGTON!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMvpKvPxv30#t=02m25s

October 17:

USC 34, Notre Dame 27
"Jump ball, CAUGHT BY KYLE RUDOLPH! But was he in the endzone or out of bounds?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvR_rFKMJyU#t=05m25s

Florida 23, Arkansas 20
"Hammered this one right down the middle."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL5XnXzI83I#t=02m30s

Kentucky 21, Auburn 14
"Left side, he's got room, touchdown Kentucky!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jIaxhVDltM#t=1m16s

Arizona State 24, Washington 17
"HAS IT, TOUCHDOWN! HOW DO YOU LIKE IT?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lANcioqeCo4#t=02m00s

October 22:

Florida State 30, North Carolina 27
"Fires to a WIDE OPEN MAN, and a Touchdown!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb9XhosvAg8#t=09m05s

October 24:

West Virginia 27, Connecticut 24
"NOEL DEVINE! STAYS ON HIS FEET, TOUCHDOWN WEST VIRGINIA!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh0MbPqlfCs#t=01m30s

Northwestern 29, Indiana 28
"Northwestern has climbed back from a 28-3 deficit!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIrkG8Jyouk#t=06m30s

Clemson 40, Miami 37 (OT)
"To the middle, caught Ford, INTO THE ENDZONE, CLEMSON WINS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0Pv-5yVxm4

Alabama 12, Tennessee 10
"BLOCKED AGAIN! CODY AGAIN! ALABAMA WINS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5El03CbLam0

Notre Dame 20, Boston College 16
"Hit as he delivers, and this one is picked off!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdgViWzEUg8#t=07m40s

Iowa 15, Michigan State 13
"Last play of the game, Stanzi, McNutt, TOUCHDOWN!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p9xT-7-UkU

October 29:

North Carolina 20, Virginia Tech 17
"What a rally by the big underdogs from North Carolina!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giAEIBx3qLE#t=07m48s

October 31:

Rutgers 28, Connecticut 24
"Has his man, TIM BROWN! 20, 10, 5, Touchdown Tim Brown! 81 yards, can you believe it?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZwiWu-XqZ4

Florida State 45, North Carolina State 42
"Green, to the endzone, touchdown Seminoles!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzdICvSm5EE#t=08m18s

Miami 28, Wake Forest 27
"Harris flips it to the goalline, underthrown, TOUCHDOWN! Travis Benjamin makes the touchdown catch!"

November 1:

Central Florida 21, Marshall 20
"There's nobody there, TOUCHDOWN!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Auz3I0_l1t4#t=02m40s

November 7:

Northwestern 17, Iowa 10
"And there will be just six unbeaten teams left in college football!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXq5FWo73M#t=08m40s

Colorado 35, Texas A&M 34
"Hanson, middle, OH WHAT A CATCH! WHAT A CATCH! COLORADO HAS TIED IT UP!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyasxBebCkc#t=41s

Georgia Tech 30, Wake Forest 27 (OT)
"Nesbitt scores, Georgia Tech wins in overtime!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5XPLs8-seA

Alabama 24, LSU 15
"Gets by the safety, and he's got a chance! The chase is on, and it will be won by Julio Jones!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkGxyAV7ofU

Houston 46, Tulsa 45
"Good hold, IT'S GOT THE DISTANCE, IT IS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwTzakGWb64#t=04m50s

Cincinnati 47, Connecticut 45
"He's gonna give it to his runningback, and his runningback got...touchdown! Isaiah Pead!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bb3TjlIiLE0

November 14:

Ohio State 20, Iowa 17 (OT)
"Fora share of the Big Ten Title, and a chance to win it outright nextweek, and a guaranteed spot in a BCS Bowl, from 39 yards, Barclay up,and GOOD!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkmx507ibME#t=03m53s

Georgia 31, Auburn 24
"King, with a KINGLY RUN, touchdown!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXgoSL6l2dY#t=01m25s

November 21:

Connecticut 33, Notre Dame 30 (2OT)
"Dixon, for the WIN!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Imdc8Ap-jEg#t=03m59s

Mississippi 25, LSU 23
"WHAT ARE THEY DOING? WHAT ARE THEY DOING?!?!?! Game over."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1X1Ylpa258c#t=05m13s

California 34, Stanford 28
"Luck throws, INTERCEPTED AT THE 3 YARD LINE!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMV59HWQgzI#t=04m35s

Oregon 44, Arizona 41 (2OT)
"Masoli, Oregon wins it! The Ducks will play Oregon State in Eugene for the right to go to the Rose Bowl."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUuQ5ain6fQ#t=08m02s

November 27:

Alabama 26, Auburn 21
"Another rollout, McElroy, TOUCHDOWN UPCHURCH!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIaXrtF7xJY#t=06m20s

West Virginia 19, Pittsburgh 16
"43 yards out, for the win for the Mountaineers, Bitancourt."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DceRp5UgFQ4

November 28:

North Carolina State 28, North Carolina 27
"Oh pressure, EJ Wilson hit him but it didn't matter!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2238hkYCTQ#t=07m10s

Missouri 41, Kansas 39
"And Missouri wins it in improbable fashion!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXRIlClkkvM

BYU 26, Utah 23 (OT)
"Throwing it over the middle, IT'S CAUGHT! ANDREW GEORGE! TOUCHDOWN BYU!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKuI-zjxVdk

LSU 33, Arkansas 30 (OT)
"Kick is on the way and it's....NO GOOD! HE MISSED IT!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBdhFqD_kww#5t=02m00s

Stanford 45, Notre Dame 38
"Incomplete, and Stanford's gonna win it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dg6PA7xeVIM#t=02m45s

December 5:

Cincinnati 45, Pittsburgh 44
"To the endzone it goes, CAUGHT! TOUCHDOWN, ARMON BINNS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT20DAtK_iE#t=03m20s

Fresno State 53, Illinois 52
"How about this for the wild and wacky?"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHQ7uEj1tqM

Texas 13, Nebraska 12
"For everything........GOT IT! TEXAS GOES TO PASADENA!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjZLxsxmBSc

December 19:

New Mexico Bowl - Wyoming 35, Fresno State 28 (2OT)
"Still looking, still up and now goes down, throws it out sideways, and that's it!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ylto9wTunQ#t=08m05s

December 30:

Humanitarian Bowl - Idaho 43, Bowling Green 42
"Enderle, over the middle, HE SCORES! PRESTON DAVIS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcCJqr4pPsE#t=03m18s

January 1:

Outback Bowl - Auburn 38, Northwestern 35 (OT)
"IT'S A FAKE! To the two, ball comes out, AUBURN WINS!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBxrjT6ViCU#t=04m55s

Capital One Bowl - Penn State 19, LSU 17
"He's hit all three today.....he's hit all four today."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=#t07m35s

January 4:

Fiesta Bowl - Boise State 17, TCU 10
"And that pass up for grabs, IT'S INTERCEPTED!"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2UX5DlB8Ds#t04m35s

January 7:

BCS National Championship - Alabama 37, Texas 21
"Crimson Tide wins the National Championship, the Bear would be proud."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjZhhnuZ-XU


I didn't make the list. And if any of them don't work, bite me.
 
I just don't understand why you think it's okay for Lane not to make that call for Fisher, that it was justified because it ultimately helps your recruiting class?

If Pola has interest in the SC job, whether it's through a third party or whatever, and if Kiffen wants to interview him, he is SUPPOSED to make Fisher aware and then conduct an interview, even if it's a mere formality. It's just standard practice and a matter of respect, especially for an established NFL head coach who is an SC alum to boot. He still would've hired Pola, it just would've been done properly instead of creating an ordeal.

Kiffen needs to grow up at some point and this isn't a sign of that happening. Instead he feels he can have everything handed to him and from there, get what else he wants.
 
Originally Posted by YoungBuck32

Originally Posted by after h0urs


Kiffin on the situation:

"We reached out to Kennedy Pola yesterday to gauge whether he had any possible interest in returning to USC before we moved forward with the process," Kiffin explained.  "Kennedy said he would think about it and get back to us today.  Once Kennedy did call back earlier today, out of my great respect for Coach Fisher I immediately reached out to Coach to make him aware of the situation."

Kiffin went on to describe his recent conversation with Fisher.

"I have spoken with Coach Fisher and he now has an accurate understanding of the timeline of events," Kiffin continued.  "We realize the timing of this isn't perfect for all parties, but this is a great opportunity and promotion for Kennedy."
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That statement means nothing. That was released on Sunday and on Monday the Titans filed the lawsuit against USC, Kiffin, and Pola. Sure doesn't seen like an understanding between all parties.
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Yeah it was a snake move and there's no question why Fisher is mad, but he's been in the media complaining about it for the past few days and now a law suit against the school? Purely out of bitterness and spite?  Really? What if he'd gotten a call from Lane and then 10 minutes later a call from Pola saying "I plan on interviewing with USC, and if they offer me the job I'm taking it 100%" would he still be suing the school?  He needs to get it over it.  The NFL poaches coaches all the time and they do it almost as shadily, if this wasn't Lane it wouldn't even be big news.
 
Some good vids in there. Funny how special teams saved LSU from a possible 6-6 season last year. Jefferson gotta make it happen this year or that hot seat's gonna be flaming next year for the Hatter.
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[h3]Southeast wins again[/h3]
For the second consecutive year, the Southeast team -- made up of players from Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas -- blew through the Gridiron Kings tournament. On Sunday, the Southeast capped its run with a 36-0 win against the Southwest team, which included players from Texas, Oklahoma and Missouri.

No defense could stop Southeast tight end Nick O'Leary. The 6-foot-4, 235-pounder from Dwyer High in Palm Beach, Fla., dominated the linebackers who tried to cover him. O'Leary is considering Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Georgia and Miami. Meanwhile, opposing quarterbacks will have nightmares about Southeast safeties Karlos Williams and Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, who each returned an interception more than 100 yards for a touchdown in the final. Williams is committed to Florida State, where older brother Vince is a linebacker. Clinton-Dix, known as "Ha-ha" to his teammates, is committed to Alabama.

ESPNU will televise the highlights of the Gridiron Kings tournament on Wednesday at 7 p.m. eastern.
 
Michael Brewer (Southwest team QB) crapped his pants in that game
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Those Southeast CBs were in straight lockdown mode
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The Best Finishes of 2009...
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Whoever made that list forgot about Oregon converting two 4th Downs to save their game against OSU and go to the Rose Bowl. Oh well.


And LOL at the Fulmer Cup. Never seen that before
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Originally Posted by Nako XL

Originally Posted by YoungBuck32

Originally Posted by after h0urs


Kiffin on the situation:

"We reached out to Kennedy Pola yesterday to gauge whether he had any possible interest in returning to USC before we moved forward with the process," Kiffin explained.  "Kennedy said he would think about it and get back to us today.  Once Kennedy did call back earlier today, out of my great respect for Coach Fisher I immediately reached out to Coach to make him aware of the situation."

Kiffin went on to describe his recent conversation with Fisher.

"I have spoken with Coach Fisher and he now has an accurate understanding of the timeline of events," Kiffin continued.  "We realize the timing of this isn't perfect for all parties, but this is a great opportunity and promotion for Kennedy."
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That statement means nothing. That was released on Sunday and on Monday the Titans filed the lawsuit against USC, Kiffin, and Pola. Sure doesn't seen like an understanding between all parties.
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Yeah it was a snake move and there's no question why Fisher is mad, but he's been in the media complaining about it for the past few days and now a law suit against the school? Purely out of bitterness and spite?  Really? What if he'd gotten a call from Lane and then 10 minutes later a call from Pola saying "I plan on interviewing with USC, and if they offer me the job I'm taking it 100%" would he still be suing the school?  He needs to get it over it.  The NFL poaches coaches all the time and they do it almost as shadily, if this wasn't Lane it wouldn't even be big news.
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The thing that's important here is the wording in Pola's contract with the Titans. It's standard in NFL contracts to contain clauses stating that the coach needs to get permission to interview and/or accept a a new coaching position on another team. Though that clause is usually for interviewing with other NFL teams, I don't know if Pola's contract included college teams. If that's the case, the Titans are absolutely in their right to sue. 
 
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Some good vids in there. Funny how special teams saved LSU from a possible 6-6 season last year. Jefferson gotta make it happen this year or that hot seat's gonna be flaming next year for the Hatter.
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[h3]Southeast wins again[/h3]
For the second consecutive year, the Southeast team -- made up of players from Florida, Georgia and the Carolinas -- blew through the Gridiron Kings tournament. On Sunday, the Southeast capped its run with a 36-0 win against the Southwest team, which included players from Texas, Oklahoma and Missouri.

No defense could stop Southeast tight end Nick O'Leary. The 6-foot-4, 235-pounder from Dwyer High in Palm Beach, Fla., dominated the linebackers who tried to cover him. O'Leary is considering Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Georgia and Miami. Meanwhile, opposing quarterbacks will have nightmares about Southeast safeties Karlos Williams and Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix, who each returned an interception more than 100 yards for a touchdown in the final. Williams is committed to Florida State, where older brother Vince is a linebacker. Clinton-Dix, known as "Ha-ha" to his teammates, is committed to Alabama.

ESPNU will televise the highlights of the Gridiron Kings tournament on Wednesday at 7 p.m. eastern.
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Clinton-Dix, known as "Ha-ha" to his teammates
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Clinton-Dix, known as "Ha-ha" to his teammates
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What's good ddot
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I recently learned in General that "What's good?" means you're looking to fight.

Also, Kyle Parker's press conference is going on if you wanna watch.
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Eloquently stated, sir. I see FSU is the strong favorite to win the Atlantic. Kyle Parker says +*!* you too.
 
UF offered Phillip Ely

I don't see any way that he doesn't jump on this, but is this to further lockdown Wilder, or is there genuine interest in him?
 
DeAnt Arnett leanin hard towards USC. Cant blame him if he decide to make that move....just hope he knows he prolly wont see the field till at least his Jr year out there, plus the redshirt....Really wanna see him stay home tho, things was falling together for a 3rd straight strong class for MSU.

Still like the direction State is headed tho, lookin healthy up there.
 
How do you think he's gonna adjust to the new system? He has good enough hands to catch the ball out of the backfield and should get plenty of touches that way, but his carries will probably be a lot lower than they would have been in the old system...

OU RB Mossis Madu was arrested for DUI a few days ago, with a BAC of 0.19
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He'll be fine.

and that new offense wont do well unless he has 1200 yrds.


Bryce Brown to k-State has been set in motion, he was scheduled to meet with Dooley but it didnt happen.

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Masoli at Ole Miss,
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They will take ANYONE.
Ole Miss Spread Offense is going to be SICK!
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Originally Posted by tmay407

How do you think he's gonna adjust to the new system? He has good enough hands to catch the ball out of the backfield and should get plenty of touches that way, but his carries will probably be a lot lower than they would have been in the old system...
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i was just about to ask Gunna to explain how their offense is going to change this year after the Leach consultation.  i've been outside the loop.  so now they're going from being run heavy to a pass first air it out offense?  why are they making such a drastic change?
 
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