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http://www.thewrap.com/ind-column/exclusive-abc-supersizes-lost-finale-16123Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
ABC has found more time to say goobye to "Lost."
The network has decided to supersize its farewell to the iconic drama, expanding a previously announced one-hour pre-show to two full hours. The special is now expected to air from 7-9 p.m. on Sunday, May 23, right before the two-hour "Lost" finale.
Add in a special "Jimmy Kimmel Live" -- "Lost: After the Final Rose"-- airing that Sunday, and ABC is now planning to devote no less than five hours of airtime to the "Lost" swan song.
That's really showing some (Dharma) initiative!
Source: The Wrap
can you tell me which 24??? because im sure those have signifigance tooOriginally Posted by Crazy EBW
24 episodes haven't had PREVIOUSLY ON LOST.Originally Posted by dhart48
im surprised there was not ONE MENTION that they just dived directly into the episode without the obligatory "previously on LOST" montage(atleast for me it went straight from dancing with the stars straight into the new episode) if that was the case for everyone...that has major signifigance to me,possibly the only episode(besides the first) where there wasnt a recap focusing on the weeks character.
you guys spend waaaaay too much time arguing over how great/horrible the episode was and should take it as it is. For me i love this whole new mythology they have build on im just along for the ride...the answers are coming, people just want things put bluntly in their face, you're going to have to do some looking yourself,ya know(just like our main characters)
can you tell me which 24??? because im sure those have signifigance tooOriginally Posted by Crazy EBW
24 episodes haven't had PREVIOUSLY ON LOST.Originally Posted by dhart48
im surprised there was not ONE MENTION that they just dived directly into the episode without the obligatory "previously on LOST" montage(atleast for me it went straight from dancing with the stars straight into the new episode) if that was the case for everyone...that has major signifigance to me,possibly the only episode(besides the first) where there wasnt a recap focusing on the weeks character.
you guys spend waaaaay too much time arguing over how great/horrible the episode was and should take it as it is. For me i love this whole new mythology they have build on im just along for the ride...the answers are coming, people just want things put bluntly in their face, you're going to have to do some looking yourself,ya know(just like our main characters)
*Sigh* It's lame because the story was boring, not interesting, and all around bad. I'm not saying the fact that there are flash sideways that that's what lame. I'm saying just about all of the flash sideways up to now have been bad and not executed good at all other than trying to arise new questions and add some type of value to these alternate lives.Originally Posted by Master Zik
No. It was a disappointment because it paled in comparison to the great episodes this season so far and all of the Desmond centrics.Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23
The ep was a disappointment because you like many others have ridiculous expectations.
I don't get how you or anyone can say the flash sideways are lame when the significance of it was clearly explained in the last episode!!LOL! I do not also see how destiny is being forced upon us at all in last nights episode if anything it furthered the whole idea of free will/choice.
I think some also do not get the idea of writing for television and how stories are told. Master Zik you say that the convincing of Desmond could have be handled in 20 minutes which I disagree with; the time used to show that was fine because the writers HAD to show exactly how he went from a non-believer. If it was done it was in less time then it would have been rushed and there would have been no flow. The flow and pace of the story in this season and pretty much every season has been excellent...the writers have done a great job over five seasons and continue to do so this season and have actually revealed more answers than most realize.
The entire ep being used to do that is what bore me. How many times have we've seen this? Charlie's part in the ep could've easily been cut in half. Even though I like the Faraday, he didn't add much to this ep either. It's just a bunch of dead losties leading Desmond to choose his destiny and involve himself with w/e the island has in store for him. It definitely could've been told better and not taken up as much time as it did. I'm not talking about the pacing and flow of ever season even though you saying it's excellent is disputable. Specifically how the O5 got back to the island in S5 and S4(for obvious reasons).
As I said before your ridiculous expectations cause you to disappointed....you didn't get it explained in 20 minutes and you wanted more answers crammed into one episode that you missed the damn good revelations in this episode.
Again, no. I don't know who you got me confused with but not once did I complain there weren't enough answers in this ep and that it was filler. The episode was lame. The way this story was told was boring. Compare this episode to past Desmond centrics and you'll get it. Go back to Live Together Die Alone pt. 2, Flashes Before Your Eyes, and even Jughead to see the let down Happily Ever After was. If my expectations were that ridiculous because of the precedent the writers have set with those episode and then this dud fine. I'd just see it as you being content with an underwhelming episode.
I agree with Fro B Giant....if you don't like it then stop watching.
Get this lame ##@ gay ##@ reasoning the *@%% outta here. I'm a LOST fan if you don't like me posting my disappointments about an episode or critiquing something in the show don't read my posts. How I feel shouldn't be bothering you this much for you to tell someone to stop watching the show altogether. Cuz we disagree about an episode I should stop watching? *@%% you and Fro B Giant for saying some dumb +!#+ like that.
Those complaining every week and disappointed because they feel like the LOST writers are supposed to cater to their every pre-show airing desire is rather annoying.
This statement is irrelevant since I don't complain every week. If you're that annoyed about these other ppl I suggest you deal with it or find another place to discuss LOST.
Just open your eyes and look at what really is being shown and enjoy the great ride of the show.
Telling me to open my eyes like I haven't been enjoying the show since day 1. I can't be like you and not have a mind of my own and voice my opinion about what I don't like. I'm surprised you'd even suggest this when the themes in LOST are directly opposed to that type of thinking.
Your entitled to your opinion and you are also entitled to be wrong (which you are).
If you say that you are not disliking the episode over unrealistic expectations that is fine. However, ironically you compare it to other Desmond episodes which isn't fair or objective. If you already expected this episode to be "The Constant" or even "Ab Aterno" then of course you will already be let down. What you fail to realize when judging an episode in this series or any series in this matter you must look at how the episode fits into the show and what it is trying to accomplish and whether or not character and story development have been furthered.
The episode fits perfectly into the shows scheme and character development and story have been furthered. You are entitled to your opinion but I really don't get more of what you want. It is clear that your comparisons are based on previous episodes which IMO is not fair or objective at all.
@ me not having a mind of my own when I am the one actually being objective.
However, good discussion Brotha!
This is a joke. You're allegedly being objective yet you can claim that I'm wrong. If that's the case you can not be right. Unless your view is all episodes are equal and none are better than each other.Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23
Your entitled to your opinion and you are also entitled to be wrong (which you are).
@ me not having a mind of my own when I am the one actually being objective.
If you say that you are not disliking the episode over unrealistic expectations that is fine. However, ironically you compare it to other Desmond episodes which isn't fair or objective. If you already expected this episode to be "The Constant" or even "Ab Aterno" then of course you will already be let down. What you fail to realize when judging an episode in this series or any series in this matter you must look at how the episode fits into the show and what it is trying to accomplish and whether or not character and story development have been furthered.
You don't know what fair is. I gave my opinion, therefore it is subjective. I never expected this episode to be The Constant or Ab Aterno. I expected this Desmond centric episode to be as good as all of the other Desmond centric eps, just like I expect the same of Locke and Ben centrics. Your assumption that I would "already be let down" is ridiculous since the prior Desmond centric episodes did not let me down. Your not even making sense. I feel every Desmond ep has been great(until HEA) so how could I have unrealistic expectations if the writers and actors have consistently been producing great Desmond centrics? I'm not expecting every Des centric to be better than the last. I'm expecting consistency of a high quality. Why would I not expect another one for the final season?
The episode fits perfectly into the shows scheme and character development and story have been furthered. You are entitled to your opinion but I really don't get more of what you want. It is clear that your comparisons are based on previous episodes which IMO is not fair or objective at all.
If you don't get it I'm not surprised, you've been arguing from a misguided viewpoint on my opinion of the episode from the start. How is it not fair to compare this episode to previous LOST episodes? Specifically past Desmond centrics? Do you know what fair means? It'd be unfair if I compared this episode to an ep of The Wire or Breaking Bad or Flash Forward. That's not objective.
Me comparing this ep to past eps is no different than me comparing an artist's album to one of his other albums. That's completely fair and objective. Do you think all episodes are stand alone and exist in a universe by themselves free from comparison or criticism? How naive and stupid can anyone be to think you can't compare episodes for the same show?and it's not even like I'm being unfair by comparing different centrics or using the pilot episode as a comparison. Why isn't fair that I think Season 3 of LOST is better than Season 5? It's my opinion. You seem to be confusing a lot og things as far as fairness is concerned. If you want to take the objective route with LOST and believe all episodes are equal to each other in quality and none are better than each other then I find it foolish that you even engaged in this argument cuz even a mildly ******ed person would've known that we would be disagreeing about this.
i agree.. for some reason, i think for me instead of my questions about the show being answered, im more confused and more lost.Originally Posted by Cragmatic
I'm just starting to feel like the past 5 seasons didn't mean a thing
Originally Posted by badboyf0life420
i agree.. for some reason, i think for me instead of my questions about the show being answered, im more confused and more lost.Originally Posted by Cragmatic
I'm just starting to feel like the past 5 seasons didn't mean a thing
*Sigh* It's lame because the story was boring, not interesting, and all around bad. I'm not saying the fact that there are flash sideways that that's what lame. I'm saying just about all of the flash sideways up to now have been bad and not executed good at all other than trying to arise new questions and add some type of value to these alternate lives.Originally Posted by Master Zik
No. It was a disappointment because it paled in comparison to the great episodes this season so far and all of the Desmond centrics.Originally Posted by FlatbushFiyah23
The ep was a disappointment because you like many others have ridiculous expectations.
I don't get how you or anyone can say the flash sideways are lame when the significance of it was clearly explained in the last episode!!LOL! I do not also see how destiny is being forced upon us at all in last nights episode if anything it furthered the whole idea of free will/choice.
I think some also do not get the idea of writing for television and how stories are told. Master Zik you say that the convincing of Desmond could have be handled in 20 minutes which I disagree with; the time used to show that was fine because the writers HAD to show exactly how he went from a non-believer. If it was done it was in less time then it would have been rushed and there would have been no flow. The flow and pace of the story in this season and pretty much every season has been excellent...the writers have done a great job over five seasons and continue to do so this season and have actually revealed more answers than most realize.
The entire ep being used to do that is what bore me. How many times have we've seen this? Charlie's part in the ep could've easily been cut in half. Even though I like the Faraday, he didn't add much to this ep either. It's just a bunch of dead losties leading Desmond to choose his destiny and involve himself with w/e the island has in store for him. It definitely could've been told better and not taken up as much time as it did. I'm not talking about the pacing and flow of ever season even though you saying it's excellent is disputable. Specifically how the O5 got back to the island in S5 and S4(for obvious reasons).
As I said before your ridiculous expectations cause you to disappointed....you didn't get it explained in 20 minutes and you wanted more answers crammed into one episode that you missed the damn good revelations in this episode.
Again, no. I don't know who you got me confused with but not once did I complain there weren't enough answers in this ep and that it was filler. The episode was lame. The way this story was told was boring. Compare this episode to past Desmond centrics and you'll get it. Go back to Live Together Die Alone pt. 2, Flashes Before Your Eyes, and even Jughead to see the let down Happily Ever After was. If my expectations were that ridiculous because of the precedent the writers have set with those episode and then this dud fine. I'd just see it as you being content with an underwhelming episode.
I agree with Fro B Giant....if you don't like it then stop watching.
Get this lame ##@ gay ##@ reasoning the *@%% outta here. I'm a LOST fan if you don't like me posting my disappointments about an episode or critiquing something in the show don't read my posts. How I feel shouldn't be bothering you this much for you to tell someone to stop watching the show altogether. Cuz we disagree about an episode I should stop watching? *@%% you and Fro B Giant for saying some dumb +!#+ like that.
Those complaining every week and disappointed because they feel like the LOST writers are supposed to cater to their every pre-show airing desire is rather annoying.
This statement is irrelevant since I don't complain every week. If you're that annoyed about these other ppl I suggest you deal with it or find another place to discuss LOST.
Just open your eyes and look at what really is being shown and enjoy the great ride of the show.
Telling me to open my eyes like I haven't been enjoying the show since day 1. I can't be like you and not have a mind of my own and voice my opinion about what I don't like. I'm surprised you'd even suggest this when the themes in LOST are directly opposed to that type of thinking.
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Originally Posted by Crazy EBW
I feel like each individual season had a theme.
I agree with you 100% man but some just don't seem to get it.Originally Posted by whywesteppin
For those saying that the prior seasons seem like a waste now, think of it this way... If my theory is roughly correct (it's not even really a theory now because a lot of it has been shown), then everything matters. There are multiple realities, and every little change is manifested in a change in the reality. The alternate realities all interact with each other. There is something tying them together. So even though the "final" reality may be something that did not happen in seasons 1-5, we still need every little event from seasons 1-5 to get there.
Maybe it comes down to this... There are multiple realities but each person only has one consciousness, and that's what brings things together.
Originally Posted by Cragmatic
I still think its a way to throw every character who's ever been on the show back into it. Yea, Desmond is gonna find a way to merge the time lines? Its just.... stupid.
Yes I'm a hater