MODS PLEASE LOCK | The Oakland Raiders 2015 Season Thread: Week 17 @ Kansas City / 7-8

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I'm not going to allow myself to get worked up about signing Calvin. That seems like such a pipe dream for what we've been for so long :lol

I wouldn't mind it though 8o
 
would love that obviously. going to wait and see. we need defense more than anything, tho. 
 
Calvin would obviously be an awesome pick up but we have to focus on the D...Calvin not commin cheap...
 
We could afford both Crabtree and Megatron. We are spending peanuts on the offense. Except for Hudson.
 
@rock steady22

Reggie will use the draft to fix the defense. We can address both need with our first 3 picks.
 
Carr has to get paid before Cooper and Mack. Those two hit their contract year the same time I think.
 
wonder how reggie is going to handle crabtree. alshon jeffery set to be a free agent also. younger and cheaper than megatron.

also wouldnt be surprised if we sign nobody. :lol
 
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I hesitate about letting Crabtree walk simply cause of the strong connection he has with Carr. Can you put a price on that natural chemistry? He has been more than dependable all season long.

On the other hand, Crabtrees primma Donna rep isn't for nothing. This could be his best effort just for the pay day.
 
I hesitate about letting Crabtree walk simply cause of the strong connection he has with Carr. Can you put a price on that natural chemistry? He has been more than dependable all season long.

On the other hand, Crabtrees primma Donna rep isn't for nothing. This could be his best effort just for the pay day.
You can and you can't put a price tag on that chemistry.

We are very fortunate and lucky to have him.

He saw the situation in Oakland, KNEW the situation in Santa Clara, and bailed on other teams because he knew he could succeed here.

Why not pay the man? He seems like he wants to be here. 

Torrey Smith got a nice big check but is he really doing numbers like Crabtree right now. HELL NO. 
 
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Raiders’ Derek Carr outpacing Vikings’ Teddy Bridgewater

By Vic TafurNovember 12, 2015 Updated: November 12, 2015 10:56pm

Derek Carr and Teddy Bridgewater will always be linked, as either one of their teams could have drafted the other quarterback in 2014. Vikings coach Mike Zimmer said in a conference call that he is “very happy” with Bridgewater, and the Raiders have watched Carr throw 11 touchdowns the past three games.

But many executives and experts around the league think Minnesota, which will see Carr live Sunday in Oakland, must be kicking itself.

“Carr is a big-time quarterback,” NFL Films senior producer Greg Cosell said. “The Raiders are telling you what he is, because they are expanding their passing game on a weekly basis.

“Carr is a big-time arm talent. Bridgewater is an average arm talent. Now Teddy’s poised and understands where to go with the ball, but there are 31 teams who would take Carr and only one that would take Bridgewater.”

All 31 teams didn’t answer our calls, but eight executives did and agreed with Cosell. They didn’t want to be named, with one adding, “The Raiders have their winning quarterback for a long, long time.”

The Vikings could have had Carr last year, but drafted linebacker Anthony Barr ninth and traded back into the first round to draft Bridgewater with the 32nd overall pick. Raiders general manager Reggie McKenzie has said he also had a chance to do that, but waited and drafted Carr four picks later instead.

While Bridgewater is on a 6-2 team and Carr and the Raiders are 4-4, the individual numbers definitely favor Carr.

Carr is tied for third in the NFL with 19 touchdown passes, and if he keeps this pace up will break Daryle Lamonica’s single-season team record of 34 set in 1969. Carr’s thrown for 2,094 yards and has only four interceptions.

Bridgewater has thrown for 1,670 yards with six touchdowns and six interceptions. He does have a higher completion percentage than Carr (64.2 to 63.7).

“Carr’s doing a great job of recognition, getting the ball out,” Zimmer said. “He has a little bit of a gunslinger mentality. He’s not afraid to throw the ball into tight cover, down the field, take his chances.”

Zimmer said Carr looks “comfortable.” The Raiders are spreading the field with new weapons Amari Cooper and Michael Crabtree, and with opponents respecting the running game, Carr has time and space to look for open targets.

Carr said the gunslinger was here last year, in his rookie season, but the defenses can’t cheat as much as they did last year at this time, when the Raiders were 0-8.

“The opportunities have come for us to throw it down the field more,” Carr said. “With us being in games, teams aren’t just playing soft coverages. They’ve got to fit our run game with Latavius (Murray) running the ball.”

Last year, Carr got rid of the ball quicker to less-exciting receivers. (Cosell noted that Cooper “had no problem beating (Darrelle) Revis two weeks ago.”)

“My mentality hasn’t changed,” Carr said. “I’ve always wanted to throw it down the field. Especially in college, I wanted to throw go-balls every play. This year, we’ve just had more chances I think.”

Sports Illustrated analyst Doug Farrar does think Carr’s deep ball is “much improved” from last season.

“He is also going through his progressions better,” Farrar said. “He looks more confident and decisive and really has good timing down with his receivers. (Offensive coordinator Bill) Musgrave has done a nice job using the intermediate game, the 8-15 yarders, set up Carr for the deep ball.”

Farrar said Bridgewater was his No. 1 overall draft prospect last year, and paused when asked if he would take Carr over him now.

“Teddy needs more help,” Farrar said. “He doesn’t have the targets that Carr has, but he has all the tools you need.”

There is no doubt that he is clutch, as Bridgewater already has five fourth-quarter comebacks.

“He’s a great kid and the team likes him a lot,” Zimmer said. “They rally behind him. He’s very poised and he’s a great kid.”

Zimmer thinks that, with experience, that fourth-quarter killer will make an appearance earlier in games.

“Sometimes he’s cautious with the ball because he doesn’t want to give the other team a chance,” Zimmer said. “I think he sees us playing fairly good defense at times, but … when we get behind in games he doesn’t play that way. He kind of lets it loose and just plays football.

“I want him to be more like that throughout the course of the ballgame. … He just needs to say, ‘The heck with it. It’s my ball. Let’s go.’”

Bridgewater, who practiced Thursday after sustaining a concussion Sunday, is ready for this first matchup with Carr. They became friendly during the draft process, and have texted each other this week.

“He’s just so calm, so cool,” Carr said. “I just think that he has such a bright future. Everyone knows that.”

Though most don’t think it will be as bright as the Oakland quarterback’s.

Briefly: Murray said he is feeling good and practiced Thursday for the first time since suffering a concussion Sunday in Pittsburgh. Murray, who has had two concussions in less than a year, leads Oakland with 630 yards rushing. …. Cooper returned to practice after missing Wednesday with a quad injury, while center Rodney Hudson remained out with a sprained ankle.
 
I don't see Reggie breaking the bank on Megtron, honestly. Would be cool but I'd rather pay Crab for less and fill all those holes on the defense up, we need help at every position in the secondary especially if Chuck ends up dying on the field trying to save this franchise. Interior linebacker is a MUST too.
 
going to have to find a replacement for tuck also. not sure how hes going to look at 33 coming off an injury. losing him was big IMO, definetly could have used him last week.
 
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Yeah Mario has honestly looked pretty good for someone that wasn't supposed to get a ton of reps this year. Tuck can go this offseason and I'm fine with starting Mario
 
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