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This sounds like someone that thinks he's gone.
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Or you can say it was 19 games and that's a really small sample size. Going to need more than that. That's not enough to play him over a healthy DJ.
Or you can say it was 19 games and that's a really small sample size. Going to need more than that. That's not enough to play him over a healthy DJ.
There is no way Voit starts next year, that’s ridiculous essential. He may not even be back, we’ll probably trade him.
Likely outcome.
My argument is under no circumstance should DJ be starting at 2B over Gleyber. Or starting at 3B over Gio.
If he’s starting 1B over Voit, that’s fine. Put Voit at DH. Stanton in LF.
(I really do not want Joey Gallo back). Gallo has got the most value of any potential trade chip on offense.
Still hold the point that DJ’s value is bigger as a guy who fills in at all the positions to get 130-140 games.
I agree that DJ shouldn’t be at 2B. Keep Gleyber.
But DJ will probably just go to 1B tho. So Voit goes either way.
Comes down to who do you value more. Gallo or Voit. I know they’ll choose Gallo. But I think with what you’d get in trade return plus the ability to move guys around throughout the year, I’d choose Voit.
If you keep Gallo, Stanton is permanent DH. And while I think he’s gonna play DH more than the field regardless of the situation, Stanton should get time in the field.
Also, I don’t think I can watch Gallo all year spoil runners on.
Man are you related to Gary? Serious question. His agent? The lengths lengths go to make excuses is wild. He seems like a good dude but he's been bad 3 of 4 years. 2019 was an outlier. He's not good and we need to find a better option. If we can't find a better bat, find a better glove. He's bad at both.I know nobody cares, but I wanted to take a dive into some stats, and naturally started with Catcher.
Gary was a surprisingly patient at the plate.
I did 200 PA threshold with Catchers (it was 47):
2nd lowest 1st pitch strikes
17th best of 47 in not swinging at pitches outside the zone
8th best BB%
Almost a 10% drop in K% from 2020 to 2021
His called strike % was 2nd best of his career, and swinging strike was best of his career.
1 of 10 Catchers with an OBP that was 100 points higher than their BA. That is an indication of someone who is taking pitches and walking.
I don't have a ton of issue with him this year, it wasn't a great year, but I don't think it was a terrible one either. By OPS+ he was the 3rd best hitter for the Yankees. Which can be viewed as a positive or negative about him and the team.
I think managing has some to do with it. Whether you like him or hate him, since Boone has been here, he's jerked Gary around. He gets it enough from fans and media, Boone doesn't do him any favors. And some of that goes onto Gary about not being able to bounce back or not let it get to him, but it's a really ****ty position to be in. I think the personal catcher thing needs to be done with. If Cole can't pitch to Gary, it's more worrying about Cole than it is Gary.
Gary shows flashes of how good he can be, and then it doesn't stick. Again, some of that is on Gary for not staying with what is working, but I'm curious if the coaching staff just doesn't notice these small things
For example, Gary in June was .289/.372/.663 15XBH 19RBIs 11BB 25Ks. Then just was rough from there out.
Gary is not far off what he could be. It's having that crazy hot month, but in the other months being able to not fall below the mean, which is what happened in 2018 and 2021, had an insane month or two and then a few falling below the mean.
2016, 2017, 2019 are years where you how good Gary is and can be. Because there is those crazy hot months, months where he holds it steady, and limits the damage of slumps and gets back on track.
He can be a utility guy and still play 150 games. As for Gallo, he's q really good player. I'd prefer to keep him and hope an entire offseason with the organization helps him settle in and get back to his pre-trade play.Likely outcome.
My argument is under no circumstance should DJ be starting at 2B over Gleyber. Or starting at 3B over Gio.
If he’s starting 1B over Voit, that’s fine. Put Voit at DH. Stanton in LF.
(I really do not want Joey Gallo back). Gallo has got the most value of any potential trade chip on offense. Of guys they could or should consider trading.
Still hold the point that DJ’s value is bigger as a guy who fills in at all the positions to get 130-140 games.
You completely leave off defense. His bat was worth dealing with it in 2016, 2017, and 2019. It's not now. And no, catcher defense isn't overrated. It not only affects balls/strikes from framing and passed balls, but it affects pitcher confidence. If a pitcher trusts his catcher to call a good game, he just shakes yes every pitch and goes about his business. If a pitcher doesn’t, he has to think about pitch sequence too. It's just more to deal with. Not to mention the security of knowing you can throw a slider in the dirt on 0-2 and not worrying about the man on 1b ending up on 2b. There's a reason why most teams go for defense first at catcher. The bat has to be extremely good to deal with bad defense at that position and Gary just isn't that now.Any time I talk about Gary it is always comparing him to Catchers.
Same thing I do for every player, especially catcher. The only place where you can lump multiple positions together for me is OF.
If you compare Gary to the entire set of hitters at every position, it’s not good. But when you compare him to Catchers and what’s available on offense, he’s far better than what’s available, and will be at least for next year. All the peripherals are there, the results are not.
What’s the reason for that? Absolutely Gary deserves blame for it. I think he’s shot confidence wise. But when a guy is patient and walking, and getting good contact on the ball, and has around 40XBH, what is the gap from that to being dangerous.
There’s an underestimation of just how bad Catchers are at hitting. And on the other hand, just how overrated people weigh defense from catchers.
MLB teams disagree. There's a reason they default to defense first there.You’re missing what I’m saying. Unless you’re a generational talent on defense at Catcher (Yadier), the entirety of importance of defense at catcher is vastly overrated.