NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins

[ny mavurs]

katy perry x janet jackson incident?

Just one nipple slip Katy please

 

[CP1708]

Lenny has one job. Do what Justin did.

I posted this 2 weeks ago when they announced Lenny.

If Katy comes out singin California Girls with a bikini top on and starts bouncin around, I might miss the second half rewatchin that **** for 3 hours.

 

[jpzx]

ESPN feature article, January 2014:

While Timberlake's career as a solo artist took off after the Super Bowl, Jackson's suffered. When her album Damita Jo debuted the month following the halftime show, low play counts led to online rumors that she'd been blacklisted by Viacom, the parent company of MTV and VH1. The record was her lowest-selling album since 1984. She withdrew from the Grammys under pressure, while Timberlake performed and accepted two awards. Throughout the controversy, the bodice-ripped Jackson suffered much more than the bodice-ripping Timberlake. "I personally thought that was really unfair," Powell says. "It all turned into being about her. In reality, if you slow the thing down, it's Justin ripping off her breastplate."

Some critics saw gender and race at play and thought Timberlake ducked the heat. In a 2004 remix of the Jadakiss song "Why?" rapper Common asks, "Why did Justin sell Janet out and go to the Grammys?" Timberlake himself said he believed Jackson had taken a disproportionate amount of the backlash. "I probably got 10 percent of the blame," he told MTV. "I think America's probably harsher on women, and I think America is, you know, unfairly harsh on ethnic people." After initially apologizing for the incident, Jackson told Oprah in 2006 she regretted taking the blame for an unplanned accident. Informed of Timberlake's comments, Jackson smiled uncomfortably and confirmed that she felt her co-star hadn't done enough to defend her. "Certain things you just don't do to friends," she said.

Clearly, it remains a sore subject for both artists. Jackson told Oprah she would never comment on the controversy again. When recently asked by The Mag about what he had taken away from the incident, Timberlake laughed nervously as his representative signaled to end the interview. "I take that I chose not to comment on it still, after 10 years," he said. "I'm not touching that thing with a 10-foot pole," he quickly added.

"I didn't want this snowball, this juggernaut, to turn into pressure to go after Janet and Justin Timberlake. I thought we were getting into dangerous territory." Launching an investigation into the halftime production quickly gave him some ground to stand on when members of Congress started asking why he wasn't going after Jackson. Frattini and her team had to hand over their laptops; the government wanted access to every document and every bit of communication among the show's creators. The FCC found nothing to suggest they had planned the moment and settled on a combined $550,000 fine for the 20 Viacom-owned stations -- then the largest against a broadcaster in the commission's history.

He's never going to be on there again whether it's completely baseless or just because they don't want to even remind folks about it. Justin won't even speak about it a decade later.

 

[shatterkneesinc]

matty ice to the pro bowl :x

 

[illoquent aka dsk]

All the chatter of the deflating footballs has become silly at this point. Still can't see why people allowing the media to work them into a tizzy about this.

Because it A. involves the New England Patriots and B. it's a juicy story coming out of a relatively boring conference championship game and heading into a dead week for the media.

Regardless of how the Superbowl ends, (and other than some legit scandalous **** getting revealed from either the league or media) this is gonna be one of those things some people reflect on in a few years and marvel at the reaction & coverage it received.

Unless, of course, you had an agenda before all this.

@dmxfury  Would you consider this an "us vs. the world" situation or nah? 

 

[stillin729]

“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.”

 

[CP1708]

“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.”

Hmmmm

I truly don't see it, but if the public pushes the repeat offender stuff, and the not harsh enough stuff on Roger, I wonder if he folds and drops a hammer.

I truly don't think it's an edge at all, but if there's enough sway, maybe somethin actually does come of this.

 

[IATT]

I never got what the big deal was with what the saints did..

considering the things that coaches said and encouraged us to do in high school.. and the stuff we did and said to the other teams while playing..

if we were doing something illegal with regard to the game of football, isn't that why you have referees in place.. I just look at the rest of that stuff as motivational tactics

 

[IATT]

I mean I get that once everything went public that the league had to action against the saints as a PR move.. considering they were in a legal battle with former players about concussions and all that

 

[elpablo21]

 

 

“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.”

Hmmmm

I truly don't see it, but if the public pushes the repeat offender stuff, and the not harsh enough stuff on Roger, I wonder if he folds and drops a hammer.

I truly don't think it's an edge at all, but if there's enough sway, maybe somethin actually does come of this.

I dont see it either, his back isnt against the wall on this at all

There is no public outcry from people outside the football world for Gooddell to be forced to do anything

 

[rillo561]

Said it yesterday nothing would come from this, no way anyone get suspended from the Superbowl, it's their cash cow.

 

[trueprada]

 

[proshares]

Do it like how these frauds in CFB/CBB do it with star players...sit him for a series and have everyone shut the **** up about it already. They have these ***** on Fox Business channel talking and debating about it I mean, when can we just say enough is enough.

 

[IATT]

the outcry is going to come if he doesn't do anything.. or like the ray rice incident, it isn't harsh enough

the pats are going to suffer for past behavior..

I don't think anything happens for the super bowl.. they'll give some BS about needing to investigate or bring in a independent arbitrator or something to give them time til the super bowl goes by

then the pats will lose pick(s) and get fined

 

[Chester McFloppy]

 

 

“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.”

Hmmmm


I truly don't see it, but if the public pushes the repeat offender stuff, and the not harsh enough stuff on Roger, I wonder if he folds and drops a hammer.


I truly don't think it's an edge at all, but if there's enough sway, maybe somethin actually does come of this.

I dont see it either, his back isnt against the wall on this at all

There is no public outcry from people outside the football world for Gooddell to be forced to do anything

You're kidding, right?

It's one of the top 5-6 headlines at all of the news sites. It's ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA. I mean, LOOK AT THESE ARTICLES:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyl...l?hootPostID=7e6f40b9f7dd14fa3ca155cc8d75808d



This **** ain't that serious but it's much bigger than some of y'all think.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

 

 

[Chester McFloppy]

The comments in some of these articles

Prejudice people, Bullies, and half-******ed people, don't want to understand the science, evidence, of what actually happened. Most people (easily over 51%) don't like the Patriots because their name appears republican-like, just as any White/Anglo from Texas is usually spoken of disapprovingly, and most people are liberal and/or atheists (regardless of many saying they have "faith" because most of them don't believe in any God). Saying that, logic and intellect would suggest and factually state that 11 of 12 "deflated" balls during a game would NOT appear questionable nor "too coincidental" as espn radio kept insisting. INTELLECT, science, would instead say it makes sense. Put 12 buckets under a tree while is raining, and I GUARANTEE that most (in this case 11 of 12) WILL collect water and 1 maybe not. Have 12 people walk in the rain for 30 minutes in their tennis shoes, and it will show that most (11 or 12) shoes WILL be somewhat wet inside. More so, Aaron Rogers puts more pressure (air) in his balls, more than its official, and NO ONE has given a rats ***. Additionally, because science MUST be involved here, the Colts knew they couldn't win and maybe complained on a ball which, because of it being USED, was somewhat deflated. The Colts may have had some of theirs deflated and took the risk to complain about the Patriots hoping their own wouldn't get checked at the time of the complaint. This is possible. The matter IS, that when two parties are involved, BOTH parties MUST be tested and checked: its the ONLY way one can be proven right and the other not. The ONLY way. BOTH The Patriots AND the Colts balls should have been tested. More so, at half time, the refs already knew, yet, the Pats won the second half 28-0, TWENTY EIGHT TO ZERO. The refs messed up by not identifying any such "deflated" ball even after handling the balls thru out the first half. Geez. Logically, this case should be dismissed.

 

[elpablo21]

 

 

 

 

“This whole comment by Roger Goodell based on the Saints when Sean Payton got suspended for the year, and he says ‘ignorance is no excuse,’ that’s going to come back to haunt him again,” Aikman said, via the Dallas Morning News. “That haunted him during the whole Ray Rice situation with he, himself, and now it’s going to haunt Roger Goodell in terms of what the punishment is for the New England Patriots and Bill Belichick. If ignorance is no excuse, and it wasn’t for Sean Payton. …[The Saints] did not give themselves a competitive advantage. Now twice, under Bill Belichick and possibly a third time, they’ve cheated and given themselves an advantage. To me, the punishment for the Patriots and/or Bill Belichick has to be more severe than what the punishment was for the New Orleans Saints.”

Hmmmm


I truly don't see it, but if the public pushes the repeat offender stuff, and the not harsh enough stuff on Roger, I wonder if he folds and drops a hammer.


I truly don't think it's an edge at all, but if there's enough sway, maybe somethin actually does come of this.

I dont see it either, his back isnt against the wall on this at all

There is no public outcry from people outside the football world for Gooddell to be forced to do anything

You're kidding, right?

It's one of the top 5-6 headlines at all of the news sites. It's ALL OVER SOCIAL MEDIA. I mean, LOOK AT THESE ARTICLES:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/lifestyl...l?hootPostID=7e6f40b9f7dd14fa3ca155cc8d75808d

This **** ain't that serious but it's much bigger than some of y'all think.

meh.

CNN has an article labeling it a phony scandal

This will blow over imo

 

[Maximus Meridius]

@ Bill being shocked to hear about this. I don't expect him to say anything else but it's still funny cuz this is so obvious. Goodell is gonna try his best to make this go away.

 

[trueprada]

 

[fraij da 5 11]

The comments in some of these articles

Prejudice people, Bullies, and half-******ed people, don't want to understand the science, evidence, of what actually happened. Most people (easily over 51%) don't like the Patriots because their name appears republican-like, just as any White/Anglo from Texas is usually spoken of disapprovingly, and most people are liberal and/or atheists (regardless of many saying they have "faith" because most of them don't believe in any God). Saying that, logic and intellect would suggest and factually state that 11 of 12 "deflated" balls during a game would NOT appear questionable nor "too coincidental" as espn radio kept insisting. INTELLECT, science, would instead say it makes sense. Put 12 buckets under a tree while is raining, and I GUARANTEE that most (in this case 11 of 12) WILL collect water and 1 maybe not. Have 12 people walk in the rain for 30 minutes in their tennis shoes, and it will show that most (11 or 12) shoes WILL be somewhat wet inside. More so, Aaron Rogers puts more pressure (air) in his balls, more than its official, and NO ONE has given a rats ***. Additionally, because science MUST be involved here, the Colts knew they couldn't win and maybe complained on a ball which, because of it being USED, was somewhat deflated. The Colts may have had some of theirs deflated and took the risk to complain about the Patriots hoping their own wouldn't get checked at the time of the complaint. This is possible. The matter IS, that when two parties are involved, BOTH parties MUST be tested and checked: its the ONLY way one can be proven right and the other not. The ONLY way. BOTH The Patriots AND the Colts balls should have been tested. More so, at half time, the refs already knew, yet, the Pats won the second half 28-0, TWENTY EIGHT TO ZERO. The refs messed up by not identifying any such "deflated" ball even after handling the balls thru out the first half. Geez. Logically, this case should be dismissed.

 My newsfeed is full of **** like this... All these New Englanders around here up here taking turns at the podium.

Best part is that no one really thinks the Colts would have won, and really I don't think its a huge deal (although the chart above with fumble numbers makes it interesting) but these Pats fans are so upset by people "attacking" their squad. 

This couldn't be a better start to super bowl week.

 

[dmxfury]

I mean I get that once everything went public that the league had to action against the saints as a PR move.. considering they were in a legal battle with former players about concussions and all that

Answered your own question, that was it

 

[Maximus Meridius]

Yeah nobody is suing the league for deflated footballs so they'll get another slap on the wrist if that.

 

[rillo561]

Now all the fans are experts in PSI. Come'on Hawks!

 

[IATT]

 

I mean I get that once everything went public that the league had to action against the saints as a PR move.. considering they were in a legal battle with former players about concussions and all that

Answered your own question, that was it

i understand from a PR perspective.. but not from a football perspective..

hell i don't get why the coach had to be suspended.. take picks and a draft pick(s) and call it a day

but now with the pats, precedents have already been set and people are going want blood