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I thought AJ Green (26) and Julio Jones (25) would make the cut.
I give up
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NFL Discussion Thread: Pats win SB XLIX. Offseason begins
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DeadsetAce
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what about randall cobb? top 3 by default being on GB. is he younger than 25?
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It's impossible finding WRs under 25. Randall Cobb is 23, guess he's in by default DSA.
Josh Gordon is the only kid under 25 that's top 10 in the league.
Josh Gordon is the only kid under 25 that's top 10 in the league.
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Dungy overrated. wow.
Colts defense and run game stepped up and carried them in the playoffs.
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Yea its hard most of the good wrs are over 25. Defenders are easier to find a lot of guys under 25. Hell I was having a hard time just looking at linebacker.
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but the pats had 6 1st team all-pros (4 on offense and 2 on defense)Brady handed a lead over to his defense in both games with 2 minutes left. hardly a choke job
not like he's out there throwing pick six's
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Even tho it's just pre season I'm still happy we shut out the 49ers
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When people say the patriots haven't won since they were caught creating, why doesnt Peyton get a pass for having his worst postseason games against them? The Colts lost to the pats in 03 and 04, who then won the SB. the 03 pats were #1 in the league in points allowed, the 04 pats were #2. this is all while they were cheating.
Then lost to the Steelers who won it all in 05 and the 05 steelers were #3 in points allowed that year. kind of just bad luck to run into the teams they did.
is he without flaw? no. but i would say his "playoff chokes" are overstated. when you look back at his postseason numbers, it's hard to make a case that they were losing because of him, especially considering it's a team game.
Peyton Manning
23 games
37 TDs 24 INTs 6589 yards 64.34 completion % 89.2 quarterback rating
QB 2 Tom Brady
26 games
43 TDs 22 INTs 6424 yards 62.11 completion % 87.5 quarterback rating
QB 3 John Elway, and he lost 3 times in the SB. 39-20. 42-10. 55-10.
22 games
27 TDs 21 INTs 4964 yards 54.53 completion % 79,7 quarterback rating
all stats via http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
Then lost to the Steelers who won it all in 05 and the 05 steelers were #3 in points allowed that year. kind of just bad luck to run into the teams they did.
is he without flaw? no. but i would say his "playoff chokes" are overstated. when you look back at his postseason numbers, it's hard to make a case that they were losing because of him, especially considering it's a team game.
Peyton Manning
23 games
37 TDs 24 INTs 6589 yards 64.34 completion % 89.2 quarterback rating
QB 2 Tom Brady
26 games
43 TDs 22 INTs 6424 yards 62.11 completion % 87.5 quarterback rating
QB 3 John Elway, and he lost 3 times in the SB. 39-20. 42-10. 55-10.
22 games
27 TDs 21 INTs 4964 yards 54.53 completion % 79,7 quarterback rating
all stats via http://www.pro-football-reference.com/
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^ that stuff is irrelevant. So what he went up against great defenses without a defense of his own.
Brady never played with great defense he had to score 35 a game to win too.
Brady never played with great defense he had to score 35 a game to win too.
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do work son
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the point of bringing up the defenses he lost to, was to illustrate that for one they were the very best in the league, and that they all won super bowls. i'd hardly say that's irrelevant when discussing peyton manning's playoff record.
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As long as #manningface exist people are gonna take too much joy in his failures. Cuz I mean c'mon ....
Brady's better because his foolishness mostly comes off the field or at least on the sidelines. Either way eff em both
RGIII gonna flourish
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^ I know that.
The point is nobody cares.
You guys sit there and point out all this stuff that makes sense. People just don't care.
It's not a team game Peyton lost those games.
Like against Sea, that was Peyton that hiked the ball over his own head the first play if that game. He did that.
The point is nobody cares.
You guys sit there and point out all this stuff that makes sense. People just don't care.
It's not a team game Peyton lost those games.
Like against Sea, that was Peyton that hiked the ball over his own head the first play if that game. He did that.
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do work son
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i know most won't care, but i would like someone to give me some sort of rationalization for how we can all acknowledge that the patriots were cheating, and people can discredit those championships since they haven't won one since they were caught, but we still hold bad games Peyton had against them. If we discredit the Pats winning because they were cheating, why not discredit poor performances against them for the same reason?
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Because people like to hate. One of those things is putting someone down the other is uplifting someone.
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Blaine Gabbart had a pretty good showing tonight
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Why is the NFL shield at the 50 yard line at Bank of America Stadium?someone change the subject
was wondering about this
The panthers owner had them put the sheild there to honor the NFL for giving Richardson a franchise.
The amount obscure **** I know.
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...and the fact that denver did not face an elite defense until the super bowl. according to your logic though, one guy was the sole reason for a superbowl blowout. the seahawks were the better team. its that simple.Let's not throw stones while we live in glass Super Bowls shall we.but the pats had 6 1st team all-pros (4 on offense and 2 on defense). not pro-bowlers, ALL-PROS.
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I thought it was understated how beat up both lines for Denver were.
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let's not get into injuries. if the pats had a healthy gronk and talib...
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franc did we do a sig or avy bet last year for the AFC champ game? we did right?
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let's not get into injuries. if the pats had a healthy gronk and talib...
Then you could still argue if Denver had their guys healthy they're still a better team.
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let's not get into injuries. if the pats had a healthy gronk and talib...
Then you could still argue if Denver had their guys healthy they're still a better team.
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that's the point, you can't play the injury game.
but since we started sort of...the caliber of players NE lost was more impactful IMO: wilfork, gronk, mayo, talib...that's pretty heavy
EDIT: can we count hernandez too? that dip**** really ****** us
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