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Cavs wouldn't trade for Amare because they valued JJ Hickson too much.Originally Posted by RKO2004
Amare said had the Cavs traded for him, if Bron wanted to stay then he would of stayed as well.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
It was well chronicled he tried to get Bosh to come to Cleveland and Bosh didn't want to go. In fact, nobody did. The only FA who said they would was Ariza, but Ariza's FA year was one yr prior to Summer of LeBron, so it wouldn't have made sense for him to do it then, not knowing if LeBron would stay more than a yr. Amare when asked, said he would consider it, yet he was actually the first person to sign his deal that offseason so seems doubtful. Plus you can tell he loves NY despite the losing.
I don't know how hard Bosh was courted but if you ask me, the plan was MIA since they had the cap room for all 3.
Originally Posted by KMante
RKO2004 wrote:
He did what he wanted as a free agent. He chose this path, it is what it is.
He and the Heat got their chip. He didn't want to be "The man". Takes a different kind of guy to do that. He's not "that" guy.
Me personally, I would of loved to see him stay and get a chip in Cleveland. Would of been much more rewarding.
Originally Posted by DoubleJs07
Cavs wouldn't trade for Amare because they valued JJ Hickson too much.Originally Posted by RKO2004
Amare said had the Cavs traded for him, if Bron wanted to stay then he would of stayed as well.Originally Posted by Scientific Method
It was well chronicled he tried to get Bosh to come to Cleveland and Bosh didn't want to go. In fact, nobody did. The only FA who said they would was Ariza, but Ariza's FA year was one yr prior to Summer of LeBron, so it wouldn't have made sense for him to do it then, not knowing if LeBron would stay more than a yr. Amare when asked, said he would consider it, yet he was actually the first person to sign his deal that offseason so seems doubtful. Plus you can tell he loves NY despite the losing.
I don't know how hard Bosh was courted but if you ask me, the plan was MIA since they had the cap room for all 3.
@ Lebron should have been more patient. Dude was there for 7 years. He put in his time and moved on. Compare it to the job you're currently in. If you reach the ceiling at your current employer, wouldn't you look for other opportunities elsewhere to work?
He actually did, and they gave him Antawn Jamison and Shaq out of his prime.Originally Posted by RKO2004
Never mind. We'll just appreciate LBJ in the NOW.
I like Lebron too guys, but I'm not going to ignore key events that happened over the years either.
Also I'm not dismissing the Cavs front office whatsoever. But if I'm Lebron, I go into the front office and DEMAND player A or B. Why he didn't do that. I don't know. Oh wait, maybe he did.
Exactly. I applaud both him and Bosh choosing their own destiny instead of being the usual pawns like a lot of athletes end up being. Was "The Decision" overboard?Originally Posted by MaxElite
Cleveland was never going to win one (let alone multiple) title with the direction that franchise was going.
The guy wrote his own destiny instead of waiting around for other people to do it for him.
People need to get over it.
Now are we sure he didn't want Ant? I wish someone on the inside would come out and say who wanted who and how the moves came about.Originally Posted by Peep Game
He actually did, and they gave him Antawn Jamison and Shaq out of his prime.Originally Posted by RKO2004
Never mind. We'll just appreciate LBJ in the NOW.
I like Lebron too guys, but I'm not going to ignore key events that happened over the years either.
Also I'm not dismissing the Cavs front office whatsoever. But if I'm Lebron, I go into the front office and DEMAND player A or B. Why he didn't do that. I don't know. Oh wait, maybe he did.
Originally Posted by Hyper
Changing teams wasn't the "wrong" choice, having The Decision special was.
Originally Posted by sooperhooper
If he wants to win that way, then fine. Me personally, I wouldn't want to join forces with another superstar/ all star, it hurts the competitive aspect of the game if you ask me. Just like MJ said "i would have never joined with Larry and Magic because those were the guys I was trying to beat.
sarcasm??Originally Posted by dreClark
All these years I been walking around thinking he went to the finals once w/ the Cavs and today I find out he went twice. Go figure. And that he is the same player he was then as he is now.Learn something new every
Originally Posted by dreClark
All these years I been walking around thinking he went to the finals once w/ the Cavs and today I find out he went twice. Go figure. And that he is the same player he was then as he is now.Learn something new every day
Isn't retiring to play another sport and leaving your team worse than leaving a team as a free agent? It's unreal how much stuff everyone, myself included, overlooks when it comes to MJ.Originally Posted by sooperhooper
If he wants to win that way, then fine. Me personally, I wouldn't want to join forces with another superstar/ all star, it hurts the competitive aspect of the game if you ask me. Just like MJ said "i would have never joined with Larry and Magic because those were the guys I was trying to beat.
Originally Posted by Air273
congrats lebron you only need another finals MVP winner to win your first ring
i mean 3 allstars on the same team 2 of which are starters and the other one has been a starter....you have to win or be known as a bunch of chokes
Originally Posted by Smedroc
sarcasm??Originally Posted by dreClark
All these years I been walking around thinking he went to the finals once w/ the Cavs and today I find out he went twice. Go figure. And that he is the same player he was then as he is now.Learn something new every
Originally Posted by Scientific Method
Originally Posted by sooperhooper
If he wants to win that way, then fine. Me personally, I wouldn't want to join forces with another superstar/ all star, it hurts the competitive aspect of the game if you ask me. Just like MJ said "i would have never joined with Larry and Magic because those were the guys I was trying to beat.
Bosh was never on that level anyways though in Toronto. People just pretend like he was so they can make that whole "3 superstars" complaint/argument.
And MJ wouldn't have had to becuase he already had Pippen (who came in 2nd in MVP voting the yr Mike played baseball and averaged 33ppg in a sweep of the Cavs), Dennis Rodman, Horace Grant, Ron Harper, MUCH more capable role players. LeBron took Eric Snow, Larry Hughes, Donyell Marshall, and Sasha Pavlovic to the finals.
The Decision wasOriginally Posted by 23ska909red02
How is this debatable?
Yes.
x infinity
7 years w/ CLE, his legacy was 'one of the most gifted talents the league has ever seen, but still in the company of all the other championshipless talents; sure, he's better than most of them, hell, all of them, but that's the table he sits at'
2 years w/ MIA, and his legacy... if it stopped RIGHT NOW... is one word: 'champion'.THAT'S the table he sits at now. You could add more words to narrow down the company he keeps; 'champion... Finals MVP... scoring champion... #1 pick... triple-double in the Finals', etc..., but that first word 'champion' absolutely makes t so that he made the right decision. He is NOT a champion right now if he stayed w/ the Cavs. No way, no how, wasn't happening.