NT gun owners, come on in and take a load off vol. Class III discussion

dathbgboy · Nov 21, 2009

I recently just found out that you can in fact own Class III weapons if you pass the initial background check and pay $200 per item to the ATF. Any of yallever done this or contemplate it? I admit after play MW2 I want some flashbangs

and maybe a silencer for good measure

al audi · Nov 21, 2009

SAY WORD ON EVERYTHING?????

never heard this in my life................

[h3]How to Own Class III Weapons
Basic Guidelines[/h3]Owning a class 3 weapon (machine gun / silencer) is relatively simple. There are several rules and regulations that individuals must comply with. They are very simple and one should not be intimidated by paperwork. First let me address a few questions, before you ask them.
You may only own a machine gun that was manufactured and registered with the BATF before May 19, 1986. Weapons manufactured after that date are restricted for Military and Law Enforcement use only. Economics 101, the law of supply and demand should start coming to mind by now. This is why these weapons are somewhat "pricey", when compared to current production weapons. "Simply", the reserves not being available, controlled commodities always make for an excellent investment. The price is only going one place, Up!

An individual purchasing a " National Firearms Act Weapon ", NFA weapon or class 3 weapon is required to pay a one time, $200 Federal Excise Tax fee. This fee has been the same, since 1934. It has never changed or has the simple requirement for owning a NFA weapon. These rules and regulation were set forth in 1934, because of the readily availability of machine guns to people like, Bonnie & Clyde, Dillinger, etc.. They permitted the Department of Justice to prosecute criminals under Federal Law. This had a little more "bite" than local laws.

To obtain an NFA weapon, you must first select one. The reason is, forms are required to transfer the weapon from seller to buyer, requiring specific information. There are several types of forms to accommodate these transfers. A form "3", accommodates dealer to dealer transfers (Class 3, in or out of state). A form "4", accommodates dealer to individual transfers, within the state. Unlicensed individuals may not transfer class 3 weapons directly into their state. An active Class 3 license is required to execute the transfer. If you hold an active standard FFL, you may transfer the weapon in directly, however the law enforcement signature, photographs, and fingerprint cards are still required, as well as the $200 FET. We will be happy to help you in the selection of a reputable Class 3 dealer in the state that you live in, however, the final decision will be yours.

The form "4" is quite simple. It will be filled out in duplicate by your Class 3 dealer, showing the current owner of the weapon and address, your name and address, description of the weapon and serial number, etc.. You will be given the forms, along with a set of fingerprint cards. On the back of the form is a place for your photograph and your local law enforcement official's signature. If you are transferring the NFA weapon to your corporation, this Law Enforcement signature is not required. See "Corporate Transfers" or contact us for more details.

The required signature may come from a multitude of sources. The Chief of Police, the Sheriff, District Attorney, a Federal judge, State Chief of Police, etc.. Typically the person signing this form "4", will conduct a background check on you, insuring that you are a person in good standing, within your community. If you have a criminal background or questionable past, you will be denied a signature at this point. In fact, even if you are a fine upstanding member of the community, you will find this part of the NFA weapon acquisition, the most difficult. Why? Most of the local law enforcement officials today, are no longer police officers, but unfortunately, appointed politicians. You will find that they typically do not sign such documents, with their eyes closed and will generally give a "no" response via a "clerk", when you call up like "Lever Action Bubba" screaming that he has to sign this form, so you can have your machine gun. The "no" answer is to slow down 99% of the individuals that just think they want a class 3 weapon. If you are dealing with a clerk and not him directly, this is what you deserve. However, there is the remaining 1%, that will do something intelligent, like make an appointment to talk about the signature, maybe have a cup of coffee, etc..

After you have obtained an official signature, return the forms along with your photographs (taped to the back), your fingerprint cards, and your check for $200, (payable to The Department of the Treasury) to your dealer. All of this information, along with the FET fee, will be forwarded to the BATF and they will begin the process of transferring the ownership of the weapon to your name or corporation. No, you don't give up all your rights at this point. It is the question that I get asked the most at this point. Search warrants are still required by law, these days, even for an individual that owns a class 3 weapon. These are "bubba" stories.

If you are really sincere about owning one of these very rare weapons, please feel free to contact us. We will show you how to legally obtain one. That is what we get paid for. All transactions are confidential, that is Federal Law!

Nick Tilotta

[email protected] or (817) 481-6616

dathbgboy · Nov 21, 2009

I was like

when I first peeped it. It started out as my search to see if it was illegal to own flashbangs, after that, the whole search took off til Iprinted out my form 4 to go over and read. If u wanna build your own class III items, then u need a form 1, crazy. And here I'm thinkin I could neverlegally own a suppressor

al audi · Nov 21, 2009

i feel as if its something.............they dont want me to know, but now i do...

kudos dude.

dathbgboy · Nov 21, 2009

They don't want us to know man, the man try oppress us

But I'm def gon look into this a lot more. Could care less about ownin a full-auto machinegun, just want the explosives and suppressor

wwsindicate · Nov 21, 2009

I was looking into this awhile back, don't know why but I randomly got the urge to own a blue camo mp5, silencer and a uav jammer

seajays · Nov 21, 2009

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

^^^^ ???? What u got a felony or suttin brah or live in NY?

redd spyder · Nov 22, 2009

i live in NYC and im underage(19) but I want a Concealed Carry License when im of age & I have read up but it says carry license aren't allowed inmanhatten but I live in the bronx so that has me thinking is it possible to get a CC license ?

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by REDd SPYDER

i live in NYC and im underage(19) but I want a Concealed Carry License when im of age & I have read up but it says carry license aren't allowed in manhatten but I live in the bronx so that has me thinking is it possible to get a CC license ?

NYC has some of the strictest gun laws I've ever seen. According to what I read, u can't even purchase a firearm w/o the proper licensingand obtaining that license is tough, in perspective, u have a better chance knockin off a model than gettin your CCW permit. I read that most are only issuedto important ppl who need them i.e. Don Imus, Attorneys, etc.

You being 19 doesn't help either. Minimum age is 21 for all types of licenses, hell u can't even own a shotgun w/o a license

htwn hitman · Nov 22, 2009

if you want the suppressor you CAN pay the fee BUT if its not legal in your state then it doesnt matter...no disrespect but none of that is a secret

htwn hitman · Nov 22, 2009

heres the site

http://www.gunreports.com/special_r...pressors-Silencers-Remington-BATFE1573-1.html

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by htwn hitman

if you want the suppressor you CAN pay the fee BUT if its not legal in your state then it doesnt matter...no disrespect but none of that is a secret

This I know, I checked before I even got my hopes up. PA and GA are good to go so I'm smooth. Same for u if htwn= Houston

The only hurdle would really be the local law enforcement signing off on it. U know how they be hatin

keepzdasneakz · Nov 22, 2009

before 1986, huh? So can anybody tell me if I can own an Israeli FAL with extended clips and an ACOG scope?

ridikuloz · Nov 22, 2009

some of you people spend too much time on video games....

bostonthreeparty · Nov 22, 2009

so, lemme get this straight. once im old enough i can buy a AR-15 and put a silencer wit say Red Dot Sight on it?

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

so, lemme get this straight. once im old enough i can buy a AR-15 and put a silencer wit say Red Dot Sight on it?

Yea "Roach"

pending ur local law enforcement chief/sheriff signs off on it

some of you people spend too much time on video games....

u right some ppl do. Me on the other hand, I've always wondered about suppressors since I purchased my XD a couple of yrs ago. Thoughtthat they were strictly prohibited until I googled last night/early mornin.

supremeape · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by BostonThreeParty

so, lemme get this straight. once im old enough i can buy a AR-15 and put a silencer wit say Red Dot Sight on it?

Play COD much

terroristtim · Nov 22, 2009

aight NT gun owners i got a few questions...I've been looking into getting a concealed weapons license but I'm not sure how exactly I get it...I'velooked online looked into the gun laws out here in connecicut and come to a conclusion I gotta go to the town hall? or police station? i understand I gotta geta permit and take classes what exactly do I gotta do...also what kinda guns should I look into that's reliable

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by TerroristTim

aight NT gun owners i got a few questions...I've been looking into getting a concealed weapons license but I'm not sure how exactly I get it...I've looked online looked into the gun laws out here in connecicut and come to a conclusion I gotta go to the town hall? or police station? i understand I gotta get a permit and take classes what exactly do I gotta do...also what kinda guns should I look into that's reliable

http://www.ct.gov/DPS/cwp....asp?a=2158&q=294502

Should explain everything you need to know.

As far as firearms. It all depends on what you want. Do u want somethin big, small, semi-auto, revolver, etc. Its all a matter of preference

keepzdasneakz · Nov 22, 2009

I want that G18 with FMJ.

terroristtim · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by Dathbgboy

Originally Posted by TerroristTim

aight NT gun owners i got a few questions...I've been looking into getting a concealed weapons license but I'm not sure how exactly I get it...I've looked online looked into the gun laws out here in connecicut and come to a conclusion I gotta go to the town hall? or police station? i understand I gotta get a permit and take classes what exactly do I gotta do...also what kinda guns should I look into that's reliable

Click to expand...

http://www.ct.gov/DPS/cwp....asp?a=2158&q=294502

Should explain everything you need to know.

As far as firearms. It all depends on what you want. Do u want somethin big, small, semi-auto, revolver, etc. Its all a matter of preference

I got that site bookmarked on my iPhone just needed a little more guidance...as for my needs in what I want I was looking into what will smith had in bad boys2....I never found out what kinda gun it was...either that or a glock

dathbgboy · Nov 22, 2009

Originally Posted by TerroristTim

Originally Posted by Dathbgboy

Originally Posted by TerroristTim

aight NT gun owners i got a few questions...I've been looking into getting a concealed weapons license but I'm not sure how exactly I get it...I've looked online looked into the gun laws out here in connecicut and come to a conclusion I gotta go to the town hall? or police station? i understand I gotta get a permit and take classes what exactly do I gotta do...also what kinda guns should I look into that's reliable

Click to expand...

http://www.ct.gov/DPS/cwp....asp?a=2158&q=294502

Should explain everything you need to know.

As far as firearms. It all depends on what you want. Do u want somethin big, small, semi-auto, revolver, etc. Its all a matter of preference

Click to expand...

I got that site bookmarked on my iPhone just needed a little more guidance...as for my needs in what I want I was looking into what will smith had in bad boys 2....I never found out what kinda gun it was...either that or a glock

There's really not much guidance besides the site and u actually going thru the process.

As far as the gun Will had in BB2, that is a Glock, G17 to be more specific. If you have small hands I would advise against it. My hands aint that big so Iopted against the Glock and purchased the Springfield XD .45acp instead. Thinner grip and just as good as the Glock, arguably better. Do some research on thegun you want, remember it is an invest and you aren't goin to drop $500+ on somethin u may not one later. I have no regrets on my purchase, however I didresearch and compare both brands a year prior to purchase.

cjmoney · Nov 22, 2009

LOL. $%* u gonna do with flashbangs? Use it on someone thats annoying you? toss it into the bathroom while they are on the can?

neighb0rh00d · Nov 22, 2009

i want a g36.