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[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by khoshabasfinest23

does anyone remember what the money line was on silva vs belfort? just curious

and i knew i shoulda done that 6 point teaser PIT +9 with Over 39

edit: whoops

Depends on the book.  On 5Dimes I believe it closed around Silva -250, Belfort +220


  

JCH3 wrote:

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There is no way I would feel comfortable enough to lay -290 on Jones. Don't get me wrong - I think he is going to win, I have a hard time taking odds like this on an MMA fight. Too much stuff can happen.   
Understandable.  A lot of my friends who aren't into sportsbetting are equally baffled when I talk to them about my MMA betting.  The way my partner and I break it down is by trying to analyze what we feel are the true odds and assign a percentage value to it.  For the Bader v. Jones fight, we reasonably expected Jones to win the fight ATLEAST 90% of the time (so would be -900 true odds).  The -290 line indicated that the books expected probability for Jones to win was closer to 74.3%.  Our 90% vs. books 74.3% means that there is a TON of real value at the stated prices (if we assume our analysis is not flawed, and since we bet with our money based on our analysis, we assume 100% of the time that it is not flawed).  Obviously the HUGE variable here is determining what we feel the true odds/probability should be.

TBH, I sometimes still struggle with it myself.  The biggest odds I've ever personally laid was on Machida v. Shogun 1.  I believe it was around -550 range.  I've had to reduce my betting amount and bankroll considerably since then, but that was a tough sweat.  Me and my partner had over a G on Machida at -550 range and once it went to the scorecards we thought we had just taken a significant hit to our bankroll.  Luckily Cecil Peoples bailed us out.  It basically comes down to a numbers game.  Some you win, some you lose.  We took a fairly tough loss on the Marquardt v. Sonnen fight where we laid -475 (i think) on Marquardt and he was completely dominated.  Obviously our analysis was waaaaaay off the mark on that one.

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by khoshabasfinest23

does anyone remember what the money line was on silva vs belfort? just curious

and i knew i shoulda done that 6 point teaser PIT +9 with Over 39

edit: whoops

Depends on the book.  On 5Dimes I believe it closed around Silva -250, Belfort +220


  

JCH3 wrote:

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There is no way I would feel comfortable enough to lay -290 on Jones. Don't get me wrong - I think he is going to win, I have a hard time taking odds like this on an MMA fight. Too much stuff can happen.   
Understandable.  A lot of my friends who aren't into sportsbetting are equally baffled when I talk to them about my MMA betting.  The way my partner and I break it down is by trying to analyze what we feel are the true odds and assign a percentage value to it.  For the Bader v. Jones fight, we reasonably expected Jones to win the fight ATLEAST 90% of the time (so would be -900 true odds).  The -290 line indicated that the books expected probability for Jones to win was closer to 74.3%.  Our 90% vs. books 74.3% means that there is a TON of real value at the stated prices (if we assume our analysis is not flawed, and since we bet with our money based on our analysis, we assume 100% of the time that it is not flawed).  Obviously the HUGE variable here is determining what we feel the true odds/probability should be.

TBH, I sometimes still struggle with it myself.  The biggest odds I've ever personally laid was on Machida v. Shogun 1.  I believe it was around -550 range.  I've had to reduce my betting amount and bankroll considerably since then, but that was a tough sweat.  Me and my partner had over a G on Machida at -550 range and once it went to the scorecards we thought we had just taken a significant hit to our bankroll.  Luckily Cecil Peoples bailed us out.  It basically comes down to a numbers game.  Some you win, some you lose.  We took a fairly tough loss on the Marquardt v. Sonnen fight where we laid -475 (i think) on Marquardt and he was completely dominated.  Obviously our analysis was waaaaaay off the mark on that one.

 

[kapstone]

Do most online sportsbooks post lines the day of? Ive only used Bodog and for bball its hard to bet because the lines post so late if at all

 

[kapstone]

Do most online sportsbooks post lines the day of? Ive only used Bodog and for bball its hard to bet because the lines post so late if at all

 

[jch3]

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by khoshabasfinest23

does anyone remember what the money line was on silva vs belfort? just curious

and i knew i shoulda done that 6 point teaser PIT +9 with Over 39

edit: whoops

Depends on the book.  On 5Dimes I believe it closed around Silva -250, Belfort +220


  

JCH3 wrote:

---

There is no way I would feel comfortable enough to lay -290 on Jones. Don't get me wrong - I think he is going to win, I have a hard time taking odds like this on an MMA fight. Too much stuff can happen.   

Understandable.  A lot of my friends who aren't into sportsbetting are equally baffled when I talk to them about my MMA betting.  The way my partner and I break it down is by trying to analyze what we feel are the true odds and assign a percentage value to it.  For the Bader v. Jones fight, we reasonably expected Jones to win the fight ATLEAST 90% of the time (so would be -900 true odds).  The -290 line indicated that the books expected probability for Jones to win was closer to 74.3%.  Our 90% vs. books 74.3% means that there is a TON of real value at the stated prices (if we assume our analysis is not flawed, and since we bet with our money based on our analysis, we assume 100% of the time that it is not flawed).  Obviously the HUGE variable here is determining what we feel the true odds/probability should be.

TBH, I sometimes still struggle with it myself.  The biggest odds I've ever personally laid was on Machida v. Shogun 1.  I believe it was around -550 range.  I've had to reduce my betting amount and bankroll considerably since then, but that was a tough sweat.  Me and my partner had over a G on Machida at -550 range and once it went to the scorecards we thought we had just taken a significant hit to our bankroll.  Luckily Cecil Peoples bailed us out.  It basically comes down to a numbers game.  Some you win, some you lose.  We took a fairly tough loss on the Marquardt v. Sonnen fight where we laid -475 (i think) on Marquardt and he was completely dominated.  Obviously our analysis was waaaaaay off the mark on that one.
Good explanation there. Makes a lot of sense.

 

[jch3]

Originally Posted by Mojodmonky1

Originally Posted by khoshabasfinest23

does anyone remember what the money line was on silva vs belfort? just curious

and i knew i shoulda done that 6 point teaser PIT +9 with Over 39

edit: whoops

Depends on the book.  On 5Dimes I believe it closed around Silva -250, Belfort +220


  

JCH3 wrote:

---

There is no way I would feel comfortable enough to lay -290 on Jones. Don't get me wrong - I think he is going to win, I have a hard time taking odds like this on an MMA fight. Too much stuff can happen.   

Understandable.  A lot of my friends who aren't into sportsbetting are equally baffled when I talk to them about my MMA betting.  The way my partner and I break it down is by trying to analyze what we feel are the true odds and assign a percentage value to it.  For the Bader v. Jones fight, we reasonably expected Jones to win the fight ATLEAST 90% of the time (so would be -900 true odds).  The -290 line indicated that the books expected probability for Jones to win was closer to 74.3%.  Our 90% vs. books 74.3% means that there is a TON of real value at the stated prices (if we assume our analysis is not flawed, and since we bet with our money based on our analysis, we assume 100% of the time that it is not flawed).  Obviously the HUGE variable here is determining what we feel the true odds/probability should be.

TBH, I sometimes still struggle with it myself.  The biggest odds I've ever personally laid was on Machida v. Shogun 1.  I believe it was around -550 range.  I've had to reduce my betting amount and bankroll considerably since then, but that was a tough sweat.  Me and my partner had over a G on Machida at -550 range and once it went to the scorecards we thought we had just taken a significant hit to our bankroll.  Luckily Cecil Peoples bailed us out.  It basically comes down to a numbers game.  Some you win, some you lose.  We took a fairly tough loss on the Marquardt v. Sonnen fight where we laid -475 (i think) on Marquardt and he was completely dominated.  Obviously our analysis was waaaaaay off the mark on that one.
Good explanation there. Makes a lot of sense.

 

[samb]

I had a 4 team parlay for $50 consisting of
Lakers -160
Phx +180
Utah -2.5
Bulls -2.5

Very dissapointed since Blazers took like 42 free throws in the game... No ways to win for Chicago. O well gonna take a break for a few weeks

 

[samb]

I had a 4 team parlay for $50 consisting of
Lakers -160
Phx +180
Utah -2.5
Bulls -2.5

Very dissapointed since Blazers took like 42 free throws in the game... No ways to win for Chicago. O well gonna take a break for a few weeks

 

[upandcoming32]

i Had 3 team parlay last night... Pittsburgh, Lakers and Celtics....Celtics fd me up

 

[upandcoming32]

i Had 3 team parlay last night... Pittsburgh, Lakers and Celtics....Celtics fd me up

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by SamB

I had a 4 team parlay for $50 consisting of
Lakers -160
Phx +180
Utah -2.5
Bulls -2.5

Very dissapointed since Blazers took like 42 free throws in the game... No ways to win for Chicago. O well gonna take a break for a few weeks

damn yall rollin with $50 parlays?  i know everyone has their own strategy, and we all have different bankrolls here, but that sounds rough.  For $50+ bets, I usually just stick with straight picks.  I might do a $50 2-teamer here and there, but for me, a $50 4-teamer is just $50 down the drain.  I have enough trouble finding 1 or 2 games a day that I feel pretty good about.  4 though?  not very likely at all.  

 

[mojodmonky1]

Originally Posted by SamB

I had a 4 team parlay for $50 consisting of
Lakers -160
Phx +180
Utah -2.5
Bulls -2.5

Very dissapointed since Blazers took like 42 free throws in the game... No ways to win for Chicago. O well gonna take a break for a few weeks

damn yall rollin with $50 parlays?  i know everyone has their own strategy, and we all have different bankrolls here, but that sounds rough.  For $50+ bets, I usually just stick with straight picks.  I might do a $50 2-teamer here and there, but for me, a $50 4-teamer is just $50 down the drain.  I have enough trouble finding 1 or 2 games a day that I feel pretty good about.  4 though?  not very likely at all.  

 

[lets get it 1231]

73242842-12/8/11 2:31pm$25.00$638.05Pending5 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 503 Los Angeles Clippers 1st Quarter +3 -110* vs Orlando Magic
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers 1st Quarter +3 -105* vs Miami Heat
Pending2/8/11 8:05pm NBA Basketball 509 Toronto Raptors 1st Quarter +2 -105* vs Milwaukee Bucks
Pending2/8/11 8:05pm NBA Basketball 512 Oklahoma City Thunder 1st Quarter -2 -110* vs Memphis Grizzlies
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington 1st Half Over 60½ -110*

5dimes baby!!!

 

[lets get it 1231]

73242842-12/8/11 2:31pm$25.00$638.05Pending5 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 503 Los Angeles Clippers 1st Quarter +3 -110* vs Orlando Magic
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers 1st Quarter +3 -105* vs Miami Heat
Pending2/8/11 8:05pm NBA Basketball 509 Toronto Raptors 1st Quarter +2 -105* vs Milwaukee Bucks
Pending2/8/11 8:05pm NBA Basketball 512 Oklahoma City Thunder 1st Quarter -2 -110* vs Memphis Grizzlies
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington 1st Half Over 60½ -110*

5dimes baby!!!

 

[uter zorker]

To the guy who asked about Pinnacle, that is one of the best sites in the world, but you cannot live in the US and use them

They offer the lowest vig though out there, that I know of

Matchbook.com is great vig wise, as you're trading with other people esentially

...for US players, I'll say two of the worst sites out there are Oddsmaker.com, Sportsbook.com and BoDog.com

Yeah, some people will get paid from those sites...but many do not, and they get dicked around by customer service quite frequently - you also have to wait forever to get paid, and like people have said - the lines aren't up right away, so if you bet basketball you're missing key numbers, or they may even have games "circled" where you can only bet a certain limit, and maybe not parlay.

You guys that are on sites like BoDog and Sportsbook now will eventually learn what it means to be on a much better site like Bookmaker, 5Dimes, Matchbook or TheGreek...it comes with time and we've all messed up by starting on sites such as Sportsbook (that's where I initially started 7 years ago

)

Bookmaker to my knowledge usually puts out all spreads first, TheGreek/5dimes are right behind them though, very close...and I believe this year 5dimes and Greek have put out the totals first for CBB games (Bookmaker was getting RAPED the last few years putting out totals first)

Easy deposits and easier cash outs matter to me too, and when they go hand in hand with the book releasing their spreads first - it's a no brainer


Yes, those books may ask for a lot of info - but that should make you feel comfortable in a way (while I can still understand why you'd be sketched out) - they are offering a service that many people in the world would love to take advantage of, they have to cover their +*%$+ any way that they can.

 

[uter zorker]

To the guy who asked about Pinnacle, that is one of the best sites in the world, but you cannot live in the US and use them

They offer the lowest vig though out there, that I know of

Matchbook.com is great vig wise, as you're trading with other people esentially

...for US players, I'll say two of the worst sites out there are Oddsmaker.com, Sportsbook.com and BoDog.com

Yeah, some people will get paid from those sites...but many do not, and they get dicked around by customer service quite frequently - you also have to wait forever to get paid, and like people have said - the lines aren't up right away, so if you bet basketball you're missing key numbers, or they may even have games "circled" where you can only bet a certain limit, and maybe not parlay.

You guys that are on sites like BoDog and Sportsbook now will eventually learn what it means to be on a much better site like Bookmaker, 5Dimes, Matchbook or TheGreek...it comes with time and we've all messed up by starting on sites such as Sportsbook (that's where I initially started 7 years ago

)

Bookmaker to my knowledge usually puts out all spreads first, TheGreek/5dimes are right behind them though, very close...and I believe this year 5dimes and Greek have put out the totals first for CBB games (Bookmaker was getting RAPED the last few years putting out totals first)

Easy deposits and easier cash outs matter to me too, and when they go hand in hand with the book releasing their spreads first - it's a no brainer


Yes, those books may ask for a lot of info - but that should make you feel comfortable in a way (while I can still understand why you'd be sketched out) - they are offering a service that many people in the world would love to take advantage of, they have to cover their +*%$+ any way that they can.

 

[samb]

I feel you on the parlays (which I do a little too much) but I've hit a good amount of them plus I felt very confident in my picks yesterday. Gonna stick to straight bets from now on only. I'll be back in march lolol...

Ps Spurs were -6.5 vs Pistons which looks good

 

[samb]

I feel you on the parlays (which I do a little too much) but I've hit a good amount of them plus I felt very confident in my picks yesterday. Gonna stick to straight bets from now on only. I'll be back in march lolol...

Ps Spurs were -6.5 vs Pistons which looks good

 

[lets get it 1231]

i use 5 dimes, withdrawals only take 2 days via bank transfer, plus a free withdrawal once a month on a monday

i love parlays, i do it for fun...most of my money goes to action reverse and str8 bets..

heres a 3teamer for today

73243742-12/8/11 3:00pm$50.00$300.00Pending3 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 504 Orlando Magic -9½ -110* vs Los Angeles Clippers
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers/Miami Heat Over 199 -110*
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington Over 131½ -110*

 

[lets get it 1231]

i use 5 dimes, withdrawals only take 2 days via bank transfer, plus a free withdrawal once a month on a monday

i love parlays, i do it for fun...most of my money goes to action reverse and str8 bets..

heres a 3teamer for today

73243742-12/8/11 3:00pm$50.00$300.00Pending3 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 504 Orlando Magic -9½ -110* vs Los Angeles Clippers
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers/Miami Heat Over 199 -110*
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington Over 131½ -110*

 

[ogmikey]

anyone use BetED.com before?

 

[ogmikey]

anyone use BetED.com before?

 

[gameovertripleh]

Originally Posted by Lets Get It 1231

i use 5 dimes, withdrawals only take 2 days via bank transfer, plus a free withdrawal once a month on a monday

i love parlays, i do it for fun...most of my money goes to action reverse and str8 bets..

heres a 3teamer for today

73243742-12/8/11 3:00pm$50.00$300.00Pending3 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 504 Orlando Magic -9½ -110* vs Los Angeles Clippers
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers/Miami Heat Over 199 -110*
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington Over 131½ -110*

nice parlay last night!  congrats!

 

[gameovertripleh]

Originally Posted by Lets Get It 1231

i use 5 dimes, withdrawals only take 2 days via bank transfer, plus a free withdrawal once a month on a monday

i love parlays, i do it for fun...most of my money goes to action reverse and str8 bets..

heres a 3teamer for today

73243742-12/8/11 3:00pm$50.00$300.00Pending3 Team Parlay
Pending2/8/11 7:05pm NBA Basketball 504 Orlando Magic -9½ -110* vs Los Angeles Clippers
Pending2/8/11 7:35pm NBA Basketball 507 Indiana Pacers/Miami Heat Over 199 -110*
Pending2/8/11 7:00pm College Basketball 523 George Mason/NC Wilmington Over 131½ -110*

nice parlay last night!  congrats!

 

[lokid40]

sorry, haven't read too much of this thread...but are there any legit sportsbooks where you can place your bets via iphone app or mobile site?
thanks!